I'm very hyped about the new season.
We are nothing special but we are a good collection of quality, hard-working players. No more malcontents, stiffs or just plain worthless dregs. We have a team now. An actual team that will play for each other and their coach. And we have a young potentially franchise-changing rookie we can watch grow.
I'm ready!
And, yes, it is me. You know who. I just wanted to drop in for a quick hello to my old pals. Miss you all.
I've probably said that I'm looking more to this season than any other since the Ewing days, in about 1/3 of my posts. lol
As you said, the malcontents are gone and we've got an influx of new talent. It should be both exciting and we should have a pretty good "product" on the floor.
I think we'll know by 1/3 into the season how good this team is, and then we can make some noise and get the chemistry flowing nicely in the 2nd half.
I'm mostly looking forward to a more team oriented game and watching Grant and KP develop.
The way the team is constructed, I do think we will surprise people, by the 2nd half.
earthmansurfer wrote:I've probably said that I'm looking more to this season than any other since the Ewing days, in about 1/3 of my posts. lolAs you said, the malcontents are gone and we've got an influx of new talent. It should be both exciting and we should have a pretty good "product" on the floor.
I think we'll know by 1/3 into the season how good this team is, and then we can make some noise and get the chemistry flowing nicely in the 2nd half.
I'm mostly looking forward to a more team oriented game and watching Grant and KP develop.
The way the team is constructed, I do think we will surprise people, by the 2nd half.
this. +1
Well said
fishmike wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:I've probably said that I'm looking more to this season than any other since the Ewing days, in about 1/3 of my posts. lolAs you said, the malcontents are gone and we've got an influx of new talent. It should be both exciting and we should have a pretty good "product" on the floor.
I think we'll know by 1/3 into the season how good this team is, and then we can make some noise and get the chemistry flowing nicely in the 2nd half.
I'm mostly looking forward to a more team oriented game and watching Grant and KP develop.
The way the team is constructed, I do think we will surprise people, by the 2nd half.
this. +1
Well said
I'm pretty much in the same boat. Dumping the malcontents/stiffs/dregs (read: JR, Chandler, Bargs, etc.) was a key part of what will make this team exciting to watch. Stoked for Zinger and Grant to blossom together.
"There's something happening here....what it is ain't exactly clear..."
Im excited mostly because of the rookies. Ive said many times i value the draft and building a team through the draft. As we all know the Knicks had become famous for throwing aways picks every year and becoming worse because of it. I think we will be much better than last year but are probably still a year away from being a good playoff team
I think we get excited at the start of every season, you just hope everything goes right. If i start seeing us getting blown out in preseason, I'm going to be very concern. I know a lot of people think preseason doesn't matter much, but the yr we won 54 games, I saw a different team in preseason, a solid defensive scheme, a unselfish group and we never got blown out.
The yrs we have gotten blown out by 20 or more in the preseason (the last 2 yrs) well, we know how the season turned out.
earthmansurfer wrote:I've probably said that I'm looking more to this season than any other since the Ewing days, in about 1/3 of my posts. lolAs you said, the malcontents are gone and we've got an influx of new talent. It should be both exciting and we should have a pretty good "product" on the floor.
I think we'll know by 1/3 into the season how good this team is, and then we can make some noise and get the chemistry flowing nicely in the 2nd half.
I'm mostly looking forward to a more team oriented game and watching Grant and KP develop.
The way the team is constructed, I do think we will surprise people, by the 2nd half.
I'm guardedly optimistic - but this is what I hope happens this season.
I do like the make up of the team a lot.
knicks1248 wrote:I think we get excited at the start of every season, you just hope everything goes right. If i start seeing us getting blown out in preseason, I'm going to be very concern. I know a lot of people think preseason doesn't matter much, but the yr we won 54 games, I saw a different team in preseason, a solid defensive scheme, a unselfish group and we never got blown out.The yrs we have gotten blown out by 20 or more in the preseason (the last 2 yrs) well, we know how the season turned out.
Not me, I don't get excited every season, as I said not in a long time. Sure, hardcore Knicks fans might, but I am the kind of Knicks fan who hasn't appreciated what Dolan and company have done to this team. I stopped with league pass, etc. Now there is some light at the end of the tunnel, or rather right in front of us.
Interesting about the pre-season, Grant looked EXCELLENT as did KP. See, now you got me excited again.
I really like the summer we've had. Phil has changed the culture of this team regardless of what some may think. You can tell already that this team is in a different place mentally. I think this team has bonded and is ahead of where this team was at this point last season. It's a more professional group and I think that will help this team to avoid another horrid start. Sure they have to develop full chemistry and a clear identity but just off effort and playing smart I think they can win some games as they come together.
Of course the excitement about KP and Jerian is adding to the good feelings. Not often that we have 2 1st rd picks of this caliber to be watching develop. This could be the future of the team, so yeah it's exciting! If you can't get up for 2 young players like KP and Jerian then you may be dead.
I like the composition of the team and that most of the new core players are under 30 have little to no baggage, and play 2 way ball.
I'm hoping for lots of ball movement, utilizing the triangle offense, more fast breaks, and an emphasis on team defense.
There's still the lingering question marks with Calderon's old slow ass and will Melo continue to buy in, but we'll leave that for another discussion.
This season is all about the development of these 2 young bucks.
Any number wins is nice, just as long as these 2 grow into the future cornerstones of the renovation.
i hope we develop into a memphis type of blue collar team.
Cartman718 wrote:i hope we develop into a memphis type of blue collar team.
That's pretty much what Phil was going for. I mean just look at the type of players he brought in and you can tell that he is looking for a strong team that plays more like Memphis than Golden State. It's more of an Old School style of game but he didn't completely ignore having some speed and athleticism. We have a nice mix and this team should be very flexible and able to match up with any team..
Cartman718 wrote:i hope we develop into a memphis type of blue collar team.
I just want more ball sharing, penetration, free throws (80% on the season), defense, solid rotation,and we can win atleast 45 games on that alone
knicks1248 wrote:Cartman718 wrote:i hope we develop into a memphis type of blue collar team.
I just want more ball sharing, penetration, free throws (80% on the season), defense, solid rotation,and we can win atleast 45 games on that alone
You should be pretty happy this year then, cuz that's what this team was built to do. We have a lot more passers, defenders, penetration and guys that should draw fouls and can hit their FT's. It's a lunch pail roster thru and thru.
I don't know if I am really excited for this season, but I am excited, and I am really excited for the future (meaning this season and the next few)
nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Cartman718 wrote:i hope we develop into a memphis type of blue collar team.
I just want more ball sharing, penetration, free throws (80% on the season), defense, solid rotation,and we can win atleast 45 games on that alone
You should be pretty happy this year then, cuz that's what this team was built to do. We have a lot more passers, defenders, penetration and guys that should draw fouls and can hit their FT's. It's a lunch pail roster thru and thru.
Affalo hammy? In a more alarming development, Arron Afflalo missed practice for hamstring reason. Has he had many hammy issues before? If not, I am not worried.
Cartman718 wrote:Affalo hammy? In a more alarming development, Arron Afflalo missed practice for hamstring reason. Has he had many hammy issues before? If not, I am not worried.
Not quite concerned about him.
he is complimentary peace to help keep Melo head straight.
If this will not work out in both respects its fine with me.
His contract is tradable so no concern here
still not convinced that the triangle translates well to the modern game (without a top 5 HOF player). Lets see how it plays out this year. I have a feeling that the knicks are gonna lead the league again in long 2 attempts and if they do, I will be pretty disgusted.
mreinman wrote:still not convinced that the triangle translates well to the modern game (without a top 5 HOF player). Lets see how it plays out this year. I have a feeling that the knicks are gonna lead the league again in long 2 attempts and if they do, I will be pretty disgusted.
Yeah, this is one of my few concerns. In the highlight videos for training camp I still saw a bunch of them in the scrimmages.
Other than that,
I just want to see this to be a year of good progress and solid foundation to be set for us to succeed even further in the future.
Lots of new players, going to take time for all of them to get on the same page. Some players have worked out together already which will help some. I expect the offense to be a work in progress, players in the rotation need to learn each other's tendencies.
I expect the interior defense to be much improved. 3pt defense will be very important as our new improved frontcourt should encourage teams to shoot more 3s.
Overall Im excited about this season. Not excited about paying for F'%#%%^ league pass, but Im excited about this team possibly taking a big step forward. I dont expect the Knicks to get to the ECF unless Porzingis plays lights out. Otherwise, I would still be happy to watch the Knicks make the playoffs and represent again. Would like to see the Knicks make any team that knocks them out of the playoffs really earn it.
