Only 23 lets get him aasap
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I wonder why his win shares are low
Bonn1997 wrote:I wonder why his win shares are low
Good question but his ws/48 is pretty good considering he is a 22 y/o
yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:I wonder why his win shares are low
Good question but his ws/48 is pretty good considering he is a 22 y/o
but he has already played for 4 years. 
He's OK... Remember Wilson Chandler? Good player. You want to pay $15mm for him?
Way better star in the making at 6'9
IT called Tobias the best free agent available on NBATV.
BRIGGS wrote:IT called Tobias the best free agent available on NBATV.
LOL why?
Tobias is at 17ppg 6rpg at 22yr old. I saw a stat that only nine guys in the past twenty some odd years had put up those numbers by age 22.
I like Tobias, but I question his fit with Melo. And the Triangle.
crzymdups wrote:Tobias is at 17ppg 6rpg at 22yr old. I saw a stat that only nine guys in the past twenty some odd years had put up those numbers by age 22. I like Tobias, but I question his fit with Melo. And the Triangle.
don't look at the age, look at the number of years in the league (4).
I am sure that MANY MANY more than 9 guys put up those numbers by year 4.
mreinman wrote:crzymdups wrote:Tobias is at 17ppg 6rpg at 22yr old. I saw a stat that only nine guys in the past twenty some odd years had put up those numbers by age 22. I like Tobias, but I question his fit with Melo. And the Triangle.
don't look at the age, look at the number of years in the league (4).
I am sure that MANY MANY more than 9 guys put up those numbers by year 4.
yeah but at 22 dude got plenty of room to grow, whereas someone who comes into league at 22 and after 4 years is a 17/6 guy, it's not as impressive.
mreinman wrote:crzymdups wrote:Tobias is at 17ppg 6rpg at 22yr old. I saw a stat that only nine guys in the past twenty some odd years had put up those numbers by age 22. I like Tobias, but I question his fit with Melo. And the Triangle.
don't look at the age, look at the number of years in the league (4).
I am sure that MANY MANY more than 9 guys put up those numbers by year 4.
Maybe but those guys were in or approaching their physical prime. I'd gamble on Tobias any day but that's just me.
yellowboy90 wrote:mreinman wrote:crzymdups wrote:Tobias is at 17ppg 6rpg at 22yr old. I saw a stat that only nine guys in the past twenty some odd years had put up those numbers by age 22. I like Tobias, but I question his fit with Melo. And the Triangle.
don't look at the age, look at the number of years in the league (4).
I am sure that MANY MANY more than 9 guys put up those numbers by year 4.
Maybe but those guys were in or approaching their physical prime. I'd gamble on Tobias any day but that's just me.
I know you like him and I really do trust your opinion. I have not seen him much but the WS scares me. Would you pay him 13-15 million?
martin wrote:mreinman wrote:crzymdups wrote:Tobias is at 17ppg 6rpg at 22yr old. I saw a stat that only nine guys in the past twenty some odd years had put up those numbers by age 22. I like Tobias, but I question his fit with Melo. And the Triangle.
don't look at the age, look at the number of years in the league (4).
I am sure that MANY MANY more than 9 guys put up those numbers by year 4.
yeah but at 22 dude got plenty of room to grow, whereas someone who comes into league at 22 and after 4 years is a 17/6 guy, it's not as impressive.
maybe but do you think that players that come in younger have longer careers? Or is it mostly based on mileage?
And btw, Bargs was at 17/6 in year 4
mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:mreinman wrote:crzymdups wrote:Tobias is at 17ppg 6rpg at 22yr old. I saw a stat that only nine guys in the past twenty some odd years had put up those numbers by age 22. I like Tobias, but I question his fit with Melo. And the Triangle.
don't look at the age, look at the number of years in the league (4).
I am sure that MANY MANY more than 9 guys put up those numbers by year 4.
Maybe but those guys were in or approaching their physical prime. I'd gamble on Tobias any day but that's just me.
I know you like him and I really do trust your opinion. I have not seen him much but the WS scares me. Would you pay him 13-15 million?
Why look only at years in league and not also at age?
We can agree that he most likely will have better numbers in year 7 at age 25 than year 4 at age 22, right? The only debate is how much better.
mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:mreinman wrote:crzymdups wrote:Tobias is at 17ppg 6rpg at 22yr old. I saw a stat that only nine guys in the past twenty some odd years had put up those numbers by age 22. I like Tobias, but I question his fit with Melo. And the Triangle.
don't look at the age, look at the number of years in the league (4).
I am sure that MANY MANY more than 9 guys put up those numbers by year 4.
Maybe but those guys were in or approaching their physical prime. I'd gamble on Tobias any day but that's just me.
I know you like him and I really do trust your opinion. I have not seen him much but the WS scares me. Would you pay him 13-15 million?
Yes, I would based on the percentage of his salary towards the cap going forward and because I see improvement in his game.. I also think he would be a good fit going forward. I mean what's the down side?
yellowboy90 wrote:mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:mreinman wrote:crzymdups wrote:Tobias is at 17ppg 6rpg at 22yr old. I saw a stat that only nine guys in the past twenty some odd years had put up those numbers by age 22. I like Tobias, but I question his fit with Melo. And the Triangle.
don't look at the age, look at the number of years in the league (4).
I am sure that MANY MANY more than 9 guys put up those numbers by year 4.
Maybe but those guys were in or approaching their physical prime. I'd gamble on Tobias any day but that's just me.
I know you like him and I really do trust your opinion. I have not seen him much but the WS scares me. Would you pay him 13-15 million?
Yes, I would based on the percentage of his salary towards the cap going forward and because I see improvement in his game.. I also think he would be a good fit going forward. I mean what's the down side?
How much would you give him?