Bleacher report had this quote. Lowe was speculating about trades for Morris and said the Knicks had nothing to give up for him. Here is the actual quote from the Grantland article,
Indiana probably doesn’t want another “problem” personality, and the Pacers don’t have much beyond a lowball offer without attaching a first-rounder. Morris would open up the floor a bit in Washington. He’d eat into the Wizards’ Kevin Durant cap room, but they could move him in a pinch after the season. The Kings and Knicks should take a look, even though neither has movable assets that would interest Phoenix — unless the Knicks are ready to engage in Carmelo Anthony trade talks. (They’re not there, yet. But they’re getting closer.)
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-cu...
Nothing will happen before ASB.
Everybody need to get a feel of what is going on including Melo himself.
Were his game is after surgery? What Knicks roster is made of?
How ruks will fire?
Melo is the one to look at all this and if he decided to move on then his agent will need to approach teams he is interested in and ask what they think about it.
Then if somebody will bite go back to Phil and start bargaining.
There is nothing Knicks organization need to do about it.
CrushAlot wrote:Bleacher report had this quote. Lowe was speculating about trades for Morris and said the Knicks had nothing to give up for him. Here is the actual quote from the Grantland article,
Indiana probably doesn’t want another “problem” personality, and the Pacers don’t have much beyond a lowball offer without attaching a first-rounder. Morris would open up the floor a bit in Washington. He’d eat into the Wizards’ Kevin Durant cap room, but they could move him in a pinch after the season. The Kings and Knicks should take a look, even though neither has movable assets that would interest Phoenix — unless the Knicks are ready to engage in Carmelo Anthony trade talks. (They’re not there, yet. But they’re getting closer.)
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-cu...
The Suns are the natural trading partner as they have a SF replacement---Morris and other pieces(drafted picks) that make a trade possible. Why would this guy say this without some kind of prompting from someone on the Knicks---Zach is not a bad reporter.
BRIGGS wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Bleacher report had this quote. Lowe was speculating about trades for Morris and said the Knicks had nothing to give up for him. Here is the actual quote from the Grantland article,
Indiana probably doesn’t want another “problem” personality, and the Pacers don’t have much beyond a lowball offer without attaching a first-rounder. Morris would open up the floor a bit in Washington. He’d eat into the Wizards’ Kevin Durant cap room, but they could move him in a pinch after the season. The Kings and Knicks should take a look, even though neither has movable assets that would interest Phoenix — unless the Knicks are ready to engage in Carmelo Anthony trade talks. (They’re not there, yet. But they’re getting closer.)
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-cu...
The Suns are the natural trading partner as they have a SF replacement---Morris and other pieces(drafted picks) that make a trade possible. Why would this guy say this without some kind of prompting from someone on the Knicks---Zach is not a bad reporter.
I don't know why he would say it but he didn't even say my sources ... I think it was just a flippant comment. Similar to when Berman says something off base and it ends up on wiretap and on nbcbasketball, I don't think there is anything to it.
Open to trading Melo but not for a bench full of role players. Dont care how many they throw at Phil. Want top 15 talent coming back or very close and pick(s).
I could see Melo being ok with Clippers, Miami, Chicago, Nets or Cleveland..Maybe Houston..Phoenix, Boston, no...
From KEN BERGER at CBS...
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-......Recent speculation suggested that the Suns, amid all this Morris drama, would be wise to take a look at a deal for Anthony, and that the Knicks are "getting closer" to exploring trade options for their frachise player.Is there any truth to this?
As of now, absolutely not.
For starters, before Anthony, an eight-time All-Star, could be traded, two things would have to happen: 1) Knicks president Phil Jackson and GM Steve Mills would have to have a conversation about it; and 2) with a no-trade clause, Anthony would have to agree to it -- and dictate the team and the terms.
On count one, the parties are not guilty; a person with direct knowledge of the Knicks' front-office discussions told CBS Sports Thursday that Jackson and Mills have not so much as had a discussion about trading Anthony -- no matter how much Peyote may or may not have been in the air.
After that, count two becomes a moot point, but either way Anthony's no-trade clause is merely one of many factors that would make trading the $124 million man problematic, to say the least.
It is strange that Lowe mentions it, but he just seemed to be cycling through possible destinations for Morris.
There's gotta be picks involved especially first rounders.
If there's no draft picks in any Melo trade, nix it. Gotta get commensurate value to make up for all the picks Melo cost us from 2011.
BRIGGS wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Bleacher report had this quote. Lowe was speculating about trades for Morris and said the Knicks had nothing to give up for him. Here is the actual quote from the Grantland article,
Indiana probably doesn’t want another “problem” personality, and the Pacers don’t have much beyond a lowball offer without attaching a first-rounder. Morris would open up the floor a bit in Washington. He’d eat into the Wizards’ Kevin Durant cap room, but they could move him in a pinch after the season. The Kings and Knicks should take a look, even though neither has movable assets that would interest Phoenix — unless the Knicks are ready to engage in Carmelo Anthony trade talks. (They’re not there, yet. But they’re getting closer.)
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-cu...
The Suns are the natural trading partner as they have a SF replacement---Morris and other pieces(drafted picks) that make a trade possible. Why would this guy say this without some kind of prompting from someone on the Knicks---Zach is not a bad reporter.
The small forward Morris was already moved to Detroit, that's why the other Morris wants out. PHO sent 3 SF's to detroit.
BRIGGS wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Bleacher report had this quote. Lowe was speculating about trades for Morris and said the Knicks had nothing to give up for him. Here is the actual quote from the Grantland article,
Indiana probably doesn’t want another “problem” personality, and the Pacers don’t have much beyond a lowball offer without attaching a first-rounder. Morris would open up the floor a bit in Washington. He’d eat into the Wizards’ Kevin Durant cap room, but they could move him in a pinch after the season. The Kings and Knicks should take a look, even though neither has movable assets that would interest Phoenix — unless the Knicks are ready to engage in Carmelo Anthony trade talks. (They’re not there, yet. But they’re getting closer.)
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-cu...
The Suns are the natural trading partner as they have a SF replacement---Morris and other pieces(drafted picks) that make a trade possible. Why would this guy say this without some kind of prompting from someone on the Knicks---Zach is not a bad reporter.
I'd be wary of either of the Morris twins cause if they can get in trouble in Phoenix then they sure as heck can find trouble in New York. I would like to trade him to a team like the Celtics that have plenty of draft picks and good young talent to trade but don't see Melo wanting to play in Boston. The teams i can see him approving a trade to is both LA teams, Chicago, Washington maybe, Miami and maybe to any of the Texas teams.
CrushAlot wrote:Bleacher report had this quote. Lowe was speculating about trades for Morris and said the Knicks had nothing to give up for him. Here is the actual quote from the Grantland article,
Indiana probably doesn’t want another “problem” personality, and the Pacers don’t have much beyond a lowball offer without attaching a first-rounder. Morris would open up the floor a bit in Washington. He’d eat into the Wizards’ Kevin Durant cap room, but they could move him in a pinch after the season. The Kings and Knicks should take a look, even though neither has movable assets that would interest Phoenix — unless the Knicks are ready to engage in Carmelo Anthony trade talks. (They’re not there, yet. But they’re getting closer.)
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-cu...
Good call. I read the article and saw the line about the knicks but really didn't think about it. I suppose "getting Closer" can mean a lot of things but I doubt Markief Morris is the centerpiece of any trade and the article kinds depicts Morris as not being anything special. League has man "average" PF and the writer thinks he is among them. Is he really that much better than O'Quinn? We'll find out.
As for Melo, I think everyone on this board knows if the knicks are not clicking it was better for us to sign and then trade him then to let him walk, and it was good for him as well. A lost season might have been predicted with his knee even last summer. This is not the first time Melo used is leverage. He faced surgery in the year he could have opted out and the CBA was done leaving him highly exposed if something went wrong (AKA: DON"T GET HURT!).
My dark horse trade is if the Clippers suck, we send Melo to them for Griffith. ProzinGod is the center of the future.
I have no other trade ideas for who would want him and what the return would be. Lakers are a natural partner but only Russell and Kobe's contract would work.
If Kobe is emulating Jordan then a trip to Knicks fits as Jordan was a Wizard for a time. Just me spewing nonsense. Kobe would sell seats and Russell/ProzinGod is the future.
What we don't know either is what is the criteria by which Melo would want out? It could be "Playoffs" or him playing out of his mind great and the knicks get a great return on the trade.
We don't know a lot. Lets not pretend otherwise.
Interestingly, this time is a little different than 2011 when Melo used his leverage to come to NY. At that time, he was focused on the contract/money he would be getting, and didn't care what the Knicks had to give up for him in return.
This time, he has his contract/money locked up and wants to play for a good team. This time, he has a no trade clause that he could potentially use against the Knicks if they were to get too good a trade and leave the destination team too bare. I could see him not caring about projects and draft picks, but he could torpedo a trade that would send the Knicks a quality veteran, esp a top level talent, that he would rather have as a teammate. Ironically, he could have learned from the trade that brought him to NY so as not arrive to a similar situation that he would be leaving, screwing NY both times.
So some reporter is thinking, if the knicks suck, their best move would be to try and trade melo, because there's no way Phil will get rid of fisher. Then he relays those thoughts in a half ass article to make it seem like he has rock solid source, and that source turns out to be him and his co workers at happy hour in idle conversation.
This is so ridiculous
newyorker4ever wrote:BRIGGS wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Bleacher report had this quote. Lowe was speculating about trades for Morris and said the Knicks had nothing to give up for him. Here is the actual quote from the Grantland article,
Indiana probably doesn’t want another “problem” personality, and the Pacers don’t have much beyond a lowball offer without attaching a first-rounder. Morris would open up the floor a bit in Washington. He’d eat into the Wizards’ Kevin Durant cap room, but they could move him in a pinch after the season. The Kings and Knicks should take a look, even though neither has movable assets that would interest Phoenix — unless the Knicks are ready to engage in Carmelo Anthony trade talks. (They’re not there, yet. But they’re getting closer.)
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-cu...
The Suns are the natural trading partner as they have a SF replacement---Morris and other pieces(drafted picks) that make a trade possible. Why would this guy say this without some kind of prompting from someone on the Knicks---Zach is not a bad reporter.
I'd be wary of either of the Morris twins cause if they can get in trouble in Phoenix then they sure as heck can find trouble in New York. I would like to trade him to a team like the Celtics that have plenty of draft picks and good young talent to trade but don't see Melo wanting to play in Boston. The teams i can see him approving a trade to is both LA teams, Chicago, Washington maybe, Miami and maybe to any of the Texas teams.
Quite honestly IF the Knicks trade Melo--the best way to do it would be 3 teams. 3 teams could facilitate it--Im not sure 2 can. But Id rather start the season without this kind of stuff.
derozan and your pick back.
WaltLongmire wrote:From KEN BERGER at CBS...
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-......Recent speculation suggested that the Suns, amid all this Morris drama, would be wise to take a look at a deal for Anthony, and that the Knicks are "getting closer" to exploring trade options for their frachise player.Is there any truth to this?
As of now, absolutely not.
For starters, before Anthony, an eight-time All-Star, could be traded, two things would have to happen: 1) Knicks president Phil Jackson and GM Steve Mills would have to have a conversation about it; and 2) with a no-trade clause, Anthony would have to agree to it -- and dictate the team and the terms.
On count one, the parties are not guilty; a person with direct knowledge of the Knicks' front-office discussions told CBS Sports Thursday that Jackson and Mills have not so much as had a discussion about trading Anthony -- no matter how much Peyote may or may not have been in the air.
After that, count two becomes a moot point, but either way Anthony's no-trade clause is merely one of many factors that would make trading the $124 million man problematic, to say the least.
It is strange that Lowe mentions it, but he just seemed to be cycling through possible destinations for Morris.
yea.. this is all BS... but Im suprised there arent 25 pages on how Melo "really feels" followed by more BS.
"getting closer" what a crock
djsunyc wrote:derozan and your pick back.
That would be a great trade for both teams
djsunyc wrote:derozan and your pick back.
Wow that would be semi-enticing. Id take the pick back but Id see if I can move Derozan to Phoenix and For Morris and Booker. i.e
Melo to Toronto
Our pick back M Morris Devin Booker
Derozan Early to Suns
Toronto would have a chance to beat Clev. Pheonix would be be better and more balanced and the Knicks would have their pick back + 2 enticing young players. I think we could still make the playoffs + wed have a mid range pick and salary reief
MEH! I'd rather have Melo. These other players being mentioned aren't doing it for me. IMO I can see Melo continuing to be strong over the rest of his contract and our team being built up around him over that time period. Melo, KP, Jerian and RoLo should be a very strong core as they develop together. I don't see a better alternative in any of these trades.
