All I can think of is Harold Melvin & the Bluenotes song 'Bad Luck'.
Just can't account for freak injuries at the wrong time. As bad as it was to see MELO get surgery I have to say it would be worse if we had traded for Blake and this happened. Can't imagine what the NY Media would say about that.
nixluva wrote:Just can't account for freak injuries at the wrong time. As bad as it was to see MELO get surgery I have to say it would be worse if we had traded for Blake and this happened. Can't imagine what the NY Media would say about that.
phil is a genius thst would make you happy nix
dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:Just can't account for freak injuries at the wrong time. As bad as it was to see MELO get surgery I have to say it would be worse if we had traded for Blake and this happened. Can't imagine what the NY Media would say about that.
griffin is 27.
Not my point. I'm saying the media would be all over Phil if he got hurt after trading for him. Shades of McDyess.
nixluva wrote:dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:Just can't account for freak injuries at the wrong time. As bad as it was to see MELO get surgery I have to say it would be worse if we had traded for Blake and this happened. Can't imagine what the NY Media would say about that.
griffin is 27.
Not my point. I'm saying the media would be all over Phil if he got hurt after trading for him. Shades of McDyess.
the mcdyess trade was terrible lets be honest. As big as a phil fan as you are if phil made that trade even you would have to be critical of it right?
StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:Just can't account for freak injuries at the wrong time. As bad as it was to see MELO get surgery I have to say it would be worse if we had traded for Blake and this happened. Can't imagine what the NY Media would say about that.
griffin is 27.
Not my point. I'm saying the media would be all over Phil if he got hurt after trading for him. Shades of McDyess.
the mcdyess trade was terrible lets be honest. As big as a phil fan as you are if phil made that trade even you would have to be critical of it right?
Again my point is that if Phil had traded for Blake and he got injured the NY Media would have a field day with that comparing it to McDyess. They haven't even needed that kind of deal to take shots at Phil so giving them any ammunition would set them off. It's why I'm leery of Conley.
nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:Just can't account for freak injuries at the wrong time. As bad as it was to see MELO get surgery I have to say it would be worse if we had traded for Blake and this happened. Can't imagine what the NY Media would say about that.
griffin is 27.
Not my point. I'm saying the media would be all over Phil if he got hurt after trading for him. Shades of McDyess.
the mcdyess trade was terrible lets be honest. As big as a phil fan as you are if phil made that trade even you would have to be critical of it right?
Again my point is that if Phil had traded for Blake and he got injured the NY Media would have a field day with that comparing it to McDyess. They haven't even needed that kind of deal to take shots at Phil so giving them any ammunition would set them off. It's why I'm leery of Conley.
why so much concern about what the media thinks? Personally i dont care what the media says about the knicks positive or negative. I have my own judgments on the job phil is doing and where th e team is right now
StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:Just can't account for freak injuries at the wrong time. As bad as it was to see MELO get surgery I have to say it would be worse if we had traded for Blake and this happened. Can't imagine what the NY Media would say about that.
griffin is 27.
Not my point. I'm saying the media would be all over Phil if he got hurt after trading for him. Shades of McDyess.
the mcdyess trade was terrible lets be honest. As big as a phil fan as you are if phil made that trade even you would have to be critical of it right?
Again my point is that if Phil had traded for Blake and he got injured the NY Media would have a field day with that comparing it to McDyess. They haven't even needed that kind of deal to take shots at Phil so giving them any ammunition would set them off. It's why I'm leery of Conley.
why so much concern about what the media thinks? Personally i dont care what the media says about the knicks positive or negative. I have my own judgments on the job phil is doing and where th e team is right now
NY Media is the largest and loudest. They can actually influence attitudes. In the past its motivated Dolan to get involved and I don't want that to happen. Constant bad press is not good. There hasn't even been an action taken and the Media is in attack mode, so I just imagined how they would attack if Phil traded for Blake and he got injured. The NY Media would spin it in the worst light.
nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:Just can't account for freak injuries at the wrong time. As bad as it was to see MELO get surgery I have to say it would be worse if we had traded for Blake and this happened. Can't imagine what the NY Media would say about that.
griffin is 27.
Not my point. I'm saying the media would be all over Phil if he got hurt after trading for him. Shades of McDyess.
the mcdyess trade was terrible lets be honest. As big as a phil fan as you are if phil made that trade even you would have to be critical of it right?
Again my point is that if Phil had traded for Blake and he got injured the NY Media would have a field day with that comparing it to McDyess. They haven't even needed that kind of deal to take shots at Phil so giving them any ammunition would set them off. It's why I'm leery of Conley.
why so much concern about what the media thinks? Personally i dont care what the media says about the knicks positive or negative. I have my own judgments on the job phil is doing and where th e team is right now
NY Media is the largest and loudest. They can actually influence attitudes. In the past its motivated Dolan to get involved and I don't want that to happen. Constant bad press is not good. There hasn't even been an action taken and the Media is in attack mode, so I just imagined how they would attack if Phil traded for Blake and he got injured. The NY Media would spin it in the worst light.
I agree. Also, I think you clarified your post and that it was in regards to the media response several posts ago.
nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:Just can't account for freak injuries at the wrong time. As bad as it was to see MELO get surgery I have to say it would be worse if we had traded for Blake and this happened. Can't imagine what the NY Media would say about that.
griffin is 27.
Not my point. I'm saying the media would be all over Phil if he got hurt after trading for him. Shades of McDyess.
the mcdyess trade was terrible lets be honest. As big as a phil fan as you are if phil made that trade even you would have to be critical of it right?
Again my point is that if Phil had traded for Blake and he got injured the NY Media would have a field day with that comparing it to McDyess. They haven't even needed that kind of deal to take shots at Phil so giving them any ammunition would set them off. It's why I'm leery of Conley.
why so much concern about what the media thinks? Personally i dont care what the media says about the knicks positive or negative. I have my own judgments on the job phil is doing and where th e team is right now
NY Media is the largest and loudest. They can actually influence attitudes. In the past its motivated Dolan to get involved and I don't want that to happen. Constant bad press is not good. There hasn't even been an action taken and the Media is in attack mode, so I just imagined how they would attack if Phil traded for Blake and he got injured. The NY Media would spin it in the worst light.
its simple....win and the press will be more positive. Its the case for most nba teams. Phil is a all time great coach i have always said that. However as a executive the verdict is still up in the air. Dont worry if the knicks start winning then phil and the knicks Will get great press clippings. I dont think it influences free agents to be completely honest.
StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:Just can't account for freak injuries at the wrong time. As bad as it was to see MELO get surgery I have to say it would be worse if we had traded for Blake and this happened. Can't imagine what the NY Media would say about that.
griffin is 27.
Not my point. I'm saying the media would be all over Phil if he got hurt after trading for him. Shades of McDyess.
the mcdyess trade was terrible lets be honest. As big as a phil fan as you are if phil made that trade even you would have to be critical of it right?
Again my point is that if Phil had traded for Blake and he got injured the NY Media would have a field day with that comparing it to McDyess. They haven't even needed that kind of deal to take shots at Phil so giving them any ammunition would set them off. It's why I'm leery of Conley.
why so much concern about what the media thinks? Personally i dont care what the media says about the knicks positive or negative. I have my own judgments on the job phil is doing and where th e team is right now
NY Media is the largest and loudest. They can actually influence attitudes. In the past its motivated Dolan to get involved and I don't want that to happen. Constant bad press is not good. There hasn't even been an action taken and the Media is in attack mode, so I just imagined how they would attack if Phil traded for Blake and he got injured. The NY Media would spin it in the worst light.
its simple....win and the press will be more positive. Its the case for most nba teams. Phil is a all time great coach i have always said that. However as a executive the verdict is still up in the air. Dont worry if the knicks start winning then phil and the knicks Will get great press clippings. I dont think it influences free agents to be completely honest.
I think perhaps you aren't getting me. When the chorus of negative NY Media gets loud enough it's caused Dolan to panic and do stupid things. I don't want that to happen. They never let this team go thru the process before they start ripping the team apart. Phil just rebuilt this roster so it's not warranted to have so much nasty press. God forbid they ever tried to do what Hinkie was doing!
I do think it also intimidates some free agents. This city has chewed up and spit out a lot of people over the years.
Phil is on a good path. The roster has fewer holes to fill this summer. We need for Dolan to let Phil do what he's doing without interference. Let him finish what he's started.
nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:Just can't account for freak injuries at the wrong time. As bad as it was to see MELO get surgery I have to say it would be worse if we had traded for Blake and this happened. Can't imagine what the NY Media would say about that.
griffin is 27.
Not my point. I'm saying the media would be all over Phil if he got hurt after trading for him. Shades of McDyess.
the mcdyess trade was terrible lets be honest. As big as a phil fan as you are if phil made that trade even you would have to be critical of it right?
Again my point is that if Phil had traded for Blake and he got injured the NY Media would have a field day with that comparing it to McDyess. They haven't even needed that kind of deal to take shots at Phil so giving them any ammunition would set them off. It's why I'm leery of Conley.
why so much concern about what the media thinks? Personally i dont care what the media says about the knicks positive or negative. I have my own judgments on the job phil is doing and where th e team is right now
NY Media is the largest and loudest. They can actually influence attitudes. In the past its motivated Dolan to get involved and I don't want that to happen. Constant bad press is not good. There hasn't even been an action taken and the Media is in attack mode, so I just imagined how they would attack if Phil traded for Blake and he got injured. The NY Media would spin it in the worst light.
its simple....win and the press will be more positive. Its the case for most nba teams. Phil is a all time great coach i have always said that. However as a executive the verdict is still up in the air. Dont worry if the knicks start winning then phil and the knicks Will get great press clippings. I dont think it influences free agents to be completely honest.
I think perhaps you aren't getting me. When the chorus of negative NY Media gets loud enough it's caused Dolan to panic and do stupid things. I don't want that to happen. They never let this team go thru the process before they start ripping the team apart. Phil just rebuilt this roster so it's not warranted to have so much nasty press. God forbid they ever tried to do what Hinkie was doing!
I do think it also intimidates some free agents. This city has chewed up and spit out a lot of people over the years.
Phil is on a good path. The roster has fewer holes to fill this summer. We need for Dolan to let Phil do what he's doing without interference. Let him finish what he's started.
the media is not going to give Phil a free pass cause he has 11 non GM rings. Exactly like StarksEwing1 stated ... if phil does a good job he will get great press and be a media darling. If he continues to do a bad job then they will beat him up especially if he continues acting like a smug azz.
I thought there was news on Blake. NY media sucks. Got it. See the home page if you have any doubts.
mreinman wrote:nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:Just can't account for freak injuries at the wrong time. As bad as it was to see MELO get surgery I have to say it would be worse if we had traded for Blake and this happened. Can't imagine what the NY Media would say about that.
griffin is 27.
Not my point. I'm saying the media would be all over Phil if he got hurt after trading for him. Shades of McDyess.
the mcdyess trade was terrible lets be honest. As big as a phil fan as you are if phil made that trade even you would have to be critical of it right?
Again my point is that if Phil had traded for Blake and he got injured the NY Media would have a field day with that comparing it to McDyess. They haven't even needed that kind of deal to take shots at Phil so giving them any ammunition would set them off. It's why I'm leery of Conley.
why so much concern about what the media thinks? Personally i dont care what the media says about the knicks positive or negative. I have my own judgments on the job phil is doing and where th e team is right now
NY Media is the largest and loudest. They can actually influence attitudes. In the past its motivated Dolan to get involved and I don't want that to happen. Constant bad press is not good. There hasn't even been an action taken and the Media is in attack mode, so I just imagined how they would attack if Phil traded for Blake and he got injured. The NY Media would spin it in the worst light.
its simple....win and the press will be more positive. Its the case for most nba teams. Phil is a all time great coach i have always said that. However as a executive the verdict is still up in the air. Dont worry if the knicks start winning then phil and the knicks Will get great press clippings. I dont think it influences free agents to be completely honest.
I think perhaps you aren't getting me. When the chorus of negative NY Media gets loud enough it's caused Dolan to panic and do stupid things. I don't want that to happen. They never let this team go thru the process before they start ripping the team apart. Phil just rebuilt this roster so it's not warranted to have so much nasty press. God forbid they ever tried to do what Hinkie was doing!
I do think it also intimidates some free agents. This city has chewed up and spit out a lot of people over the years.
Phil is on a good path. The roster has fewer holes to fill this summer. We need for Dolan to let Phil do what he's doing without interference. Let him finish what he's started.
the media is not going to give Phil a free pass cause he has 11 non GM rings. Exactly like StarksEwing1 stated ... if phil does a good job he will get great press and be a media darling. If he continues to do a bad job then they will beat him up especially if he continues acting like a smug azz.
Phil has 11 rings, as you accurately stated, what's your excuse?
Sports writers are the biggest pieces of shit in NY. Bunch of scumbags that hate anyone that has a better life then them.(So Everyone). Point was that no matter how logical, good or smart a move/decision is, the media will crap on it if it doesn't turn out perfect. Regardless if bad luck or improbable events are the cause. And winning doesn't always stop the miserable from complaining.
StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:Just can't account for freak injuries at the wrong time. As bad as it was to see MELO get surgery I have to say it would be worse if we had traded for Blake and this happened. Can't imagine what the NY Media would say about that.
griffin is 27.
Not my point. I'm saying the media would be all over Phil if he got hurt after trading for him. Shades of McDyess.
the mcdyess trade was terrible lets be honest. As big as a phil fan as you are if phil made that trade even you would have to be critical of it right?
Again my point is that if Phil had traded for Blake and he got injured the NY Media would have a field day with that comparing it to McDyess. They haven't even needed that kind of deal to take shots at Phil so giving them any ammunition would set them off. It's why I'm leery of Conley.
why so much concern about what the media thinks? Personally i dont care what the media says about the knicks positive or negative. I have my own judgments on the job phil is doing and where th e team is right now
NY Media is the largest and loudest. They can actually influence attitudes. In the past its motivated Dolan to get involved and I don't want that to happen. Constant bad press is not good. There hasn't even been an action taken and the Media is in attack mode, so I just imagined how they would attack if Phil traded for Blake and he got injured. The NY Media would spin it in the worst light.
its simple....win and the press will be more positive. Its the case for most nba teams. Phil is a all time great coach i have always said that. However as a executive the verdict is still up in the air. Dont worry if the knicks start winning then phil and the knicks Will get great press clippings. I dont think it influences free agents to be completely honest.
The press was positive for the first 40 games.
nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:Just can't account for freak injuries at the wrong time. As bad as it was to see MELO get surgery I have to say it would be worse if we had traded for Blake and this happened. Can't imagine what the NY Media would say about that.
griffin is 27.
Not my point. I'm saying the media would be all over Phil if he got hurt after trading for him. Shades of McDyess.
the mcdyess trade was terrible lets be honest. As big as a phil fan as you are if phil made that trade even you would have to be critical of it right?
Again my point is that if Phil had traded for Blake and he got injured the NY Media would have a field day with that comparing it to McDyess. They haven't even needed that kind of deal to take shots at Phil so giving them any ammunition would set them off. It's why I'm leery of Conley.
why so much concern about what the media thinks? Personally i dont care what the media says about the knicks positive or negative. I have my own judgments on the job phil is doing and where th e team is right now
NY Media is the largest and loudest. They can actually influence attitudes. In the past its motivated Dolan to get involved and I don't want that to happen. Constant bad press is not good. There hasn't even been an action taken and the Media is in attack mode, so I just imagined how they would attack if Phil traded for Blake and he got injured. The NY Media would spin it in the worst light.
its simple....win and the press will be more positive. Its the case for most nba teams. Phil is a all time great coach i have always said that. However as a executive the verdict is still up in the air. Dont worry if the knicks start winning then phil and the knicks Will get great press clippings. I dont think it influences free agents to be completely honest.
I think perhaps you aren't getting me. When the chorus of negative NY Media gets loud enough it's caused Dolan to panic and do stupid things. I don't want that to happen. They never let this team go thru the process before they start ripping the team apart. Phil just rebuilt this roster so it's not warranted to have so much nasty press. God forbid they ever tried to do what Hinkie was doing!
I do think it also intimidates some free agents. This city has chewed up and spit out a lot of people over the years.
Phil is on a good path. The roster has fewer holes to fill this summer. We need for Dolan to let Phil do what he's doing without interference. Let him finish what he's started.
I do get you. You have always been a very optimistic and positive knicks fan and I think that's terrific I honestly do. But not everything is terrific with the knicks. There have been a lot of rough times the past 16 years. Like I said before I don't necessarily agree with the media but the knicks need to start winning. That's what would create more buzz and that's what will make new York an attractive place to be. So far I have liked what Phil has done for the most part BUT he has alos made some mistakes and still hasn't proven he can build a winner...hopefully he does that for our sake
mreinman wrote:nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:Just can't account for freak injuries at the wrong time. As bad as it was to see MELO get surgery I have to say it would be worse if we had traded for Blake and this happened. Can't imagine what the NY Media would say about that.
griffin is 27.
Not my point. I'm saying the media would be all over Phil if he got hurt after trading for him. Shades of McDyess.
the mcdyess trade was terrible lets be honest. As big as a phil fan as you are if phil made that trade even you would have to be critical of it right?
Again my point is that if Phil had traded for Blake and he got injured the NY Media would have a field day with that comparing it to McDyess. They haven't even needed that kind of deal to take shots at Phil so giving them any ammunition would set them off. It's why I'm leery of Conley.
why so much concern about what the media thinks? Personally i dont care what the media says about the knicks positive or negative. I have my own judgments on the job phil is doing and where th e team is right now
NY Media is the largest and loudest. They can actually influence attitudes. In the past its motivated Dolan to get involved and I don't want that to happen. Constant bad press is not good. There hasn't even been an action taken and the Media is in attack mode, so I just imagined how they would attack if Phil traded for Blake and he got injured. The NY Media would spin it in the worst light.
its simple....win and the press will be more positive. Its the case for most nba teams. Phil is a all time great coach i have always said that. However as a executive the verdict is still up in the air. Dont worry if the knicks start winning then phil and the knicks Will get great press clippings. I dont think it influences free agents to be completely honest.
I think perhaps you aren't getting me. When the chorus of negative NY Media gets loud enough it's caused Dolan to panic and do stupid things. I don't want that to happen. They never let this team go thru the process before they start ripping the team apart. Phil just rebuilt this roster so it's not warranted to have so much nasty press. God forbid they ever tried to do what Hinkie was doing!
I do think it also intimidates some free agents. This city has chewed up and spit out a lot of people over the years.
Phil is on a good path. The roster has fewer holes to fill this summer. We need for Dolan to let Phil do what he's doing without interference. Let him finish what he's started.
the media is not going to give Phil a free pass cause he has 11 non GM rings. Exactly like StarksEwing1 stated ... if phil does a good job he will get great press and be a media darling. If he continues to do a bad job then they will beat him up especially if he continues acting like a smug azz.
Exactly. Like any job in life you need to prove yourself and then you will get accolades and compliments
StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:Just can't account for freak injuries at the wrong time. As bad as it was to see MELO get surgery I have to say it would be worse if we had traded for Blake and this happened. Can't imagine what the NY Media would say about that.
griffin is 27.
Not my point. I'm saying the media would be all over Phil if he got hurt after trading for him. Shades of McDyess.
the mcdyess trade was terrible lets be honest. As big as a phil fan as you are if phil made that trade even you would have to be critical of it right?
Again my point is that if Phil had traded for Blake and he got injured the NY Media would have a field day with that comparing it to McDyess. They haven't even needed that kind of deal to take shots at Phil so giving them any ammunition would set them off. It's why I'm leery of Conley.
why so much concern about what the media thinks? Personally i dont care what the media says about the knicks positive or negative. I have my own judgments on the job phil is doing and where th e team is right now
NY Media is the largest and loudest. They can actually influence attitudes. In the past its motivated Dolan to get involved and I don't want that to happen. Constant bad press is not good. There hasn't even been an action taken and the Media is in attack mode, so I just imagined how they would attack if Phil traded for Blake and he got injured. The NY Media would spin it in the worst light.
its simple....win and the press will be more positive. Its the case for most nba teams. Phil is a all time great coach i have always said that. However as a executive the verdict is still up in the air. Dont worry if the knicks start winning then phil and the knicks Will get great press clippings. I dont think it influences free agents to be completely honest.
I think perhaps you aren't getting me. When the chorus of negative NY Media gets loud enough it's caused Dolan to panic and do stupid things. I don't want that to happen. They never let this team go thru the process before they start ripping the team apart. Phil just rebuilt this roster so it's not warranted to have so much nasty press. God forbid they ever tried to do what Hinkie was doing!
I do think it also intimidates some free agents. This city has chewed up and spit out a lot of people over the years.
Phil is on a good path. The roster has fewer holes to fill this summer. We need for Dolan to let Phil do what he's doing without interference. Let him finish what he's started.
I do get you. You have always been a very optimistic and positive knicks fan and I think that's terrific I honestly do. But not everything is terrific with the knicks. There have been a lot of rough times the past 16 years. Like I said before I don't necessarily agree with the media but the knicks need to start winning. That's what would create more buzz and that's what will make new York an attractive place to be. So far I have liked what Phil has done for the most part BUT he has alos made some mistakes and still hasn't proven he can build a winner...hopefully he does that for our sake
The media is just very unrealistic. I don't know why they think its easy to rebuild a team with no draft picks
Jmpasq wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:Just can't account for freak injuries at the wrong time. As bad as it was to see MELO get surgery I have to say it would be worse if we had traded for Blake and this happened. Can't imagine what the NY Media would say about that.
griffin is 27.
Not my point. I'm saying the media would be all over Phil if he got hurt after trading for him. Shades of McDyess.
the mcdyess trade was terrible lets be honest. As big as a phil fan as you are if phil made that trade even you would have to be critical of it right?
Again my point is that if Phil had traded for Blake and he got injured the NY Media would have a field day with that comparing it to McDyess. They haven't even needed that kind of deal to take shots at Phil so giving them any ammunition would set them off. It's why I'm leery of Conley.
why so much concern about what the media thinks? Personally i dont care what the media says about the knicks positive or negative. I have my own judgments on the job phil is doing and where th e team is right now
NY Media is the largest and loudest. They can actually influence attitudes. In the past its motivated Dolan to get involved and I don't want that to happen. Constant bad press is not good. There hasn't even been an action taken and the Media is in attack mode, so I just imagined how they would attack if Phil traded for Blake and he got injured. The NY Media would spin it in the worst light.
its simple....win and the press will be more positive. Its the case for most nba teams. Phil is a all time great coach i have always said that. However as a executive the verdict is still up in the air. Dont worry if the knicks start winning then phil and the knicks Will get great press clippings. I dont think it influences free agents to be completely honest.
The press was positive for the first 40 games.
Exactly, and they were giving phil a lot of cred, and phil stayed completely under the radar.
