I would be willing to give our 2018 1st round pick to Sac for Rondo. Why would Sac do it? Because Sac is looking like it will miss the playoffs once again this year and Rondo is a FA next season. Why wouldn't we just wait and try and sign him next season? because the Knicks are a guard short of being a playoff team this season. Even though Rondo is an expiring contract, I would give up the pick to salvage this year. Melo isn't getting any younger and we are trying to also establish a winning culture. The pick would also be considered payment for taking Calderon.
Adding Rondo now makes us better now. Getting rid of Calderon now makes us better now. Getting rid of Calderon's salary next season helps us with cap room. The cost, one 1st round pick. I would make that deal.
NardDogNation wrote:Nothing.
12.7 PPG, 10.8 APG, 7.6 RPG, 16.67 PER - four triple-doubles and two double-doubles in the last nine games
Nothing, really?
This is exactly what rondo does. He will be this player 1 minute, and the guy that played in dallas the next. Don't you think Dallas regrets dealing that draft pick for Rondo? I think we stay away from that route. He's a free agent this summer, thats the only avenue you consider getting him in.
Rookie wrote:I would be willing to give our 2018 1st round pick to Sac for Rondo. Why would Sac do it? Because Sac is looking like it will miss the playoffs once again this year and Rondo is a FA next season. Why wouldn't we just wait and try and sign him next season? because the Knicks are a guard short of being a playoff team this season. Even though Rondo is an expiring contract, I would give up the pick to salvage this year. Melo isn't getting any younger and we are trying to also establish a winning culture. The pick would also be considered payment for taking Calderon. Adding Rondo now makes us better now. Getting rid of Calderon now makes us better now. Getting rid of Calderon's salary next season helps us with cap room. The cost, one 1st round pick. I would make that deal.
Please see Dallas and Rondo last year.
Rookie wrote:I would be willing to give our 2018 1st round pick to Sac for Rondo. Why would Sac do it? Because Sac is looking like it will miss the playoffs once again this year and Rondo is a FA next season. Why wouldn't we just wait and try and sign him next season? because the Knicks are a guard short of being a playoff team this season. Even though Rondo is an expiring contract, I would give up the pick to salvage this year. Melo isn't getting any younger and we are trying to also establish a winning culture. The pick would also be considered payment for taking Calderon. Adding Rondo now makes us better now. Getting rid of Calderon now makes us better now. Getting rid of Calderon's salary next season helps us with cap room. The cost, one 1st round pick. I would make that deal.
Those who learn not from the past are doomed to repeat it. Lets consult The Isaiah Thomas Trade Checklist:
1. Player must have questionable attitude, be able to alienate team mates, quit in the playoffs and sulk for prolonged stretches of games.
2. Player must be a 'big name', preferably in steep decline or having recently suffered a serious injury
3. Opposing team must be insistant on taking our draft pick or draft picks (preferably unprotected)
4. Player must be displaying an increase in effort and productivity coinciding with a contract year
5. Pretend the future doesn't exist- a pick to be given in the future will never happen and noting will ever go wrong
Rookie wrote:I would be willing to give our 2018 1st round pick to Sac for Rondo. Why would Sac do it? Because Sac is looking like it will miss the playoffs once again this year and Rondo is a FA next season. Why wouldn't we just wait and try and sign him next season? because the Knicks are a guard short of being a playoff team this season. Even though Rondo is an expiring contract, I would give up the pick to salvage this year. Melo isn't getting any younger and we are trying to also establish a winning culture. The pick would also be considered payment for taking Calderon. Adding Rondo now makes us better now. Getting rid of Calderon now makes us better now. Getting rid of Calderon's salary next season helps us with cap room. The cost, one 1st round pick. I would make that deal.
This is a time-out worthy Thread.
Rookie wrote:NardDogNation wrote:Nothing.
12.7 PPG, 10.8 APG, 7.6 RPG, 16.67 PER - four triple-doubles and two double-doubles in the last nine games
Nothing, really?
He is right.Rondo is a coach killer. If you don'T mind him running things and making decisions, cause that is what he does, then fine.
There is a reason he was crapola last year.
He didn't work in Dallas because he wanted the ball in his hands at all times making all the decisions. And since he can't shoot he has no choice but to be this way regardless. I don't see how he fits in the Tried where he will have to feed the ball to the post a lot and play off the ball a lot.
oh lordy...I guess I asked for this
My hate for Calderon is getting the better of me
Rondo would put Fisher in his back pocket. Dude's a walking cancer cell.
Rookie wrote:oh lordy...I guess I asked for this My hate for Calderon is getting the better of me
Honestly, I get what you were saying if you aren't happy about Jose. But he is playing at a pretty high level right now and if he can keep it up, with the cap going up, he is easily tradeable or even keep-able. He is not playing bad (ouch, that hurts to say). And he is a great teamate (says everyone) and important to many of the guys. He probably isn't going anyway unless we get a great offer or his playing goes back down.
But you were so off base regarding Rondo! Repent and see the light.
ChuckBuck wrote:Rondo would put Fisher in his back pocket. Dude's a walking cancer cell.
he kind of looks like Huggy bear from Starsky & Hutch
Well, he has turned that Sacramento team around so far...right?
...Ahhh... right?
...Maybe not-might not be a great idea after all.
earthmansurfer wrote:Rookie wrote:oh lordy...I guess I asked for this My hate for Calderon is getting the better of me
Honestly, I get what you were saying if you aren't happy about Jose. But he is playing at a pretty high level right now and if he can keep it up, with the cap going up, he is easily tradeable or even keep-able. He is not playing bad (ouch, that hurts to say). And he is a great teamate (says everyone) and important to many of the guys. He probably isn't going anyway unless we get a great offer or his playing goes back down.
But you were so off base regarding Rondo! Repent and see the light.
We've had a pretty good track record of turning guys with a bad rep into solid citizens...ahhhhhh, forget it. I should just quit it before the ban hammer comes down
ChuckBuck wrote:Rondo would put Fisher in his back pocket. Dude's a walking cancer cell.
It's no secrete that carlisle likes to call ever single play, one of the reason why kidd left. Rondo had 20 assist last night, he feeds players the ball where they don't even realize how open they are when they receive the ball. KP and melo would probably avg 5 ppg more with a pg like rondo
with a in experience coach like fisher, just make his life easier and he's on a one yr contract.
calderone + Quin, 2nd rnd = rondo and 2nd rnd
knicks1248 wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:Rondo would put Fisher in his back pocket. Dude's a walking cancer cell.
It's no secrete that carlisle likes to call ever single play, one of the reason why kidd left. Rondo had 20 assist last night, he feeds players the ball where they don't even realize how open they are when they receive the ball. KP and melo would probably avg 5 ppg more with a pg like rondo
with a in experience coach like fisher, just make his life easier and he's on a one yr contract.
calderone + Quin, 2nd rnd = rondo and 2nd rnd
Rondo's a freelancer, not a system player. Fisher is a system coach.
Clash of idealogies right off the bat.
knicks1248 wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:Rondo would put Fisher in his back pocket. Dude's a walking cancer cell.
It's no secrete that carlisle likes to call ever single play, one of the reason why kidd left. Rondo had 20 assist last night, he feeds players the ball where they don't even realize how open they are when they receive the ball. KP and melo would probably avg 5 ppg more with a pg like rondo
with a in experience coach like fisher, just make his life easier and he's on a one yr contract.
calderone + Quin, 2nd rnd = rondo and 2nd rnd
I still can't understand how if Calderon is such a good PG, why he can't figure out that KP is 7'-3" when passing him the ball in the post.
of course I would stay far away.
I killed dallas for making this trade predicting that it would be a disaster and many here disagreed.
Can we get Darren Collison instead?
We're sacrificing our future for a rent a player? And Rondo no less? Go away!
