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crzymdups @ 4/6/2016 8:13 PM
SocraticBallin22 wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Early just doesn't look like an NBA player to me, I hate to say. He always looks tentative. His jumper looks terrible.

He never has shown me anything. I've always wondered what some people on here that talk about him like he's gonna be a good player for us saw in him.

Nice to judge this poor kid on his second game back in months following getting shot.

I'm just talking about any time I've ever see him play NBA basketball.

I'm not rooting against him, I would love to see something from him. I've just never seen a positive sign from him.

ScoreBot @ 4/6/2016 8:14 PM
2Q - 9:01
NYK 27 CHA 32
crzymdups @ 4/6/2016 8:15 PM
KOQ uses those long arms to commit another flagrant foul.
CrushAlot @ 4/6/2016 8:15 PM
crzymdups wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Early just doesn't look like an NBA player to me, I hate to say. He always looks tentative. His jumper looks terrible.

He never has shown me anything. I've always wondered what some people on here that talk about him like he's gonna be a good player for us saw in him.

Nice to judge this poor kid on his second game back in months following getting shot.

I'm just talking about any time I've ever see him play NBA basketball.

He looked good in the preseason coming out of camp but didn't crack the rotation. I thought he appeared to have done a lot of work on his game. GEtting shot had to have set him back.
SocraticBallin22 @ 4/6/2016 8:15 PM
KOQ starting to grow a reputation for committing flagrant fouls.
nixluva @ 4/6/2016 8:16 PM
crzymdups wrote:
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:This defense is a joke. Rambis is not a good coach.

I wouldn't judge him on this. When he took over as Defensive Coach for Phil they won 2 Titles. They improved defensively.

Can we judge him on the offense or is that also off limits?

Are you gonna at least acknowledge that this roster needs some upgrades. The offense they're running is fine but could use some more talent to make it work better. You know this!

I know they need better talent, but I think the offense they're running is terrible. You know this!

The Hornets do not have that much more talent than the Knicks (when fully healthy) - and yet they're 44-33. Because they're well coached and play a system that suits their talent.

Knicks offense isn't what holds them back! It's the talent at guard IMO.

I thought the Triangle didn't need talent at the guard position?

I don't think it's the offense per se, so much as the coaching specifically. Rambis is terrible. I thought Fisher was pretty good.

Who ever said you don't need talent at guard? You don't need a ball dominant PG but that doesn't mean you can win with scrubs just running the Triangle. Make your shots and the offense would look just fine. Remember we're missing a lot when you don't have the penetrating guards you need in this offense.

SocraticBallin22 @ 4/6/2016 8:16 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Early just doesn't look like an NBA player to me, I hate to say. He always looks tentative. His jumper looks terrible.

He never has shown me anything. I've always wondered what some people on here that talk about him like he's gonna be a good player for us saw in him.

Nice to judge this poor kid on his second game back in months following getting shot.

I'm just talking about any time I've ever see him play NBA basketball.

He looked good in the preseason coming out of camp but didn't crack the rotation. I thought he appeared to have done a lot of work on his game. GEtting shot had to have set him back.

Just the fact that he's back this year and playing in games is a miracle. Just sayin'.

crzymdups @ 4/6/2016 8:17 PM
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:This defense is a joke. Rambis is not a good coach.

I wouldn't judge him on this. When he took over as Defensive Coach for Phil they won 2 Titles. They improved defensively.

Can we judge him on the offense or is that also off limits?

Are you gonna at least acknowledge that this roster needs some upgrades. The offense they're running is fine but could use some more talent to make it work better. You know this!

I know they need better talent, but I think the offense they're running is terrible. You know this!

The Hornets do not have that much more talent than the Knicks (when fully healthy) - and yet they're 44-33. Because they're well coached and play a system that suits their talent.

Knicks offense isn't what holds them back! It's the talent at guard IMO.

I thought the Triangle didn't need talent at the guard position?

I don't think it's the offense per se, so much as the coaching specifically. Rambis is terrible. I thought Fisher was pretty good.

Who ever said you don't need talent at guard? You don't need a ball dominant PG but that doesn't mean you can win with scrubs just running the Triangle. Make your shots and the offense would look just fine. Remember we're missing a lot when you don't have the penetrating guards you need in this offense.

So why has Phil downplayed the need for a PG?

I mean, I think they need a PG, but Phil said that's been overblown. Because of the offense.

newyorker4ever @ 4/6/2016 8:17 PM
SocraticBallin22 wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Early just doesn't look like an NBA player to me, I hate to say. He always looks tentative. His jumper looks terrible.

He never has shown me anything. I've always wondered what some people on here that talk about him like he's gonna be a good player for us saw in him.

Nice to judge this poor kid on his second game back in months following getting shot.


I'm judging him on his time in the NBA which i why i said that i've never seen much from him. Now if i would of said that he's been playing like crap since he's been back from getting shot that would be me judging him on his 2nd game back. Do you understand or should i get more detailed for you???
ScoreBot @ 4/6/2016 8:18 PM
2Q - 8:29
NYK 30 CHA 34
SocraticBallin22 @ 4/6/2016 8:20 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Early just doesn't look like an NBA player to me, I hate to say. He always looks tentative. His jumper looks terrible.

He never has shown me anything. I've always wondered what some people on here that talk about him like he's gonna be a good player for us saw in him.

Nice to judge this poor kid on his second game back in months following getting shot.


I'm judging him on his time in the NBA which i why i said that i've never seen much from him. Now if i would of said that he's been playing like crap since he's been back from getting shot that would be me judging him on his 2nd game back. Do you understand or should i get more detailed for you???

All I'm sayin' is cut the kid some slack; he got shot a few months ago and it's amazing he's playing again this year.

crzymdups @ 4/6/2016 8:20 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Early just doesn't look like an NBA player to me, I hate to say. He always looks tentative. His jumper looks terrible.

He never has shown me anything. I've always wondered what some people on here that talk about him like he's gonna be a good player for us saw in him.

Nice to judge this poor kid on his second game back in months following getting shot.


I'm judging him on his time in the NBA which i why i said that i've never seen much from him. Now if i would of said that he's been playing like crap since he's been back from getting shot that would be me judging him on his 2nd game back. Do you understand or should i get more detailed for you???

Yeah, this. I hope he gets a lot of time in the next four games. But I just really have never gotten the interest in him. He's looked like an average player in summer league. He's never looked ready for the NBA to me. I'm sorry. I am rooting for him, but I just don't know if I see it.

newyorker4ever @ 4/6/2016 8:20 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Early just doesn't look like an NBA player to me, I hate to say. He always looks tentative. His jumper looks terrible.

He never has shown me anything. I've always wondered what some people on here that talk about him like he's gonna be a good player for us saw in him.

Nice to judge this poor kid on his second game back in months following getting shot.

I'm just talking about any time I've ever see him play NBA basketball.

He looked good in the preseason coming out of camp but didn't crack the rotation. I thought he appeared to have done a lot of work on his game. GEtting shot had to have set him back.

By preseason do you mean the summer league?? If so than the summer league is like the d-league where all any of these kids can look good.

nixluva @ 4/6/2016 8:20 PM
crzymdups wrote:
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:This defense is a joke. Rambis is not a good coach.

I wouldn't judge him on this. When he took over as Defensive Coach for Phil they won 2 Titles. They improved defensively.

Can we judge him on the offense or is that also off limits?

Are you gonna at least acknowledge that this roster needs some upgrades. The offense they're running is fine but could use some more talent to make it work better. You know this!

I know they need better talent, but I think the offense they're running is terrible. You know this!

The Hornets do not have that much more talent than the Knicks (when fully healthy) - and yet they're 44-33. Because they're well coached and play a system that suits their talent.

Knicks offense isn't what holds them back! It's the talent at guard IMO.

I thought the Triangle didn't need talent at the guard position?

I don't think it's the offense per se, so much as the coaching specifically. Rambis is terrible. I thought Fisher was pretty good.

Who ever said you don't need talent at guard? You don't need a ball dominant PG but that doesn't mean you can win with scrubs just running the Triangle. Make your shots and the offense would look just fine. Remember we're missing a lot when you don't have the penetrating guards you need in this offense.

So why has Phil downplayed the need for a PG?

I mean, I think they need a PG, but Phil said that's been overblown. Because of the offense.

Right! No need for a Ball Dominant PG! Talented Combo Guards that are SG size is what works best.

SocraticBallin22 @ 4/6/2016 8:21 PM
crzymdups wrote:This is what I'm talking about, I like Courtney Lee


Would not mind Courtney Lee to replace AA if he opts out. He's a younger and a better defender at this point. He would be a good glue guy.

newyorker4ever @ 4/6/2016 8:21 PM
crzymdups wrote:
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:This defense is a joke. Rambis is not a good coach.

I wouldn't judge him on this. When he took over as Defensive Coach for Phil they won 2 Titles. They improved defensively.

Can we judge him on the offense or is that also off limits?

Are you gonna at least acknowledge that this roster needs some upgrades. The offense they're running is fine but could use some more talent to make it work better. You know this!

I know they need better talent, but I think the offense they're running is terrible. You know this!

The Hornets do not have that much more talent than the Knicks (when fully healthy) - and yet they're 44-33. Because they're well coached and play a system that suits their talent.

Knicks offense isn't what holds them back! It's the talent at guard IMO.

I thought the Triangle didn't need talent at the guard position?

I don't think it's the offense per se, so much as the coaching specifically. Rambis is terrible. I thought Fisher was pretty good.

Who ever said you don't need talent at guard? You don't need a ball dominant PG but that doesn't mean you can win with scrubs just running the Triangle. Make your shots and the offense would look just fine. Remember we're missing a lot when you don't have the penetrating guards you need in this offense.

So why has Phil downplayed the need for a PG?

I mean, I think they need a PG, but Phil said that's been overblown. Because of the offense.

Might just be Phil being Phil with his cryptic talk.

ScoreBot @ 4/6/2016 8:22 PM
2Q - 7:10
NYK 34 CHA 34
CrushAlot @ 4/6/2016 8:22 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Early just doesn't look like an NBA player to me, I hate to say. He always looks tentative. His jumper looks terrible.

He never has shown me anything. I've always wondered what some people on here that talk about him like he's gonna be a good player for us saw in him.

Nice to judge this poor kid on his second game back in months following getting shot.

I'm just talking about any time I've ever see him play NBA basketball.

He looked good in the preseason coming out of camp but didn't crack the rotation. I thought he appeared to have done a lot of work on his game. GEtting shot had to have set him back.

By preseason do you mean the summer league?? If so than the summer league is like the d-league where all any of these kids can look good.

No. I meant the preseason.
crzymdups @ 4/6/2016 8:23 PM
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:This defense is a joke. Rambis is not a good coach.

I wouldn't judge him on this. When he took over as Defensive Coach for Phil they won 2 Titles. They improved defensively.

Can we judge him on the offense or is that also off limits?

Are you gonna at least acknowledge that this roster needs some upgrades. The offense they're running is fine but could use some more talent to make it work better. You know this!

I know they need better talent, but I think the offense they're running is terrible. You know this!

The Hornets do not have that much more talent than the Knicks (when fully healthy) - and yet they're 44-33. Because they're well coached and play a system that suits their talent.

Knicks offense isn't what holds them back! It's the talent at guard IMO.

I thought the Triangle didn't need talent at the guard position?

I don't think it's the offense per se, so much as the coaching specifically. Rambis is terrible. I thought Fisher was pretty good.

Who ever said you don't need talent at guard? You don't need a ball dominant PG but that doesn't mean you can win with scrubs just running the Triangle. Make your shots and the offense would look just fine. Remember we're missing a lot when you don't have the penetrating guards you need in this offense.

So why has Phil downplayed the need for a PG?

I mean, I think they need a PG, but Phil said that's been overblown. Because of the offense.

Right! No need for a Ball Dominant PG! Talented Combo Guards that are SG size is what works best.

Right. It's good to have one of those combo guards and then put them next to one of best shooting guards of all time like Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant. That seems to be the key to the Triangle.

newyorker4ever @ 4/6/2016 8:24 PM
SocraticBallin22 wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Early just doesn't look like an NBA player to me, I hate to say. He always looks tentative. His jumper looks terrible.

He never has shown me anything. I've always wondered what some people on here that talk about him like he's gonna be a good player for us saw in him.

Nice to judge this poor kid on his second game back in months following getting shot.


I'm judging him on his time in the NBA which i why i said that i've never seen much from him. Now if i would of said that he's been playing like crap since he's been back from getting shot that would be me judging him on his 2nd game back. Do you understand or should i get more detailed for you???

All I'm sayin' is cut the kid some slack; he got shot a few months ago and it's amazing he's playing again this year.

What the hellz are you talking about?? Nobody is giving the kid hellz like you give certain players/coaches hellz in EVERY SINGLE game thread, i said in ONE post that the kid hasn't ever shown me anything to say he'll be an NBA player which is 100% true.

crzymdups @ 4/6/2016 8:25 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Early just doesn't look like an NBA player to me, I hate to say. He always looks tentative. His jumper looks terrible.

He never has shown me anything. I've always wondered what some people on here that talk about him like he's gonna be a good player for us saw in him.

Nice to judge this poor kid on his second game back in months following getting shot.

I'm just talking about any time I've ever see him play NBA basketball.

He looked good in the preseason coming out of camp but didn't crack the rotation. I thought he appeared to have done a lot of work on his game. GEtting shot had to have set him back.

By preseason do you mean the summer league?? If so than the summer league is like the d-league where all any of these kids can look good.

No. I meant the preseason.

Early had one really good pre-season game. DWill averaged like 20ppg in the preseason though.

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