newyorker4ever wrote:nixluva wrote:$12-13mil isn't too much in this market. There is a bit of a fight over him now since he's the last of the somewhat better bigs left. It would still leave enough money to add another FA or 2 and then they'll use the Room Exception and Vet Minimums for the end of the bench guys.
Well it sounds like Phil wants P.Beverley pretty bad so what do you guys think he's worth?? Remember he's a RFA so Houston can match so we need to make it enough for them not to match but not too much that it's a bad signing by us.
If he does we shouldve drafted Justin Andersen.
newyorker4ever wrote:nixluva wrote:$12-13mil isn't too much in this market. There is a bit of a fight over him now since he's the last of the somewhat better bigs left. It would still leave enough money to add another FA or 2 and then they'll use the Room Exception and Vet Minimums for the end of the bench guys.
Well it sounds like Phil wants P.Beverley pretty bad so what do you guys think he's worth?? Remember he's a RFA so Houston can match so we need to make it enough for them not to match but not too much that it's a bad signing by us.
Not sure. I like Grant, and Gallo. I like Beverly but I think the Knicks have too many needs to chase him.
CrushAlot wrote:
Yeah, I'd rather focus on Kosta than spend that much on Lopez.
CrushAlot wrote:BRIGGS wrote:tmlfranco12 wrote:sorry - I think we could make do with Cole Aldrich & Jason Smith. Its not the money, its the amount of space on our cap that deal takes up.I'd rather suck, watch Toronto pick 1st than give that kind of contract out to Brooke's brother.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play...
actually Aldrich is a better shotblocker and rebounder than both of them per minute. His offense is right behind them overall his per minute production is the best. Now can he play 28 minutes every night? You could probably sign Aldrich for 3mm and that paves way to maybe signing Tobias Harris to a contract that Orlando would not match
If the Knicks could get Tobias that would probably be the smart move. Orlando's gm has said he will match but they are a frugal team and seem like they want to replace Tobias. If the contract was structured right I don't think they would match because I think they know Tobias wants to leave.
Yeah but offering Milsap 4 years and 80 million isn't what i'd call being frugal. I think they realized that they need some veteran help with all the young players they have but with them missing out on Milsap i think they'd match any Harris offer sheet but i guess there's no way to know unless it happens.
newyorker4ever wrote:CrushAlot wrote:BRIGGS wrote:tmlfranco12 wrote:sorry - I think we could make do with Cole Aldrich & Jason Smith. Its not the money, its the amount of space on our cap that deal takes up.I'd rather suck, watch Toronto pick 1st than give that kind of contract out to Brooke's brother.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play...
actually Aldrich is a better shotblocker and rebounder than both of them per minute. His offense is right behind them overall his per minute production is the best. Now can he play 28 minutes every night? You could probably sign Aldrich for 3mm and that paves way to maybe signing Tobias Harris to a contract that Orlando would not match
If the Knicks could get Tobias that would probably be the smart move. Orlando's gm has said he will match but they are a frugal team and seem like they want to replace Tobias. If the contract was structured right I don't think they would match because I think they know Tobias wants to leave.
Yeah but offering Milsap 4 years and 80 million isn't what i'd call being frugal. I think they realized that they need some veteran help with all the young players they have but with them missing out on Milsap i think they'd match any Harris offer sheet but i guess there's no way to know unless it happens.
I think Milsap would have replaced Tobias.
BRIGGS wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:nixluva wrote:$12-13mil isn't too much in this market. There is a bit of a fight over him now since he's the last of the somewhat better bigs left. It would still leave enough money to add another FA or 2 and then they'll use the Room Exception and Vet Minimums for the end of the bench guys.
Well it sounds like Phil wants P.Beverley pretty bad so what do you guys think he's worth?? Remember he's a RFA so Houston can match so we need to make it enough for them not to match but not too much that it's a bad signing by us.
If he does we shouldve drafted Justin Andersen.
Oh my goodness Briggs are you gonna mention we should of drafted Anderson over Grant in every thread now cause i just saw you say this in another thread??
newyorker4ever wrote:BRIGGS wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:nixluva wrote:$12-13mil isn't too much in this market. There is a bit of a fight over him now since he's the last of the somewhat better bigs left. It would still leave enough money to add another FA or 2 and then they'll use the Room Exception and Vet Minimums for the end of the bench guys.
Well it sounds like Phil wants P.Beverley pretty bad so what do you guys think he's worth?? Remember he's a RFA so Houston can match so we need to make it enough for them not to match but not too much that it's a bad signing by us.
If he does we shouldve drafted Justin Andersen.
Oh my goodness Briggs are you gonna mention we should of drafted Anderson over Grant in every thread now cause i just saw you say this in another thread??
haha im surprised he hasnt mentioned kaminsky
BigDaddyG wrote:CrushAlot wrote:
Yeah, I'd rather focus on Kosta than spend that much on Lopez.
Kosta is good but also he's been killed by being behind Gasol. It's making him look like he can't be a starter. The Knicks could still go after him if they wanted, so maybe they will.
CrushAlot wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:nixluva wrote:$12-13mil isn't too much in this market. There is a bit of a fight over him now since he's the last of the somewhat better bigs left. It would still leave enough money to add another FA or 2 and then they'll use the Room Exception and Vet Minimums for the end of the bench guys.
Well it sounds like Phil wants P.Beverley pretty bad so what do you guys think he's worth?? Remember he's a RFA so Houston can match so we need to make it enough for them not to match but not too much that it's a bad signing by us.
Not sure. I like Grant, and Gallo. I like Beverly but I think the Knicks have too many needs to chase him.
Yeah i'm with you about thinking we have the players to play the 1 and 2 but i keep seeing rumors of Phil wanting Beverley. I do love his defense and he can hit the 3 ball so i'm wondering if Phil is thinking about using the stretch provision on Calderon and Beverley can be a combo guard.
CrushAlot wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:CrushAlot wrote:BRIGGS wrote:tmlfranco12 wrote:sorry - I think we could make do with Cole Aldrich & Jason Smith. Its not the money, its the amount of space on our cap that deal takes up.I'd rather suck, watch Toronto pick 1st than give that kind of contract out to Brooke's brother.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play...
actually Aldrich is a better shotblocker and rebounder than both of them per minute. His offense is right behind them overall his per minute production is the best. Now can he play 28 minutes every night? You could probably sign Aldrich for 3mm and that paves way to maybe signing Tobias Harris to a contract that Orlando would not match
If the Knicks could get Tobias that would probably be the smart move. Orlando's gm has said he will match but they are a frugal team and seem like they want to replace Tobias. If the contract was structured right I don't think they would match because I think they know Tobias wants to leave.
Yeah but offering Milsap 4 years and 80 million isn't what i'd call being frugal. I think they realized that they need some veteran help with all the young players they have but with them missing out on Milsap i think they'd match any Harris offer sheet but i guess there's no way to know unless it happens.
I think Milsap would have replaced Tobias.
Yes that's what i'm saying.
The cap is going up so we have to get used to the new normal. Having said that its not too pricey. Porzingis is going to get most of the touches in the frontcourt, eventually. Lopez would be a good complimentary player who will help with our lack of defense in the paint.
GustavBahler wrote:The cap is going up so we have to get used to the new normal. Having said that its not too pricey. Porzingis is going to get most of the touches in the frontcourt, eventually. Lopez would be a good complimentary player who will help with our lack of defense in the paint.
cap rising or not i still feel it is too much and i like lopez. Also i wouldnt expect porzingis to do much his rookie year. Probaly will play sparingly the first year
I think Robin Lopez is a very good fit with the Knicks. I'm not in love with 12-13 MM per. If it were 10 MM per, it would be a lot more palatable. But maybe it's only a few years. Add a few low salary pieces and we might have a team next year.
If Lopez can take a 7-9mm 2-3 year deal..fine.
franco12 wrote:sorry - I think we could make do with Cole Aldrich & Jason Smith. Its not the money, its the amount of space on our cap that deal takes up.I'd rather suck, watch Toronto pick 1st than give that kind of contract out to Brooke's brother.
Totally agree. Although I think Smith played himself into a few offers. Amundson/Cole are pretty cheap alternatives. Hate the Typical fascination with free agents. Cant take just the positive allure of other teams players and ignore the reason they were let go. This smells like an expensive Dalembert mistake.
TPercy wrote:If Lopez can take a 7-9mm 2-3 year deal..fine.
yeah i agree. I dont think he has done enough to earn 13 million. Hell afflalo has a better track record and he is getting 8 per year
StarksEwing1 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:The cap is going up so we have to get used to the new normal. Having said that its not too pricey. Porzingis is going to get most of the touches in the frontcourt, eventually. Lopez would be a good complimentary player who will help with our lack of defense in the paint.
cap rising or not i still feel it is too much and i like lopez. Also i wouldnt expect porzingis to do much his rookie year. Probaly will play sparingly the first year
I don't know if that's the plan for KP. I think they want him to play a lot and get as much experience as possible. No different than any other Top 10 Rookie.
The contract for Lopez is pretty much what you would expect given the money others have gotten and he's a Center which is usually gonna carry a premium. It's only about 2 mil more than you'd expect he would get. Many other players got way more than you would think they should get in this FA Market.
nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:The cap is going up so we have to get used to the new normal. Having said that its not too pricey. Porzingis is going to get most of the touches in the frontcourt, eventually. Lopez would be a good complimentary player who will help with our lack of defense in the paint.
cap rising or not i still feel it is too much and i like lopez. Also i wouldnt expect porzingis to do much his rookie year. Probaly will play sparingly the first year
I don't know if that's the plan for KP. I think they want him to play a lot and get as much experience as possible. No different than any other Top 10 Rookie.The contract for Lopez is pretty much what you would expect given the money others have gotten and he's a Center which is usually gonna carry a premium. It's only about 2 mil more than you'd expect he would get. Many other players got way more than you would think they should get in this FA Market.
thanks phil
StarksEwing1 wrote:TPercy wrote:If Lopez can take a 7-9mm 2-3 year deal..fine.
yeah i agree. I dont think he has done enough to earn 13 million. Hell afflalo has a better track record and he is getting 8 per year
Yup him taking a 3 year 27m contract would be great. It would leave is with 10m
We sign Lou to vet min as well as some other D League promising big.
Get Shved for two miilion and Cole for 5 million.
Hopefully have around 5 million left over to get a decent PF like Bejinca.
TPercy wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:TPercy wrote:If Lopez can take a 7-9mm 2-3 year deal..fine.
yeah i agree. I dont think he has done enough to earn 13 million. Hell afflalo has a better track record and he is getting 8 per year
Yup him taking a 3 year 27m contract would be great. It would leave is with 10m
We sign Lou to vet min as well as some other D League promising big.
Get Shved for two miilion and Cole for 5 million.
Hopefully have around 5 million left over to get a decent PF like Bejinca.
i just wish can get rid of calderons contract. Im sure phil is kicking himself for that move.
StarksEwing1 wrote:TPercy wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:TPercy wrote:If Lopez can take a 7-9mm 2-3 year deal..fine.
yeah i agree. I dont think he has done enough to earn 13 million. Hell afflalo has a better track record and he is getting 8 per year
Yup him taking a 3 year 27m contract would be great. It would leave is with 10m
We sign Lou to vet min as well as some other D League promising big.
Get Shved for two miilion and Cole for 5 million.
Hopefully have around 5 million left over to get a decent PF like Bejinca.
i just wish can get rid of calderons contract. Im sure phil is kicking himself for that move.
I don't know. I think if he landed Monroe Calderon's shooting would have been quite a weapon.
