If you boo you're ignorant. Stay classy and be shrewd. He's a good pick--don't listen to any naysayers son this one. Athletic 7-2 C with his skill come around NEVER. Take a hard look at Rudy Gobert for Utah. He was 7-2 215 for his Euro team at 20 and avg 8-5 Now he might be the best center in the nBA 2 years later. This is no chump--this is no Fred Weiss. This is an athletic Rik Smits an EXTREMELY hard piece to find.
Cant tell people how they should react. Personally i dont want to draft him at 4...ignorance isnt the reason
100% agree if ok4,towns,Russell are off the board ... We should draft kristap.. smits with 3 point range I like the athletic dirk comparison too .. He can really fly and he's a basketball junkie...
BRIGGS wrote:If you boo you're ignorant. Stay classy and be shrewd. He's a good pick--don't listen to any naysayers son this one. Athletic 7-2 C with his skill come around NEVER. Take a hard look at Rudy Gobert for Utah. He was 7-2 215 for his Euro team at 20 and avg 8-5 Now he might be the best center in the nBA 2 years later. This is no chump--this is no Fred Weiss. This is an athletic Rik Smits an EXTREMELY hard piece to find.
I'm sorry I just can't see it. He can shoot, he can move decent for his size... but I don't think he is gonna put on enough weight in the NBA and best case scenario a better shooting Bargnani with an okay post up game against smaller guys... but not worth the 4th pick. Definitely not a Dirk Nowitzki.
Even gobert played big in Europe...
NY would eat this kid alive. Let's just be honest. This city does not have the patience and never has had the patience to wait 2 to 3 years for this kid to develop. He'll have all kinds of pressure to perform being a 1st rd pick. He would be ruined by the pressure here. It's too much to ask IMO. I went back and looked at his workout video and he is so skinny. He's not ready now and who knows how long it will take for him to be ready.
FistOfOakley wrote:Even gobert played big in Europe...
He averaged 8 pts and 5 Rebs in a French league.
Over 3.5 blocks and 70% fg over 11 boards per 40...
i love the guys on here saying he isn't and won't be ready like they actually know that. i for one put my trust in actual scouts who have watched him play, as well as former nba players who have played with him and have good things to say about him.
i hope we draft him, just so i can see what nixluva has to say after his comments on this thread.
Going with 2 other fans BRIGGS. If Zinger is the pick, we will all cheer like crazy!
FistOfOakley wrote:Over 3.5 blocks and 70% fg over 11 boards per 40...
Also he is three months older than Towns and 4 months older than Okafor. Basically a soph?
I liked Gobert and wanted the Knicks to pick him. I thought physically he had unique potential. I think it is the same with Kristaps.
nyk4ever wrote:i love the guys on here saying he isn't and won't be ready like they actually know that. i for one put my trust in actual scouts who have watched him play, as well as former nba players who have played with him and have good things to say about him.i hope we draft him, just so i can see what nixluva has to say after his comments on this thread.
Nobody knows... You just have to go off what you know... And I know I've seen this story before.. Way before dirk.. Way before Darko... The story of the soft 7fter... And it always ends badly...
CrushAlot wrote:FistOfOakley wrote:Over 3.5 blocks and 70% fg over 11 boards per 40...
Also he is three months older than Towns and 4 months older than Okafor. Basically a soph?
I liked Gobert and wanted the Knicks to pick him. I thought physically he had unique potential. I think it is the same with Kristaps.
i get the same feeling about kristaps, but who knows really. i'll just never understand how people can pretend to know what a player is going to be when he's played overseas and they literally have NOTHING to go on - the same can be said for mudiay, you got guys here saying he won't be anything in the nba. based on what? atleast with college players, you can watch them and have an idea of what makes them tick, how they perform under pressure and maybe what kind of career they will have.
either way, im with briggs - let the scouts do their jobs and if we pick him, be happy. the international game has come a long way from the days of fredrick weis and just because you pick a foreign player, it doesn't mean they are going to be a skinny stiff with no game.
FistOfOakley wrote:nyk4ever wrote:i love the guys on here saying he isn't and won't be ready like they actually know that. i for one put my trust in actual scouts who have watched him play, as well as former nba players who have played with him and have good things to say about him.i hope we draft him, just so i can see what nixluva has to say after his comments on this thread.
Nobody knows... You just have to go off what you know... And I know I've seen this story before.. Way before dirk.. Way before Darko... The story of the soft 7fter... And it always ends badly...
basing it on long before dirk and long before darko is silly. the game of basketball has come a long way and the international players aren't just soft players anymore. this isn't to say that kristaps is going to be a good player or not, but just because he's foreign doesn't mean he's a soft 7footer with no skills.
FistOfOakley wrote:nyk4ever wrote:i love the guys on here saying he isn't and won't be ready like they actually know that. i for one put my trust in actual scouts who have watched him play, as well as former nba players who have played with him and have good things to say about him.i hope we draft him, just so i can see what nixluva has to say after his comments on this thread.
Nobody knows... You just have to go off what you know... And I know I've seen this story before.. Way before dirk.. Way before Darko... The story of the soft 7fter... And it always ends badly...
Who's scouting report is this from?
He needs to bulk up his upper body, in order to be able to withstand the extra physicality at the NBA level He has a mild demeanor, sometimes he appears to play with a reduced gear, lacking much competitive fire ... At times, his lack of a great feel for the game becomes apparent as he fails to recognize plays before they develop or doesn't finish off plays with enough aggression ...
Be happy with who ever the Knicks pick. Booing the pick only hurts the player not so much the organization. The last thing anyone should do is boo a player on his day of happiness.
nyk4ever wrote:FistOfOakley wrote:nyk4ever wrote:i love the guys on here saying he isn't and won't be ready like they actually know that. i for one put my trust in actual scouts who have watched him play, as well as former nba players who have played with him and have good things to say about him.i hope we draft him, just so i can see what nixluva has to say after his comments on this thread.
Nobody knows... You just have to go off what you know... And I know I've seen this story before.. Way before dirk.. Way before Darko... The story of the soft 7fter... And it always ends badly...
basing it on long before dirk and long before darko is silly. the game of basketball has come a long way and the international players aren't just soft players anymore. this isn't to say that kristaps is going to be a good player or not, but just because he's foreign doesn't mean he's a soft 7footer with no skills.
i was actually referring to the fact that the reason i don't like him is not because he's euro... it's because he's more danny ferry than say chris bosh...
nyk4ever wrote:i love the guys on here saying he isn't and won't be ready like they actually know that. i for one put my trust in actual scouts who have watched him play, as well as former nba players who have played with him and have good things to say about him.i hope we draft him, just so i can see what nixluva has to say after his comments on this thread.
Why don't you tell us what the scouts say about KrisP being ready right now or needing years to really be ready. From what i've seen of him and what a lot of scouts have said it will take some time for KrisP to develop. I could see him playing some 3 or stretch 4 but he's gonna need time to develop in order to be ready for the NBA level.
I think it would be extremely hard to put a kid like him in NY when he's so far away from ready. NY which is like a meat grinder could ruin his confidence. He needs a place were he can develop at his own pace.
nixluva wrote:nyk4ever wrote:i love the guys on here saying he isn't and won't be ready like they actually know that. i for one put my trust in actual scouts who have watched him play, as well as former nba players who have played with him and have good things to say about him.i hope we draft him, just so i can see what nixluva has to say after his comments on this thread.
Why don't you tell us what the scouts say about KrisP being ready right now or needing years to really be ready. From what i've seen of him and what a lot of scouts have said it will take some time for KrisP to develop. I could see him playing some 3 or stretch 4 but he's gonna need time to develop in order to be ready for the NBA level.
I think it would be extremely hard to put a kid like him in NY when he's so far away from ready. NY which is like a meat grinder could ruin his confidence. He needs a place were he can develop at his own pace.
every player needs time to develop, why are you only focusing on porzingis about this "time to develop"? guess what, we got a few years for him to develop because this team isn't going anywhere for a few years anyways.
just be honest, this is only because you want stein. it really has nothing to do with porzingis, it's all because you want stein.
It's too late. Knick fans are ignorant
nyk4ever wrote:CrushAlot wrote:FistOfOakley wrote:Over 3.5 blocks and 70% fg over 11 boards per 40...
Also he is three months older than Towns and 4 months older than Okafor. Basically a soph?
I liked Gobert and wanted the Knicks to pick him. I thought physically he had unique potential. I think it is the same with Kristaps.
i get the same feeling about kristaps, but who knows really. i'll just never understand how people can pretend to know what a player is going to be when he's played overseas and they literally have NOTHING to go on - the same can be said for mudiay, you got guys here saying he won't be anything in the nba. based on what? atleast with college players, you can watch them and have an idea of what makes them tick, how they perform under pressure and maybe what kind of career they will have.
either way, im with briggs - let the scouts do their jobs and if we pick him, be happy. the international game has come a long way from the days of fredrick weis and just because you pick a foreign player, it doesn't mean they are going to be a skinny stiff with no game.
yea the game has come a long way since even Darko & Bargnani
