KP shooting phucking 3's!!!!!!!!
can we all see what this guy can do from deep? Can we stop missing this dude so often when he is wide open from beyond the arc?
can we stop with all the stupid posting and stretch the damn floor?
Enough with the old school bull shyt all game and opening it up at the end like tom coughlin.
KP is potentially one of the best 3 point shooters in the game
Kid is amazing. He is our best player and he hasnt even reached the tip of the iceberg
KP is something else.
How can our fans really be that upset right now?
We were atrocious last year and he has transformed the team.
He's a freakin revelation at this point.
mreinman wrote:KP shooting phucking 3's!!!!!!!!can we all see what this guy can do from deep? Can we stop missing this dude so often when he is wide open from beyond the arc?
can we stop with all the stupid posting and stretch the damn floor?
Enough with the old school bull shyt all game and opening it up at the end like tom coughlin.
KP is potentially one of the best 3 point shooters in the game
Thought it was interesting when they gave the 3 pt pctge of other euros as rookies. He is a threat from anywhere on the court. He had some nice moves when he put the ball on the floor.
PresIke wrote:KP is something else.How can our fans really be that upset right now?
We were atrocious last year and he has transformed the team.
He's a freakin revelation at this point.
im ecstatic. However im more upset we dont have our draft pick. I love KP and im also a big grant fan
CrushAlot wrote:mreinman wrote:KP shooting phucking 3's!!!!!!!!can we all see what this guy can do from deep? Can we stop missing this dude so often when he is wide open from beyond the arc?
can we stop with all the stupid posting and stretch the damn floor?
Enough with the old school bull shyt all game and opening it up at the end like tom coughlin.
KP is potentially one of the best 3 point shooters in the game
Thought it was interesting when they gave the 3 pt pctge of other euros as rookies. He is a threat from anywhere on the court. He had some nice moves when he put the ball on the floor.
yeah but those moves were scary. Him stretching the floor will open up everything. We have to burn defenders like zaza gabor
EXACTLY, mreinman! I feel like KP could've scored 50 tonight if he was hit every time he was open! I was yelling at the screen! Ridiculous!
mreinman wrote:KP shooting phucking 3's!!!!!!!!can we all see what this guy can do from deep? Can we stop missing this dude so often when he is wide open from beyond the arc?
can we stop with all the stupid posting and stretch the damn floor?
Enough with the old school bull shyt all game and opening it up at the end like tom coughlin.
KP is potentially one of the best 3 point shooters in the game
I agree. The post play is much maligned
Even Dirk just said KP at center and Melo at PF was a tough small ball lineup for them to guard. Eventhough it's hard to said small ball when KP is 7'3
But I think our best lineup will be KP at center and Melo at PF. Take it from me, I'm in my 40's and I rather play a bigger stronger guy than a guy my size or smaller / younger / quicker. Even better, if we had a superstar that actually played PF like Aldrige, thats even better.
We need to play KP and Melo more often at the center and pf positions, instead of waiting until we are down. It gives us more offense at all 5 positions, without giving up rim protection.
blkexec wrote:Even Dirk just said KP at center and Melo at PF was a tough small ball lineup for them to guard. Eventhough it's hard to said small ball when KP is 7'3But I think our best lineup will be KP at center and Melo at PF. Take it from me, I'm in my 40's and I rather play a bigger stronger guy than a guy my size or smaller / younger / quicker. Even better, if we had a superstar that actually played PF like Aldrige, thats even better.
We need to play KP and Melo more often at the center and pf positions, instead of waiting until we are down. It gives us more offense at all 5 positions, without giving up rim protection.
Well Melo is having a bad year and putting up Aldridge type efficiency while rebounding great as a 3. If they wanted too they could get away with it by subbing Lopez out earlier. That makes to much sense though to pair Melo with a rim protector who also stretched the floor and pair a PnR big with a PnR pg(Lopez/Grant).
In the second half of games The adjustment should be: Calderon (since we don't really have a better option), Aflalo,Williams/Lance, Carmelo, KP.
I'd rather feed the ball to KP in the post than to Lopez or Seraphin anyday! When can we trade them? Dallas could use Lopez.
The problem is for a young wanna be coach like fisher, he is stucked in the 80s
Knicks1969 wrote:The problem is for a young wanna be coach like fisher, he is stucked in the 80s
At first, I thought the problem was Fisher......now I think the real problem is Fisher working in Phil's shadow. I think Fisher is trying too hard to coach like Phil, instead of adapting to the roster at hand.
When your mentor, who taught you everything you know about winning championships, gives 14 mil to Lopez, you almost have no choice but to start him. Lopez and O'quinn are 1980's centers....In todays game, they are backup players most of the time, due to the speed of the game, and the offensive challenges to put the ball in the hole.
But I thought Melo was going to hold KP back....when in fact I think it's Lopez thats causing the offensive problems. He's taking up space on the offensive end that should go to at least 5 other players first.....
KP
Melo
AA
Seraphin
KP, Melo, AA are players that score from everywhere on the floor. When Lopez is in the game, this reduces the real estate and minimizes their opportunities. Thats why Lopez usually has nobody to pass it to, because his man sags off, guarding the passing lanes. When any of the 4 guys above have the ball in the post, there are more passing lanes, due to double teams. If no double comes, thats a bucket.
I like Lopez and think he's a needed asset. But it's clear that KP is not a normal rookie and he needs that floor space. It also gives Melo and AA room to operate in the post, where Melo can score over SF's.....
But again, when will Fisher grow some balls and just put the best offensive lineup on the floor for most of the game, and see if that makes a difference. I want to see KP start at center, so he can bring the other big out of the paint....create more space.....and use his quickness against slower centers.
blkexec wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:The problem is for a young wanna be coach like fisher, he is stucked in the 80s
But again, when will Fisher grow some balls and just put the best offensive lineup on the floor for most of the game, and see if that makes a difference.
Why would he do that rather than put the best defensive lineup on the floor for most of the game, or the most balanced offense/defense lineup on the floor?
markvmc wrote:blkexec wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:The problem is for a young wanna be coach like fisher, he is stucked in the 80s
But again, when will Fisher grow some balls and just put the best offensive lineup on the floor for most of the game, and see if that makes a difference.
Why would he do that rather than put the best defensive lineup on the floor for most of the game, or the most balanced offense/defense lineup on the floor?
Thats what he's doing now. Thats why Lopez and KP are starting. He's following Phil's twin tower phylosophy, which works on defense, but doesn't work on offense. Time to try something else. We a center thats a 2 way player, which is what you want in your triangle. 1 way players doesn't work on both ends.
blkexec wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:The problem is for a young wanna be coach like fisher, he is stucked in the 80s
At first, I thought the problem was Fisher......now I think the real problem is Fisher working in Phil's shadow. I think Fisher is trying too hard to coach like Phil, instead of adapting to the roster at hand.
When your mentor, who taught you everything you know about winning championships, gives 14 mil to Lopez, you almost have no choice but to start him. Lopez and O'quinn are 1980's centers....In todays game, they are backup players most of the time, due to the speed of the game, and the offensive challenges to put the ball in the hole.
But I thought Melo was going to hold KP back....when in fact I think it's Lopez thats causing the offensive problems. He's taking up space on the offensive end that should go to at least 5 other players first.....
KP
Melo
AA
Seraphin
KP, Melo, AA are players that score from everywhere on the floor. When Lopez is in the game, this reduces the real estate and minimizes their opportunities. Thats why Lopez usually has nobody to pass it to, because his man sags off, guarding the passing lanes. When any of the 4 guys above have the ball in the post, there are more passing lanes, due to double teams. If no double comes, thats a bucket.
I like Lopez and think he's a needed asset. But it's clear that KP is not a normal rookie and he needs that floor space. It also gives Melo and AA room to operate in the post, where Melo can score over SF's.....
But again, when will Fisher grow some balls and just put the best offensive lineup on the floor for most of the game, and see if that makes a difference. I want to see KP start at center, so he can bring the other big out of the paint....create more space.....and use his quickness against slower centers.
rolo is slow but a modern player. He is much better suited for PnR then this stupid triangle and having him in the high post. His efficiency has tanked this season, is that him or the system that we are forcing him into?
Its also because of a number of other factors but it seems like this offense kills bigs efficiency unless you have an all world guard that can wreak havoc on defenses and create wide open looks for your bigs.
You know what we did during that run? We threw that ugly triangle sh1t in the garbage and ran PnR every time down.
mreinman wrote:blkexec wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:The problem is for a young wanna be coach like fisher, he is stucked in the 80s
At first, I thought the problem was Fisher......now I think the real problem is Fisher working in Phil's shadow. I think Fisher is trying too hard to coach like Phil, instead of adapting to the roster at hand.
When your mentor, who taught you everything you know about winning championships, gives 14 mil to Lopez, you almost have no choice but to start him. Lopez and O'quinn are 1980's centers....In todays game, they are backup players most of the time, due to the speed of the game, and the offensive challenges to put the ball in the hole.
But I thought Melo was going to hold KP back....when in fact I think it's Lopez thats causing the offensive problems. He's taking up space on the offensive end that should go to at least 5 other players first.....
KP
Melo
AA
Seraphin
KP, Melo, AA are players that score from everywhere on the floor. When Lopez is in the game, this reduces the real estate and minimizes their opportunities. Thats why Lopez usually has nobody to pass it to, because his man sags off, guarding the passing lanes. When any of the 4 guys above have the ball in the post, there are more passing lanes, due to double teams. If no double comes, thats a bucket.
I like Lopez and think he's a needed asset. But it's clear that KP is not a normal rookie and he needs that floor space. It also gives Melo and AA room to operate in the post, where Melo can score over SF's.....
But again, when will Fisher grow some balls and just put the best offensive lineup on the floor for most of the game, and see if that makes a difference. I want to see KP start at center, so he can bring the other big out of the paint....create more space.....and use his quickness against slower centers.
rolo is slow but a modern player. He is much better suited for PnR then this stupid triangle and having him in the high post. His efficiency has tanked this season, is that him or the system that we are forcing him into?
Its also because of a number of other factors but it seems like this offense kills bigs efficiency unless you have an all world guard that can wreak havoc on defenses and create wide open looks for your bigs.
You know what we did during that run? We threw that ugly triangle sh1t in the garbage and ran PnR every time down.
I would sit Lopez and pair him with Grant off the bench, so they can play PnR. Use the triangle on the aka "small ball" lineup and see how that works. This makes it hard for other teams to game plan against us, if we are using two different types of offensive systems.
PnR linup.....Lopez, Seraphin, Grant, Dwill, Galo
Triangle lineup......KP, Melo, AA, Jose, LT
blkexec wrote:markvmc wrote:blkexec wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:The problem is for a young wanna be coach like fisher, he is stucked in the 80s
But again, when will Fisher grow some balls and just put the best offensive lineup on the floor for most of the game, and see if that makes a difference.
Why would he do that rather than put the best defensive lineup on the floor for most of the game, or the most balanced offense/defense lineup on the floor?
Thats what he's doing now. Thats why Lopez and KP are starting. He's following Phil's twin tower phylosophy, which works on defense, but doesn't work on offense. Time to try something else. We a center thats a 2 way player, which is what you want in your triangle. 1 way players doesn't work on both ends.
The twin-tower line up can work; however, KP is the one who should be in the post with Rolo roaming. RoLo is a turnover waiting to happen; thus, our dudes must abstain from force feeding him the ball. This dude must always look to crash the board instead of trying to score from the post. In the post we need to utilize KP more, because he is smart enough to know that he must use different moves to be a force on offense. The dude can drive and shoot.
In the second half, fisher should look to push the tempo by keeping RoLo on the bench and start Lance.
blkexec wrote:mreinman wrote:blkexec wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:The problem is for a young wanna be coach like fisher, he is stucked in the 80s
At first, I thought the problem was Fisher......now I think the real problem is Fisher working in Phil's shadow. I think Fisher is trying too hard to coach like Phil, instead of adapting to the roster at hand.
When your mentor, who taught you everything you know about winning championships, gives 14 mil to Lopez, you almost have no choice but to start him. Lopez and O'quinn are 1980's centers....In todays game, they are backup players most of the time, due to the speed of the game, and the offensive challenges to put the ball in the hole.
But I thought Melo was going to hold KP back....when in fact I think it's Lopez thats causing the offensive problems. He's taking up space on the offensive end that should go to at least 5 other players first.....
KP
Melo
AA
Seraphin
KP, Melo, AA are players that score from everywhere on the floor. When Lopez is in the game, this reduces the real estate and minimizes their opportunities. Thats why Lopez usually has nobody to pass it to, because his man sags off, guarding the passing lanes. When any of the 4 guys above have the ball in the post, there are more passing lanes, due to double teams. If no double comes, thats a bucket.
I like Lopez and think he's a needed asset. But it's clear that KP is not a normal rookie and he needs that floor space. It also gives Melo and AA room to operate in the post, where Melo can score over SF's.....
But again, when will Fisher grow some balls and just put the best offensive lineup on the floor for most of the game, and see if that makes a difference. I want to see KP start at center, so he can bring the other big out of the paint....create more space.....and use his quickness against slower centers.
rolo is slow but a modern player. He is much better suited for PnR then this stupid triangle and having him in the high post. His efficiency has tanked this season, is that him or the system that we are forcing him into?
Its also because of a number of other factors but it seems like this offense kills bigs efficiency unless you have an all world guard that can wreak havoc on defenses and create wide open looks for your bigs.
You know what we did during that run? We threw that ugly triangle sh1t in the garbage and ran PnR every time down.
I would sit Lopez and pair him with Grant off the bench, so they can play PnR. Use the triangle on the aka "small ball" lineup and see how that works. This makes it hard for other teams to game plan against us, if we are using two different types of offensive systems.
PnR linup.....Lopez, Seraphin, Grant, Dwill, Galo
Triangle lineup......KP, Melo, AA, Jose, LT
can't really run the pnr with that first line up. Nobody can shoot.
melo and KP should be playing PnR all day. How can it be that dirk cannot be defended when he sets picks and Melo does not do this? Melo needs to pick, force a switch / mismatch. Take player in the post, pass as soon as the double comes (this he still refuses to do - he just wont pass out of the post even if all 5 players plus the bench were draped all over him).
AA is actually our best post player so I like him there but he is a piss poor passer though he passed tonight. Outside of AA and Melo (if they were both willing to pass out of the post), we don't have anyone else who should be posting. Seraphin is terrible most of the time, Rolo's hooks should only be seen in black and white, Koq should not be on the team, etc ...
Remember when we tried to force post play / triangle through Dalambert?
