Knicks · ESPN Mavs reporter predicting Ndour and Dalembert will get cut (page 1)

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OK, no for all of those who bitched and moaned that Phil didn't do his best to keep Ndour, who would you cut today to replace with Maurice?

For good measure, here is 4 preseason stat lines: http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/.... 2-13 from 3point land, not too many rebounds, averaged about 22 minutes across 4 preseason games.

6'9" SF who is too slow? 6'9" PF on a roster with an abundance of guys who can play PF already?

What you got?

Bring back N'Dour. If he played like before, the Knicks would have one hell of a bench. Talk about high octane. He's also a great team player, and would fit right in with this roster.

martin wrote:OK, no for all of those who bitched and moaned that Phil didn't do his best to keep Ndour, who would you cut today to replace with Maurice?

For good measure, here is 4 preseason stat lines: http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/.... 2-13 from 3point land, not too many rebounds, averaged about 22 minutes across 4 preseason games.

6'9" SF who is too slow? 6'9" PF on a roster with an abundance of guys who can play PF already?

What you got?

Easy, Seraphin.

inconceivable that NDour would get cut. Its hard to image why he doesn't have a 4 year deal yet if you were to listen to what some posters who honestly thought our failure to sign this guy over Lance Thomas clearly displayed why Phil Jackson was a terrible GM, etc. etc.

We don't need him. We have enough guys already ahead of him. I would still take Ledo before NDour if I had a roster spot

martin wrote:OK, no for all of those who bitched and moaned that Phil didn't do his best to keep Ndour, who would you cut today to replace with Maurice?

For good measure, here is 4 preseason stat lines: http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/.... 2-13 from 3point land, not too many rebounds, averaged about 22 minutes across 4 preseason games.

6'9" SF who is too slow? 6'9" PF on a roster with an abundance of guys who can play PF already?

What you got?

we were literally thinking the same thing at the same time. You don't want to know where I was when I posted this

+1 anywho

GustavBahler wrote:

martin wrote:OK, no for all of those who bitched and moaned that Phil didn't do his best to keep Ndour, who would you cut today to replace with Maurice?

For good measure, here is 4 preseason stat lines: http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/.... 2-13 from 3point land, not too many rebounds, averaged about 22 minutes across 4 preseason games.

6'9" SF who is too slow? 6'9" PF on a roster with an abundance of guys who can play PF already?

What you got?

Easy, Seraphin.

With Seraphin out you are down to 2 big bodies: Rolo, KOQ. Both of those guys will miss like 10 games this year, you would be really thin at C

fishmike wrote:inconceivable that NDour would get cut. Its hard to image why he doesn't have a 4 year deal yet if you were to listen to what some posters who honestly thought our failure to sign this guy over Lance Thomas clearly displayed why Phil Jackson was a terrible GM, etc. etc.

We don't need him. We have enough guys already ahead of him. I would still take Ledo before NDour if I had a roster spot

Not everyone who was against letting N'Dour go thought it was confirmation that Phil was a bad exec. I loved N'Dour's energy, his doing the little things, and if you listened to the guy in the post game interview while he was here you would see someone who would be great chemistry wise.

GustavBahler wrote:Bring back N'Dour. If he played like before, the Knicks would have one hell of a bench. Talk about high octane. He's also a great team player, and would fit right in with this roster.

What does NDour do that Early does not?

martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

martin wrote:OK, no for all of those who bitched and moaned that Phil didn't do his best to keep Ndour, who would you cut today to replace with Maurice?

For good measure, here is 4 preseason stat lines: http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/.... 2-13 from 3point land, not too many rebounds, averaged about 22 minutes across 4 preseason games.

6'9" SF who is too slow? 6'9" PF on a roster with an abundance of guys who can play PF already?

What you got?

Easy, Seraphin.

With Seraphin out you are down to 2 big bodies: Rolo, KOQ. Both of those guys will miss like 10 games this year, you would be really thin at C

We have KP as well who can play either PF or center. We could lose players at F as well. As I said in another post, I believe N'Dour would add something beyond his stats. Very positive individual who I believe would be good to have around when things go south. Im not convinced Seraphin can stay healthy.

martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Bring back N'Dour. If he played like before, the Knicks would have one hell of a bench. Talk about high octane. He's also a great team player, and would fit right in with this roster.

What does NDour do that Early does not?

Early hasn't been able to stay healthy since turning pro, N'Dour would be good insurance if we can get him cheap. Thats also provided he plays like he did his last time around. He might do better in this offense the way DWill has.

I honestly dont care what he's done for the Mavs, but rather what he did for the Knicks. He played well here and I'd instantly want him back if he became available. Why wouldnt I want a guy back who played well? Looking at a few preseason games in a totally different system means nothing.

If he doesn't get other NBA interest, I'd at least want to offer him a spot at Westchester.

I'm wondering how the team is feeling about Thanasis right now?

Honestly, the guy on the roster I have the least interest in is Lance Thomas, but I don't think he's going anywhere.

Don't we have 2 roster spots open?

There's no way I'm giving up on Cleanthony Early, btw. How can folks suggest that? The work he's put in is obvious. I look for him to have an impact this season - he'll have to earn minutes and maybe get some opportunity through injury, but I think both things are likely.

Also, I don't N'Dour's game and Early's game are remotely similar. I think O'Quinn gives this team a lot of what people liked from N'Dour in Summer League, with the bonus that o'Quinn is not remotely undersized and N'Dour is a little undersized for the 4/5 he was playing in SL.

Shouldn't we sign him to our d league. It gives him lots of playing time instead of rotting on our bench. And then bring him up when the time is right or injury call up... As much as I like ndour he needs work ... He'd make a really nice piece in the Knicks d league

To have

trice
Sanders
Ndour
Atkins
?

Knicks supposedly did want to sign N'Dour after Summer League and were supposedly surprised at the Mavs offer. I wonder if they'll reach out now?

Of course, he actually has to be cut first.

BRIGGS wrote:Don't we have 2 roster spots open?

I think that ship may have sailed. Perhaps they might consider adding Ndour to the D League team if he isn't picked up. I see no way he could possibly be added to the actual roster over any of the guys we have at this point. The only real spot left is Thanasis and I think he'll make it.

PLAYER (16)                     POS.    SIGNED USING BASE SALARY   CAP %
1  Carmelo Anthony	        SF	Bird	     $22,875,000   32.68
2  Robin Lopez	                C	Cap Space    $12,650,000   18.07
3  Arron Afflalo	        SG	Cap Space    $8,000,000	   11.43
4  Jose Calderon	        PG	Cap Space    $7,402,812	   10.58
5  Derrick Williams	        PF	Cap Space    $4,400,000	   6.29
6  Kristaps Porzingis	        PF	Rookie	     $4,131,720	   5.90
7  Kyle O'Quinn	                PF	Bird	     $3,750,000	   5.36
8  Kevin Seraphin	        PF	Room	     $2,814,000	   4.02
9  Jerian Grant	                PG	Rookie	     $2,021,520	   2.89
10 Lance Thomas	                SF	Cap Space    $1,636,842	   2.34
11 Louis Amundson	        PF	Non-Bird     $1,635,476	   2.34
12 Sasha Vujacic	        SG	Minimum	     $1,356,146	   1.35
13 Cleanthony Early	        SF	Minimum	     $845,059	   1.21
14 Langston Galloway	        PG	Minimum	     $845,059	   1.21
15 Thanasis Antetokounmpo	SF	Minimum	     $525,093	   0.75

Yea I think d league is where Ndour belongs .. But I could see a team like philly actually signing him to a nba deal

fitzfarm wrote:Shouldn't we sign him to our d league. It gives him lots of playing time instead of rotting on our bench. And then bring him up when the time is right or injury call up... As much as I like ndour he needs work ... He'd make a really nice piece in the Knicks d league

To have

trice
Sanders
Ndour
Atkins
?

That's a great idea.

You can post whatever stats you want on NDour with the Mavs, the real question is what do you want in a 15th man on this roster. You want someone who plays with energy, will be ready if called upon to fill a role and someone who is a good locker room guy. NDour is all of those things from what I saw from him in SL. TA seems to have a little chip on his shoulder, the same type of chip another player we had that really wasn't very good but got a roster spot he didn't deserve. Chris Smith had a sense of entitlement and it was a cancer to our team. I haven't seen enough of TA to make that same statement, but I do not think he deserves a roster spot and I don't really like his attitude which to me smells of entitlement. I would rather have NDour as the 15th man.