holfresh wrote:NYY1NYK2 wrote:technomaster wrote:Duhon was a pretty respectable player - maybe not worthy of being a full time starter, but solid.
Galloway is going to be a 10 year pro. Maybe he'll even be a $40m contract player. I wouldn't say someone like Danny Green ($45m, 4 years) or Shumpert ($40m, 4 years) are any better.Just saying.
But back to Ndour. Wow. We probably just saw the game of his career - shows that he's clutch. Balkman on steroids, Faried, maybe Shawn Marion upside. The disruptive capability of a young Worm. Team mentality.
I think he can capably fill in what Q Acy showed us last year, probably with more upside. Acy's problem (and a challenge with his sort of game) is that he runs a fairly high risk of being injured every minute he's on the floor.
Shumpert is counting his lucky stars. cavs will regret that contract
Gerald green is better than shump...but im not a GM
Ndour is more of a faried, if he can make that midrange like clockwork,he'll be really good
Think of haslem a few yrs back....
Defense got the Cavs to the Finals..They completely shut down ATL to get to the Finals..Perimeter defenders are invaluable in today's game..Resigning Shump was a no brainer...
no brainer? not sure about that. Tough call at best.
You had to fall in love with the guy after he blocked OK4's shot, and then came down to the other end, and with OK4 guarding him did a jab/step back move and finished with a 15 foot jumper. If that had been a sequence in a playoff game in the Garden the roof would have blown off.
My hope is that he and Phil have an agreement where he plays overseas, and is brought back next year. Phil and Ndour's agent seem to be on good terms, and Ndour has some NY roots.
If other teams come into play with offers you have to sign him and deal with the roster consequences or imbalance.
My working hypothesis is that Gaines, who probably scouted him at Portsmouth, has convinced Jackson that Ndour will someday be our version of Rodman. Maybe they've convinced Ndour, too.
If he plays overseas and comes back next year with Hernangomez, it will be like we had two #1s in next year's draft. They will replace Thomas and Amundson, most likely.
Once again, by the way, you are seeing Phil looking to bring into the fold a kid who seems to be a high character person and player, with an international background, a solid family structure, and a lot of intelligence. You also had to be impressed with the modest interview he gave after the game, yesterday.
Also read on RealGM that he might be a vegetarian. This alone makes him a "must have" for me.
Where was shump in the finals? a 3pter here, maybe one there.......but went missing along with his buddy JR
Go ahead look up the stats, they are pathetic
5ppg, .5ast, 3.2 rebs
You tell me if thats worth 10MIL per/4yrs
And if your argument is his defense....he dint exactly stop anyone
WaltLongmire wrote:You had to fall in love with the guy after he blocked OK4's shot, and then came down to the other end, and with OK4 guarding him did a jab/step back move and finished with a 15 foot jumper. If that had been a sequence in a playoff game in the Garden the roof would have blown off.My hope is that he and Phil have an agreement where he plays overseas, and is brought back next year. Phil and Ndour's agent seem to be on good terms, and Ndour has some NY roots.
If other teams come into play with offers you have to sign him and deal with the roster consequences or imbalance.
My working hypothesis is that Gaines, who probably scouted him at Portsmouth, has convinced Jackson that Ndour will someday be our version of Rodman. Maybe they've convinced Ndour, too.
If he plays overseas and comes back next year with Hernangomez, it will be like we had two #1s in next year's draft. They will replace Thomas and Amundson, most likely.
Once again, by the way, you are seeing Phil looking to bring into the fold a kid who seems to be a high character person and player, with an international background, a solid family structure, and a lot of intelligence. You also had to be impressed with the modest interview he gave after the game, yesterday.
Also read on RealGM that he might be a vegetarian. This alone makes him a "must have" for me.
I was going nuts in my living room. My thing is this yr hes our little secret. Next year everyone can make a jump at him
NDour is a perfect fit IMO. He's got that energy we need. He's got skill, BB IQ and nice long athletic body. What's not to like?
He's a better more athletic version of Aminu. Also reminds me of Jordan Mickey but has a better shot.
holfresh wrote:NYY1NYK2 wrote:technomaster wrote:Duhon was a pretty respectable player - maybe not worthy of being a full time starter, but solid.
Galloway is going to be a 10 year pro. Maybe he'll even be a $40m contract player. I wouldn't say someone like Danny Green ($45m, 4 years) or Shumpert ($40m, 4 years) are any better.Just saying.
But back to Ndour. Wow. We probably just saw the game of his career - shows that he's clutch. Balkman on steroids, Faried, maybe Shawn Marion upside. The disruptive capability of a young Worm. Team mentality.
I think he can capably fill in what Q Acy showed us last year, probably with more upside. Acy's problem (and a challenge with his sort of game) is that he runs a fairly high risk of being injured every minute he's on the floor.
Shumpert is counting his lucky stars. cavs will regret that contract
Gerald green is better than shump...but im not a GM
Ndour is more of a faried, if he can make that midrange like clockwork,he'll be really good
Think of haslem a few yrs back....
Defense got the Cavs to the Finals..They completely shut down ATL to get to the Finals..Perimeter defenders are invaluable in today's game..Resigning Shump was a no brainer...
Resigning him was a good move, At that number, stupid move
WaltLongmire wrote:You had to fall in love with the guy after he blocked OK4's shot, and then came down to the other end, and with OK4 guarding him did a jab/step back move and finished with a 15 foot jumper. If that had been a sequence in a playoff game in the Garden the roof would have blown off.My hope is that he and Phil have an agreement where he plays overseas, and is brought back next year. Phil and Ndour's agent seem to be on good terms, and Ndour has some NY roots.
If other teams come into play with offers you have to sign him and deal with the roster consequences or imbalance.
My working hypothesis is that Gaines, who probably scouted him at Portsmouth, has convinced Jackson that Ndour will someday be our version of Rodman. Maybe they've convinced Ndour, too.
If he plays overseas and comes back next year with Hernangomez, it will be like we had two #1s in next year's draft. They will replace Thomas and Amundson, most likely.
Once again, by the way, you are seeing Phil looking to bring into the fold a kid who seems to be a high character person and player, with an international background, a solid family structure, and a lot of intelligence. You also had to be impressed with the modest interview he gave after the game, yesterday.
Also read on RealGM that he might be a vegetarian. This alone makes him a "must have" for me.
The kid is looking ready now, no reason to let him go overseas. I think the whole overseas thing is all about that he isn't going to play in the D-League and has offers to play overseas. I didn't read where he had signed any overseas offers, just that he wasn't going to play in the D-League. I think he is showing NBA talent, and not just in one game, he has gotten progressively better with each game. But if you don't sign the kid on talent and potential alone, he looks to be another character guy and he lives in Rochester.
I like NDour, I like him as an addition to our frontcourt, he fits the identity that we are developing with tough defensive guys Kris/RoLo/KOQ/NDour, we have an identity forming now. I love it, we have a clearer vision of what it is that we want to do and everyone knows their role.
sign him and waive amudson
mreinman wrote:crzymdups wrote:NYY1NYK2 wrote:meloanyk wrote:Always wary of SL stars vs comp but appears to have skillset that translates to NBA . First offer Camp invite and sign/ tie him up one way or another. If he's slated for Europe then make sure we have his rights. If we cant do that then Id be in favor of bringing him rather than some other ancillary piece. Kid brings energy, hops, D, personality and has a J that isnt a surprise if you look at his college tapes. He's a 3/4
More of a 4. can play 5 if we go small like GS did with green
I see Ndour as a young Kurt Thomas - I think he can play a lot of undersized 5. As our third string center, I don't think he'd need to, but I think it is possible.
I don't see KT at all. This guy is an athlete.
I compared him to KT wallets s well but only because of the height. His reach and hops will far surpass KT. Question is will he be able to hold his position in the paint as well add KT did?
holfresh wrote:NYY1NYK2 wrote:technomaster wrote:Duhon was a pretty respectable player - maybe not worthy of being a full time starter, but solid.
Galloway is going to be a 10 year pro. Maybe he'll even be a $40m contract player. I wouldn't say someone like Danny Green ($45m, 4 years) or Shumpert ($40m, 4 years) are any better.Just saying.
But back to Ndour. Wow. We probably just saw the game of his career - shows that he's clutch. Balkman on steroids, Faried, maybe Shawn Marion upside. The disruptive capability of a young Worm. Team mentality.
I think he can capably fill in what Q Acy showed us last year, probably with more upside. Acy's problem (and a challenge with his sort of game) is that he runs a fairly high risk of being injured every minute he's on the floor.
Shumpert is counting his lucky stars. cavs will regret that contract
Gerald green is better than shump...but im not a GM
Ndour is more of a faried, if he can make that midrange like clockwork,he'll be really good
Think of haslem a few yrs back....
Defense got the Cavs to the Finals..They completely shut down ATL to get to the Finals..Perimeter defenders are invaluable in today's game..Resigning Shump was a no brainer...
Resigning Shump at that contract shows they have no brains.
wh4t wrote:sign him and waive amudson
This was th r first thing that came to mind when i was thinking on how wecould fit him here. Except it was thomas and not amundson however, I then thought that it wouldn't be a very professional thing to do. Give an Nba journeyman a spot on this team and giving them a decent role for the team making the client very happy only to be waived?
TPercy wrote:wh4t wrote:sign him and waive amudson
This was th r first thing that came to mind when i was thinking on how wecould fit him here. Except it was thomas and not amundson however, I then thought that it wouldn't be a very professional thing to do. Give an Nba journeyman a spot on this team and giving them a decent role for the team making the client very happy only to be waived?
well ... we had no choice. We needed to lock those guys up cause Cuban was driving around manhattan looking for them.
He may not be ready to help, but it's a good idea to lock him up while we can.
meloshouldgo wrote:mreinman wrote:crzymdups wrote:NYY1NYK2 wrote:meloanyk wrote:Always wary of SL stars vs comp but appears to have skillset that translates to NBA . First offer Camp invite and sign/ tie him up one way or another. If he's slated for Europe then make sure we have his rights. If we cant do that then Id be in favor of bringing him rather than some other ancillary piece. Kid brings energy, hops, D, personality and has a J that isnt a surprise if you look at his college tapes. He's a 3/4
More of a 4. can play 5 if we go small like GS did with green
I see Ndour as a young Kurt Thomas - I think he can play a lot of undersized 5. As our third string center, I don't think he'd need to, but I think it is possible.
I don't see KT at all. This guy is an athlete.
I compared him to KT wallets s well but only because of the height. His reach and hops will far surpass KT. Question is will he be able to hold his position in the paint as well add KT did?
KT40 was incredible in college. I believe he was the only d1 player in history at the time to lead the nation in scoring and rebounding in the same year.
Two broken ankles later and you had the ground bound skilled role playing Kt40 on the Knicks we knew and loved. (In his rookie year I thought Miami and my fantasy league team had picked up the next Karl Malone)
I'm psyched by watching Ndour. Runs the floor with power. A power 3. Maybe he's more Anthony Bonner than Faried. Depends on how he develops and evolves.
TPercy wrote:wh4t wrote:sign him and waive amudson
This was th r first thing that came to mind when i was thinking on how wecould fit him here. Except it was thomas and not amundson however, I then thought that it wouldn't be a very professional thing to do. Give an Nba journeyman a spot on this team and giving them a decent role for the team making the client very happy only to be waived?
Travis Outlaw was waived last season for Travis Wear. The same can happen to Lou Amundson if Maurice Ndour is invited and outplays him. Can save the Knicks some money
sign him to the D league.
folks this is the SUMMER league. several players are going to look good or bad.
callmened wrote:sign him to the D league. folks this is the SUMMER league. several players are going to look good or bad.
If he's not signed by the knicks anyone can sign him
technomaster wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:mreinman wrote:crzymdups wrote:NYY1NYK2 wrote:meloanyk wrote:Always wary of SL stars vs comp but appears to have skillset that translates to NBA . First offer Camp invite and sign/ tie him up one way or another. If he's slated for Europe then make sure we have his rights. If we cant do that then Id be in favor of bringing him rather than some other ancillary piece. Kid brings energy, hops, D, personality and has a J that isnt a surprise if you look at his college tapes. He's a 3/4
More of a 4. can play 5 if we go small like GS did with green
I see Ndour as a young Kurt Thomas - I think he can play a lot of undersized 5. As our third string center, I don't think he'd need to, but I think it is possible.
I don't see KT at all. This guy is an athlete.
I compared him to KT wallets s well but only because of the height. His reach and hops will far surpass KT. Question is will he be able to hold his position in the paint as well add KT did?
KT40 was incredible in college. I believe he was the only d1 player in history at the time to lead the nation in scoring and rebounding in the same year.
Two broken ankles later and you had the ground bound skilled role playing Kt40 on the Knicks we knew and loved. (In his rookie year I thought Miami and my fantasy league team had picked up the next Karl Malone)
I'm psyched by watching Ndour. Runs the floor with power. A power 3. Maybe he's more Anthony Bonner than Faried. Depends on how he develops and evolves.
Not true. There were 3 people that did that- led the NCAA in scoring and rebounding in the same year. Xman, Hank Gathers and KT
WaltLongmire wrote:You had to fall in love with the guy after he blocked OK4's shot, and then came down to the other end, and with OK4 guarding him did a jab/step back move and finished with a 15 foot jumper. If that had been a sequence in a playoff game in the Garden the roof would have blown off.My hope is that he and Phil have an agreement where he plays overseas, and is brought back next year. Phil and Ndour's agent seem to be on good terms, and Ndour has some NY roots.
If other teams come into play with offers you have to sign him and deal with the roster consequences or imbalance.
My working hypothesis is that Gaines, who probably scouted him at Portsmouth, has convinced Jackson that Ndour will someday be our version of Rodman. Maybe they've convinced Ndour, too.
If he plays overseas and comes back next year with Hernangomez, it will be like we had two #1s in next year's draft. They will replace Thomas and Amundson, most likely.
Once again, by the way, you are seeing Phil looking to bring into the fold a kid who seems to be a high character person and player, with an international background, a solid family structure, and a lot of intelligence. You also had to be impressed with the modest interview he gave after the game, yesterday.
Also read on RealGM that he might be a vegetarian. This alone makes him a "must have" for me.
Good post. But I want to lock him up this year. He's ready now.
