Very impressed with him last night--hes really come a long way and hes ready to breakout. He looks like he can play SG--he can handle really well hes got great form on his shot--hes active aggressive. And by the way most people dont know hes 6-9.. I just checked hes a RFA--and I think we should look into that. Really really good looking player.
You need to remember he was playing against a near Dleague backcourt rostered by the Knicks. He looks awful against most teams, because he isn't really an NBA-caliber player. Not even worth a look if we want to consider ourselves a real franchise going-forward.
SwishAndDish13 wrote:You need to remember he was playing against a near Dleague backcourt rostered by the Knicks. He looks awful against most teams, because he isn't really an NBA-caliber player. Not even worth a look if we want to consider ourselves a real franchise going-forward.
Thats wrong. He was playing mostly against Melo last night. It doesnt take a brain scientist to see the way he moves the way he handles and the way he shoots it at his size.
BRIGGS wrote:SwishAndDish13 wrote:You need to remember he was playing against a near Dleague backcourt rostered by the Knicks. He looks awful against most teams, because he isn't really an NBA-caliber player. Not even worth a look if we want to consider ourselves a real franchise going-forward.
Thats wrong. He was playing mostly against Melo last night. It doesnt take a brain scientist to see the way he moves the way he handles and the way he shoots it at his size.
No it's not! The list of players you like is outrageously long and some have merit but this Luke Babbit thing is complete nonsense. His production (lack of) and genuine lack of ability in 6 years in the league prove that I am right. I am all for thinking outside the box and suggesting players but this doesn't really help our roster or move us in a positive direct. I'm sorry man, but it's an undeniable fact even though you like what you saw last night.
Babbit has had a number of years to prove himself. He has never averaged more than 17MPG, and his career PPG is under 5 pts.
You can never go by one game when evaluating a player, and Babbit is now in his 6th year in the NBA.
In an era where the 3pt shot is prominent, he has yet to given a significant role on a team.
Would I give him the type of money we give Amundson and put him on the end of the bench...perhaps, but I don't see him as a player worthy of significant money.
WaltLongmire wrote:Babbit has had a number of years to prove himself. He has never averaged more than 17MPG, and his career PPG is under 5 pts.You can never go by one game when evaluating a player, and Babbit is now in his 6th year in the NBA.
In an era where the 3pt shot is prominent, he has yet to given a significant role on a team.
Would I give him the type of money we give Amundson and put him on the end of the bench...perhaps, but I don't see him as a player worthy of significant money.
Two things--he came out of college way to early and you know--in the NBA its all about the minutes. If you get a chance and are given the minutes--how can you produce?
Im not saying this guys the next star--Im saying hes a BETTER prospect than guys like Galloway and Sasha--I think hes WAY better. Hes a HIGH quality guy --I think its easy to see where he can be VERY solid off of someone bench with 20 minutes a night. Whats not to like? He certainly can halde the rock well at 6-9 hes got great form--he plays with energy hes smart--hes a player.
I dont know if you can remember--but we got John Starks out of the trash bin at 25 years old. He went on to play well Id say.
Luke Babbitt is one of the worst players - on one of the worst teams in the league. He should NOT even be in the NBA
BRIGGS wrote:Very impressed with him last night--hes really come a long way and hes ready to breakout. He looks like he can play SG--he can handle really well hes got great form on his shot--hes active aggressive. And by the way most people dont know hes 6-9.. I just checked hes a RFA--and I think we should look into that. Really really good looking player.
Oh good another lame Briggs thread...............yawn yawn zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
newyorker4ever wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Very impressed with him last night--hes really come a long way and hes ready to breakout. He looks like he can play SG--he can handle really well hes got great form on his shot--hes active aggressive. And by the way most people dont know hes 6-9.. I just checked hes a RFA--and I think we should look into that. Really really good looking player.
Oh good another lame Briggs thread...............yawn yawn zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
man if you got nothing to add here, please don't. Thanks.
Luke Babbitt could be our new Lance Thomas. I can dig that. We're going to need to keep these floating free agents in mind when we run out of money.
I gotta say though. You guys cry about not playing Grant yet don't give a damn about Cleananthony. A guy like Luke Babbitt finally gets a shot to play big minutes and you guys are like fuck this guy he's been a bum for 6 years. All it takes is an opportunity.
babbitt was a starter the last two seasons but kept losing his job to the legendary dante cunningham. they kept trying to play him because hes an amazing shooter. the problem is he cant do anything else well
in terms of suggestions: i d rather resign lance (we have his bird rights) and we KNOW he can be an adequate 3&D man. use the money we have to focus on that awful backcourt
martin wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Very impressed with him last night--hes really come a long way and hes ready to breakout. He looks like he can play SG--he can handle really well hes got great form on his shot--hes active aggressive. And by the way most people dont know hes 6-9.. I just checked hes a RFA--and I think we should look into that. Really really good looking player.
Oh good another lame Briggs thread...............yawn yawn zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
man if you got nothing to add here, please don't. Thanks.
But i did add something. I let it be known how bored i am of meaningless threads.
callmened wrote:in terms of suggestions: i d rather resign lance (we have his bird rights) and we KNOW he can be an adequate 3&D man. use the money we have to focus on that awful backcourt
man, I've always wondered about LT's defense. I've thought that he is a good help defender, knows positioning but I just don't see him as more than an above average man on man defender. He can certainly move his feet and has the ability to keep up with the smaller players, I've just never been wow'ed
Anyone with two eyes who watched the game saw his skills.For the right price--hes a quality CHEAP player who should continue to improve. Hes a pretty impressive ballhandler for 6-9 and he also guarded Melo pretty well. Melo went 9-23 and some of the shots he hit were tough low %
BRIGGS wrote:SwishAndDish13 wrote:You need to remember he was playing against a near Dleague backcourt rostered by the Knicks. He looks awful against most teams, because he isn't really an NBA-caliber player. Not even worth a look if we want to consider ourselves a real franchise going-forward.
Thats wrong. He was playing mostly against Melo last night. It doesnt take a brain scientist to see the way he moves the way he handles and the way he shoots it at his size.
WHATS A BRAIN SCIENTEST?
martin wrote:callmened wrote:in terms of suggestions: i d rather resign lance (we have his bird rights) and we KNOW he can be an adequate 3&D man. use the money we have to focus on that awful backcourt
man, I've always wondered about LT's defense. I've thought that he is a good help defender, knows positioning but I just don't see him as more than an above average man on man defender. He can certainly move his feet and has the ability to keep up with the smaller players, I've just never been wow'ed
Yeah but he's a good piece to have on the bench cause he can come in and guard the best player on the other team and he can guard multiple positions, he's all energy all the time and his outside shot has gotten much better so i hope we bring him back.
BRIGGS wrote:Very impressed with him last night--hes really come a long way and hes ready to breakout. He looks like he can play SG--he can handle really well hes got great form on his shot--hes active aggressive. And by the way most people dont know hes 6-9.. I just checked hes a RFA--and I think we should look into that. Really really good looking player.
is this just from last night? How are his career stats and how do they project / predict his future?
BRIGGS wrote:Anyone with two eyes who watched the game saw his skills.For the right price--hes a quality CHEAP player who should continue to improve. Hes a pretty impressive ballhandler for 6-9 and he also guarded Melo pretty well. Melo went 9-23 and some of the shots he hit were tough low %
ive been watching dude for over 2 yrs. hes not a good NBA bball player. he can shoot lights out. but he cant do anything else. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE dont go by last nights game. the knicks arent a good team
this is from the New Orleans Pelicans news website (bourbonshots.com) where they review each player:
"Babbitt is nothing more than an end of the bench guy. He is buried behind guys like Pondexter and Cunningham, not to mention any possible new additions."
BRIGGS wrote:Anyone with two eyes who watched the game saw his skills.For the right price--hes a quality CHEAP player who should continue to improve. Hes a pretty impressive ballhandler for 6-9 and he also guarded Melo pretty well. Melo went 9-23 and some of the shots he hit were tough low %
I agree. He's always passed my eye test. I remember having this same conversation last year about Babbitt when I brought his name up. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder on a lot of guys--Ned's never cared for him but I see a good talent. To be honest though, the guy I really want for this role (reserve 3-man that we'll have minutes for) is Solomon Hill. Looking for a Lance Thomas replacement but not looking to pay a premium for it--Lance was having a nice year before he went down but I've never been sold on him. Is Lance really a quality NBA reserve or merely a guy that played well over his head this year at times? When I look around the league for cheap/afterthought-type talent that I believe could really take off with an expanded role, Solomon Hill really pops out at me at this position. Better overall talent level than Lance imo. Younger too and he's much more versatile--I think Hill could legitimately play 2/3 and possibly even some 4 at times--has a real good mix of skill, game, strength and athleticism.. But I've always felt Babbitt could play as well. I just hope we don't get too hung up on the year LT had. Nice year--he'll be due for a raise. And you know what? He deserves it--I just don't like him for more than the vet minimum here. The position I'm taking: not interested in overpaying anyone from this summer's crop of FAs unless it's KD (and he's not leaving OKC). I can understand Demar DeRozan but he's not coming here unless HE wants to leave Toronto. Otherwise, the Raptors will max that dude out including the extra year he can only get there and it'll be a wrap. I'd thank Lance and wish him all the best then go out there and secure better talent for even less. Just that simple. Solomon Hill is one option. So is PJ Hairston (more of a 2--I want him as my starting 2 in fact--but his size/strength at 6'6" 230 tells me he can play some 3 as well). And another guy I really like is Terrico White -- like Hairston at 6'5" 220ish White's a 2G but I think he could play some 3 as well. Playing extremely well in the DL. Just awarded DL player of the week for the 2nd time this season and he's followed that up with another handful of standout games. Decent size, strength, top athleticism and he's quite skilled--everything I'm looking for--flawless jumper (always squared up to the rim/never off balance), puts it on the floor and he can get out in transition. I honestly think White could be our very own Lance Stephenson for less that a 1/10 the price. As far as NBA wings go, Solomon Hill, PJ Hairston and Terrico White are 3 of the top deals out there in terms of value/bang for the buck. No question in my mind. I want all 3.
