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It's cool that the Knicks finally have some draft picks this year. They have their own 1st rounder and Houston's and Chicago's 2nd rounder. I thought it would be good to talk about some prospects who project in the Knicks' draft range since college basketball has started.

Some guys i like:

OG Anunoby: Right now he's projected late lottery/mid 1st round. He's 6-8 240 with a 7'6 wingspan. He's athletic, can shoot, and defend. In a weaker draft he goes top 10 for sure because of his 3-and-D ability. He's a combo forward who would fit nicely next to Porzingis and Melo, similar to what we expect from Lance Thomas, except Anunoby will probably be much better. He is getting Kawhi Leonard comparisons because of his physical profile, which obviously isn't fair, but i could see him similar to a guy like Jae Crowder or Winslow, or as mentioned before, a significantly better Thomas. I think if you get a high quality role player in the 10-20 range, you did well. He should become that.

Grayson Allen: Every year there's a guy who hangs around in college basketball, has a great college career, but because he has been on the radar so long, people focus on what he can't do and forget what he can do. Allen is that type of guy. He can shoot, pass, and is tough, but scouts will be too focused on his lack of size and lateral quickness. But he probably turns out to be a pretty good NBA SG.

Tyler Lydon: Another combo forward who can shoot, rebound, and block shots. That combination would be the type of player you can put next to KP in a big lineup, or a smaller one.

Some 2nd round picks:

I don't see any PGs i would draft in the first round, as the 4 real good ones are projected to go top 10, and then there's a huge drop off. But Melo Trimble or Monte Morris could be good 2nd round prospects as future backup PGs. Alec Peters and Jabari Bird are 2 shooters who can always find a place in the league. The key in the 2nd round is to find guys with a great NBA skill and hope the rest of their game develops enough to be passable in other areas.

It's early! But this is the silver lining to this season - if it doesn't all come together with this group, we can have a nice draft pick and add a good young player next to KP.

I like OG Anunoby a lot. Very curious to see more from him.

There are also a lot of good guards in this draft, which I feel we should look at. I like De'Aaron Fox a lot and I'm curious about Rawle Alkins

We could really use a young agile SF or guard of any kind - I'm not sold on our current PGs being ones we can count on for more than a few years.

crzymdups wrote:It's early! But this is the silver lining to this season - if it doesn't all come together with this group, we can have a nice draft pick and add a good young player next to KP.

I like OG Anunoby a lot. Very curious to see more from him.

There are also a lot of good guards in this draft, which I feel we should look at. I like De'Aaron Fox a lot and I'm curious about Rawle Alkins

We could really use a young agile SF or guard of any kind - I'm not sold on our current PGs being ones we can count on for more than a few years.

I have a feeling that Anunoby is going to play his way out of our draft position. He's the type of player who fits today's game in the NBA so well. Everyone is trying to find that next Leonard. We need to find a good young player to add next to Porzingis though. We need to get this right. We have time as he just turned 21, but i don't want it to turn into an Anthony Davis situation, where suddenly Porzingis is 24 years old and there is no progress. We can run with the current group we have, but absolutely need to be productive with each 1st round pick. I have always felt we can do this without tanking. It doesn't need to be one extreme or the other. You can build a team of vets and still build for the future at the same time, but you need to be resourceful to find role players and connect on each 1st round pick.

Knixkik wrote:

crzymdups wrote:It's early! But this is the silver lining to this season - if it doesn't all come together with this group, we can have a nice draft pick and add a good young player next to KP.

I like OG Anunoby a lot. Very curious to see more from him.

There are also a lot of good guards in this draft, which I feel we should look at. I like De'Aaron Fox a lot and I'm curious about Rawle Alkins

We could really use a young agile SF or guard of any kind - I'm not sold on our current PGs being ones we can count on for more than a few years.

I have a feeling that Anunoby is going to play his way out of our draft position. He's the type of player who fits today's game in the NBA so well. Everyone is trying to find that next Leonard. We need to find a good young player to add next to Porzingis though. We need to get this right. We have time as he just turned 21, but i don't want it to turn into an Anthony Davis situation, where suddenly Porzingis is 24 years old and there is no progress. We can run with the current group we have, but absolutely need to be productive with each 1st round pick. I have always felt we can do this without tanking. It doesn't need to be one extreme or the other. You can build a team of vets and still build for the future at the same time, but you need to be resourceful to find role players and connect on each 1st round pick.

The way we are playing, we'll be in line for a top 5/10 pick.

Knixkik wrote:

crzymdups wrote:It's early! But this is the silver lining to this season - if it doesn't all come together with this group, we can have a nice draft pick and add a good young player next to KP.

I like OG Anunoby a lot. Very curious to see more from him.

There are also a lot of good guards in this draft, which I feel we should look at. I like De'Aaron Fox a lot and I'm curious about Rawle Alkins

We could really use a young agile SF or guard of any kind - I'm not sold on our current PGs being ones we can count on for more than a few years.

I have a feeling that Anunoby is going to play his way out of our draft position. He's the type of player who fits today's game in the NBA so well. Everyone is trying to find that next Leonard. We need to find a good young player to add next to Porzingis though. We need to get this right. We have time as he just turned 21, but i don't want it to turn into an Anthony Davis situation, where suddenly Porzingis is 24 years old and there is no progress. We can run with the current group we have, but absolutely need to be productive with each 1st round pick. I have always felt we can do this without tanking. It doesn't need to be one extreme or the other. You can build a team of vets and still build for the future at the same time, but you need to be resourceful to find role players and connect on each 1st round pick.

Look at the relatively quick turn around of the Lakers. They got Randle in 2014, traded cash for pick 46 to get Jordan Clarkson, D'Angelo Russell and Nance in 2015, Brandon Ingram in 2016, made some very modest FA signings, and they look like they have a bright future.

We need to make some good picks in 2017 and 2018 and we can be right back in this. But we need several years of good picks, not just one. We got the home run in KP, now we need a few more base hits and maybe a double or two. Wouldn't mind another home run either.

crzymdups wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

crzymdups wrote:It's early! But this is the silver lining to this season - if it doesn't all come together with this group, we can have a nice draft pick and add a good young player next to KP.

I like OG Anunoby a lot. Very curious to see more from him.

There are also a lot of good guards in this draft, which I feel we should look at. I like De'Aaron Fox a lot and I'm curious about Rawle Alkins

We could really use a young agile SF or guard of any kind - I'm not sold on our current PGs being ones we can count on for more than a few years.

I have a feeling that Anunoby is going to play his way out of our draft position. He's the type of player who fits today's game in the NBA so well. Everyone is trying to find that next Leonard. We need to find a good young player to add next to Porzingis though. We need to get this right. We have time as he just turned 21, but i don't want it to turn into an Anthony Davis situation, where suddenly Porzingis is 24 years old and there is no progress. We can run with the current group we have, but absolutely need to be productive with each 1st round pick. I have always felt we can do this without tanking. It doesn't need to be one extreme or the other. You can build a team of vets and still build for the future at the same time, but you need to be resourceful to find role players and connect on each 1st round pick.

Look at the relatively quick turn around of the Lakers. They got Randle in 2014, traded cash for pick 46 to get Jordan Clarkson, D'Angelo Russell and Nance in 2015, Brandon Ingram in 2016, made some very modest FA signings, and they look like they have a bright future.

We need to make some good picks in 2017 and 2018 and we can be right back in this. But we need several years of good picks, not just one. We got the home run in KP, now we need a few more base hits and maybe a double or two. Wouldn't mind another home run either.

The key for the Lakers was doing well with every pick. Nance and Clarkson were later picks, and are good role players. They have drafted 5 quality players in the last 3 drafts. We need to hit with our picks. With 2 2nd round picks, we need one of them to turn into a quality role player. The 1st rounder has to turn into an eventual starting player. Lakers lack a Porzingis-level player, but have a couple of guys with good potential, so they seem to be in good shape.

I think a quality off the bench scorer in the mold of a SF or a potential guard to replace Rose ought to be our priority.
Couple of guards I like:
Lonzo Ball
Dennis Smith
Markelle Fultz
Isiah Briscoe
Deaaron Fox

I think this particular group of guys have potential to be future allstars one day. All of those players play with great speed, passing ability, athleticism, and can shoot a little.

I also am really a fan of Jayson Tatum and Miles Bridges, I think they are natural smooth scorers in the mold of Melo/Tobias Harris.
Tommorow is Duke vs Kansas and I think Jayson Tatum should be healthy to play that game

Knixkik wrote:It's cool that the Knicks finally have some draft picks this year. They have their own 1st rounder and Houston's and Chicago's 2nd rounder. I thought it would be good to talk about some prospects who project in the Knicks' draft range since college basketball has started.

Some guys i like:

OG Anunoby: Right now he's projected late lottery/mid 1st round. He's 6-8 240 with a 7'6 wingspan. He's athletic, can shoot, and defend. In a weaker draft he goes top 10 for sure because of his 3-and-D ability. He's a combo forward who would fit nicely next to Porzingis and Melo, similar to what we expect from Lance Thomas, except Anunoby will probably be much better. He is getting Kawhi Leonard comparisons because of his physical profile, which obviously isn't fair, but i could see him similar to a guy like Jae Crowder or Winslow, or as mentioned before, a significantly better Thomas. I think if you get a high quality role player in the 10-20 range, you did well. He should become that.

Grayson Allen: Every year there's a guy who hangs around in college basketball, has a great college career, but because he has been on the radar so long, people focus on what he can't do and forget what he can do. Allen is that type of guy. He can shoot, pass, and is tough, but scouts will be too focused on his lack of size and lateral quickness. But he probably turns out to be a pretty good NBA SG.

Tyler Lydon: Another combo forward who can shoot, rebound, and block shots. That combination would be the type of player you can put next to KP in a big lineup, or a smaller one.

Some 2nd round picks:

I don't see any PGs i would draft in the first round, as the 4 real good ones are projected to go top 10, and then there's a huge drop off. But Melo Trimble or Monte Morris could be good 2nd round prospects as future backup PGs. Alec Peters and Jabari Bird are 2 shooters who can always find a place in the league. The key in the 2nd round is to find guys with a great NBA skill and hope the rest of their game develops enough to be passable in other areas.

Allen would likely go second round no?

TPercy wrote:I think a quality off the bench scorer in the mold of a SF or a potential guard to replace Rose ought to be our priority.
Couple of guards I like:
Lonzo Ball
Dennis Smith
Markelle Fultz
Isiah Briscoe
Deaaron Fox

I think this particular group of guys have potential to be future allstars one day. All of those players play with great speed, passing ability, athleticism, and can shoot a little.

I also am really a fan of Jayson Tatum and Miles Bridges, I think they are natural smooth scorers in the mold of Melo/Tobias Harris.
Tommorow is Duke vs Kansas and I think Jayson Tatum should be healthy to play that game

yeah, I like all those guys.

the good news is it seems like a deep draft.

whether we have pick 7 or pick 17, we should get a good player.

crzymdups wrote:

TPercy wrote:I think a quality off the bench scorer in the mold of a SF or a potential guard to replace Rose ought to be our priority.
Couple of guards I like:
Lonzo Ball
Dennis Smith
Markelle Fultz
Isiah Briscoe
Deaaron Fox

I think this particular group of guys have potential to be future allstars one day. All of those players play with great speed, passing ability, athleticism, and can shoot a little.

I also am really a fan of Jayson Tatum and Miles Bridges, I think they are natural smooth scorers in the mold of Melo/Tobias Harris.
Tommorow is Duke vs Kansas and I think Jayson Tatum should be healthy to play that game

yeah, I like all those guys.

the good news is it seems like a deep draft.

whether we have pick 7 or pick 17, we should get a good player.

Most definitely so. Hell if our season turns out to be a bust midway through, then we should try to acquire as many picks as possible because this draft is our chance to put together a great back court.

TPercy wrote:

Knixkik wrote:It's cool that the Knicks finally have some draft picks this year. They have their own 1st rounder and Houston's and Chicago's 2nd rounder. I thought it would be good to talk about some prospects who project in the Knicks' draft range since college basketball has started.

Some guys i like:

OG Anunoby: Right now he's projected late lottery/mid 1st round. He's 6-8 240 with a 7'6 wingspan. He's athletic, can shoot, and defend. In a weaker draft he goes top 10 for sure because of his 3-and-D ability. He's a combo forward who would fit nicely next to Porzingis and Melo, similar to what we expect from Lance Thomas, except Anunoby will probably be much better. He is getting Kawhi Leonard comparisons because of his physical profile, which obviously isn't fair, but i could see him similar to a guy like Jae Crowder or Winslow, or as mentioned before, a significantly better Thomas. I think if you get a high quality role player in the 10-20 range, you did well. He should become that.

Grayson Allen: Every year there's a guy who hangs around in college basketball, has a great college career, but because he has been on the radar so long, people focus on what he can't do and forget what he can do. Allen is that type of guy. He can shoot, pass, and is tough, but scouts will be too focused on his lack of size and lateral quickness. But he probably turns out to be a pretty good NBA SG.

Tyler Lydon: Another combo forward who can shoot, rebound, and block shots. That combination would be the type of player you can put next to KP in a big lineup, or a smaller one.

Some 2nd round picks:

I don't see any PGs i would draft in the first round, as the 4 real good ones are projected to go top 10, and then there's a huge drop off. But Melo Trimble or Monte Morris could be good 2nd round prospects as future backup PGs. Alec Peters and Jabari Bird are 2 shooters who can always find a place in the league. The key in the 2nd round is to find guys with a great NBA skill and hope the rest of their game develops enough to be passable in other areas.

Allen would likely go second round no?

He's currently projected as a 1st rounder, but things can always change.

Knixkik wrote:

TPercy wrote:

Knixkik wrote:It's cool that the Knicks finally have some draft picks this year. They have their own 1st rounder and Houston's and Chicago's 2nd rounder. I thought it would be good to talk about some prospects who project in the Knicks' draft range since college basketball has started.

Some guys i like:

OG Anunoby: Right now he's projected late lottery/mid 1st round. He's 6-8 240 with a 7'6 wingspan. He's athletic, can shoot, and defend. In a weaker draft he goes top 10 for sure because of his 3-and-D ability. He's a combo forward who would fit nicely next to Porzingis and Melo, similar to what we expect from Lance Thomas, except Anunoby will probably be much better. He is getting Kawhi Leonard comparisons because of his physical profile, which obviously isn't fair, but i could see him similar to a guy like Jae Crowder or Winslow, or as mentioned before, a significantly better Thomas. I think if you get a high quality role player in the 10-20 range, you did well. He should become that.

Grayson Allen: Every year there's a guy who hangs around in college basketball, has a great college career, but because he has been on the radar so long, people focus on what he can't do and forget what he can do. Allen is that type of guy. He can shoot, pass, and is tough, but scouts will be too focused on his lack of size and lateral quickness. But he probably turns out to be a pretty good NBA SG.

Tyler Lydon: Another combo forward who can shoot, rebound, and block shots. That combination would be the type of player you can put next to KP in a big lineup, or a smaller one.

Some 2nd round picks:

I don't see any PGs i would draft in the first round, as the 4 real good ones are projected to go top 10, and then there's a huge drop off. But Melo Trimble or Monte Morris could be good 2nd round prospects as future backup PGs. Alec Peters and Jabari Bird are 2 shooters who can always find a place in the league. The key in the 2nd round is to find guys with a great NBA skill and hope the rest of their game develops enough to be passable in other areas.

Allen would likely go second round no?

He's currently projected as a 1st rounder, but things can always change.

A lot will change by March - the conference schedule hasn't even started yet, let along conference championship play, and march madness. Those things always impact draft position. And there are usually a bunch of Euros who pop up by then, too.

Frank Jackson PG for Duke

I dont know about Knick prospect but a late 2nd rd sleeper pick I think I may have witnessed tonight a 6-3+ PG from Northeastern Named T J Williams. Smooth PG good passer tight ball-handler not overly athletic but gets where he wants to go and makes plays.

Do you see the Knicks resigning Rose or is he a rental? Because that really effects what you decide to take with that first round pick. I like Kp and I like Hernangomez, Baker and don't forget Randle. So I think we have options for the future here, depends upon the fate of whether Rose resigns and whether Melo decides to move from Ny to go ring chasing for what they take, who knows as well, maybe you make some savvy moves trading Melo and Noah for picks if we bomb this season. I guess we have just got to have a little faith in Phil, if he got Porzingod and the promising Hernangomez, I like our hopes for this draft.

Knicks67 wrote:Do you see the Knicks resigning Rose or is he a rental? Because that really effects what you decide to take with that first round pick. I like Kp and I like Hernangomez, Baker and don't forget Randle. So I think we have options for the future here, depends upon the fate of whether Rose resigns and whether Melo decides to move from Ny to go ring chasing for what they take, who knows as well, maybe you make some savvy moves trading Melo and Noah for picks if we bomb this season. I guess we have just got to have a little faith in Phil, if he got Porzingod and the promising Hernangomez, I like our hopes for this draft.

I think Rose is a rental, mainly because i don't think Phil will want to pay him what he wants. I think Jennings will come back on a reasonable contract and Phil will look to the draft for another PG or a bargain free agent along the lines of how we got Jennings this summer. With KP, Noah, and Willy, we are set at center for many years. With Lee, Holiday (seems like a good fit to resign) and Baker, i think we are set at SG for a few years. Evaluating the PGs and wings who can play next to Melo and KP in a smaller lineup are essential.

Knixkik wrote:

Knicks67 wrote:Do you see the Knicks resigning Rose or is he a rental? Because that really effects what you decide to take with that first round pick. I like Kp and I like Hernangomez, Baker and don't forget Randle. So I think we have options for the future here, depends upon the fate of whether Rose resigns and whether Melo decides to move from Ny to go ring chasing for what they take, who knows as well, maybe you make some savvy moves trading Melo and Noah for picks if we bomb this season. I guess we have just got to have a little faith in Phil, if he got Porzingod and the promising Hernangomez, I like our hopes for this draft.

I think Rose is a rental, mainly because i don't think Phil will want to pay him what he wants. I think Jennings will come back on a reasonable contract and Phil will look to the draft for another PG or a bargain free agent along the lines of how we got Jennings this summer. With KP, Noah, and Willy, we are set at center for many years. With Lee, Holiday (seems like a good fit to resign) and Baker, i think we are set at SG for a few years. Evaluating the PGs and wings who can play next to Melo and KP in a smaller lineup are essential.

I say Rose is a rental but not for $$ reasons but for PG reasons. Dude's game is entirely built off of athleticism. He doesn't run the offense, he doesn't make smart or even good passes, his defense is suspect, his shot making capabilities are suspect.

And there are a couple of alternate avenues: Chris Paul, George Hill, Patty Mills, Jeff Teague, Shawn Livingston.

martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Knicks67 wrote:Do you see the Knicks resigning Rose or is he a rental? Because that really effects what you decide to take with that first round pick. I like Kp and I like Hernangomez, Baker and don't forget Randle. So I think we have options for the future here, depends upon the fate of whether Rose resigns and whether Melo decides to move from Ny to go ring chasing for what they take, who knows as well, maybe you make some savvy moves trading Melo and Noah for picks if we bomb this season. I guess we have just got to have a little faith in Phil, if he got Porzingod and the promising Hernangomez, I like our hopes for this draft.

I think Rose is a rental, mainly because i don't think Phil will want to pay him what he wants. I think Jennings will come back on a reasonable contract and Phil will look to the draft for another PG or a bargain free agent along the lines of how we got Jennings this summer. With KP, Noah, and Willy, we are set at center for many years. With Lee, Holiday (seems like a good fit to resign) and Baker, i think we are set at SG for a few years. Evaluating the PGs and wings who can play next to Melo and KP in a smaller lineup are essential.

I say Rose is a rental but not for $$ reasons but for PG reasons. Dude's game is entirely built off of athleticism. He doesn't run the offense, he doesn't make smart or even good passes, his defense is suspect, his shot making capabilities are suspect.

And there are a couple of alternate avenues: Chris Paul, George Hill, Patty Mills, Jeff Teague, Shawn Livingston.

Yes i completely agree. I think it is a combination. I see Rose's game more fit for a 6th man role. I think we resign Jennings either to continue as 6th man or start while finding a nice backup. Jennings is a better shooter, defender, and more willing passer than Rose, it seems. What his role will be depends on who else we can get, but i expect him back nonetheless.

Frank Johnson from Duke is PG we should keep an eye on. He has great athleticism, can flat out shoot the ball and is a plus defender. I would like to see how he develops as a PG running the team but I like him over Fox. He sorta reminds of Chauncey Billups. Him or OG Anuonby or both would be good young pieces to build this team. Granted it all depends where we land in the draft but that is a ways off.

jullybully21 wrote:Frank Johnson from Duke is PG we should keep an eye on. He has great athleticism, can flat out shoot the ball and is a plus defender. I would like to see how he develops as a PG running the team but I like him over Fox. He sorta reminds of Chauncey Billups. Him or OG Anuonby or both would be good young pieces to build this team. Granted it all depends where we land in the draft but that is a ways off.

Definitely agree.