jrodmc wrote:fishmike wrote:jrodmc wrote:reub wrote:I expect Melo to stop shooting when his shot isn't falling. It's just common sense and good basketball.
I'd expect people to look at the shot chart for the 4th quarter and see that Melo did exactly that. Two whole shots in the 4th quarter. It's just intelligent posting and leads to better BBIQ.
He had a stretch where he missed 10 of 11 shots. If those misses were on jumpers in the flow off the offense fine.. sometimes they dont go down. Melo missed time and time down the floor. Time and time he asked for the ball 18-20 feet away so he could pound it and force whatever shot he could get off. Did you watch the game? The offense was brutal. Others stunk also, Melo was a biggest culprit. He also didnt play any defense at all. Also while we know Melo can score at the 3 he cant defend there. At all. Its at the point where every team knows. Those 3s Robertson hit last night were daggers. Melo was nowhere near the play.
So he's supposed to stop shooting in the second quarter? After the first 5 misses? What exactly? Was he hoisting up threes three seconds into the clock? No, I didn't see the game, but you just said the whole offense was brutal, others being stinky as well.
Try and stay on topic. We're talking about him not shooting when he's off, not his inability to be Kwami Leonard. He played almost the entire fourth quarter and put up two shots. WTF else was he supposed to do? Ask to be benched? Contact BRIGGS and get Phil to have an in-game trade to Boston done?
Go back and read the bold. The answer is yes... at some point he should stop taking THOSE shots. I always give guys a pass for bad shooting nights. It happens. Guys miss shots. The question is as a player what do you do when you start missing? Melo takes more and more of the same shots he's missing.
Stay on topic. How many iso plays vs. Robertson need to end in misses before you are comfortably with Melo changing his approach? You keep harping on the 4th qtr... the question is does Melo's style of play hurt the team? I mean how many times down the floor of watching 4 guys stand around while Melo forces a bad shot against a more athletic defender to realize this is bad basketball? Again... 11 misses in 12 shots, and if you watched it wasnt that he was missing the jumper when the ball swung to him (see John Starks game 7). These were give me the ball because there is no way I am missing this time. Or this. Or this. Or now. Or this time. Got one! Not missing this... or this, or this, or that, or this, or this, or this... thats what missing 10 of 11 sounds like.
My problem isnt the misses, its the type of shot. Iso, 1-1, stand back guys I got this type of play, and he didnt got it. At all.
This is the new NBA the game needs slashers and quick decision makers. Melo isn't a slasher and definitely isn't a quick decision maker. If shooting is the only thing that Melo does than we need big time help with that department. Hate to say it he use to be a good tough shot maker now he is just bad shooter. The game hasn't changed much since that Indiana series. Phil dropped the ball on that Melo signing. Should have let him walk he would have found someone to replace him with.
The ball has to be a hot potato it got to move fast.
Vmart wrote:This is the new NBA the game needs slashers and quick decision makers. Melo isn't a slasher and definitely isn't a quick decision maker. If shooting is the only thing that Melo does than we need big time help with that department. Hate to say it he use to be a good tough shot maker now he is just bad shooter. The game hasn't changed much since that Indiana series. Phil dropped the ball on that Melo signing. Should have let him walk he would have found someone to replace him with. The ball has to be a hot potato it got to move fast.
In new brave NBA I will take Kuz over Melo any day and 10 times over with the contract he has.
He is a slasher, he is a shooter, and his bbal IQ is already higher that Melo.
And instead of grind you can see a smile. So fans can smile too for a change...
arkrud wrote:Vmart wrote:This is the new NBA the game needs slashers and quick decision makers. Melo isn't a slasher and definitely isn't a quick decision maker. If shooting is the only thing that Melo does than we need big time help with that department. Hate to say it he use to be a good tough shot maker now he is just bad shooter. The game hasn't changed much since that Indiana series. Phil dropped the ball on that Melo signing. Should have let him walk he would have found someone to replace him with. The ball has to be a hot potato it got to move fast.
In new brave NBA I will take Kuz over Melo any day and 10 times over with the contract he has.
He is a slasher, he is a shooter, and his bbal IQ is already higher that Melo.
And instead of grind you can see a smile. So fans can smile too for a change...
What about MArdy Collins? Would you take him over Melo? Just trying to gauge the value here...
arkrud wrote:Vmart wrote:This is the new NBA the game needs slashers and quick decision makers. Melo isn't a slasher and definitely isn't a quick decision maker. If shooting is the only thing that Melo does than we need big time help with that department. Hate to say it he use to be a good tough shot maker now he is just bad shooter. The game hasn't changed much since that Indiana series. Phil dropped the ball on that Melo signing. Should have let him walk he would have found someone to replace him with. The ball has to be a hot potato it got to move fast.
In new brave NBA I will take Kuz over Melo any day and 10 times over with the contract he has.
He is a slasher, he is a shooter, and his bbal IQ is already higher that Melo.
And instead of grind you can see a smile. So fans can smile too for a change...
We haven't won a single game with out melo, not one. So I don't understand the hate. It's not like we have a respectable record with out him. We are a 15 win team without him.
During the 54 win season, we won games without melo in the line up, since then it's been zero
knicks1248 wrote:arkrud wrote:Vmart wrote:This is the new NBA the game needs slashers and quick decision makers. Melo isn't a slasher and definitely isn't a quick decision maker. If shooting is the only thing that Melo does than we need big time help with that department. Hate to say it he use to be a good tough shot maker now he is just bad shooter. The game hasn't changed much since that Indiana series. Phil dropped the ball on that Melo signing. Should have let him walk he would have found someone to replace him with. The ball has to be a hot potato it got to move fast.
In new brave NBA I will take Kuz over Melo any day and 10 times over with the contract he has.
He is a slasher, he is a shooter, and his bbal IQ is already higher that Melo.
And instead of grind you can see a smile. So fans can smile too for a change...
We haven't won a single game with out melo, not one. So I don't understand the hate. It's not like we have a respectable record with out him. We are a 15 win team without him.
During the 54 win season, we won games without melo in the line up, since then it's been zero
Your getting sporadic data. We haven't won without Melo because you haven't given the job to anyone who is worthy of starting. Your talking about replacement bench players replacing him. Now if you told me that your going with say Holiday for the entire season I think KP and Rose will adjust their game and eventually produce wins. Just using Holiday as an example as I prefer a better replacement.
I'm with Briggs I can't get Melo out the door fast enough as his style of play doesn't mesh with today's NBA it's slow and tedious. I would love to send Melo to the Clips and get back Griffin I highly doubt Clips do the deal though. Just another imaginary deal with the no trade curse.
jrodmc wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Jmpasq wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:jrodmc wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Vmart wrote:Rose wasn't great either 6-20. Combined with Melo these two were a staggering 13-45.
Rose had 8 assists and 8 boards with just 1 TO his shooting I can live with. Melo is a waste of space if he isnt shooting well
Ummm, Melo the waste of space had 8 boards too. Funny how that stat shines for someone else, but not for Melo.
Yeah, yeah, I know, at 6'8" Melo should have 15 boards every night.
Oh wait, most of those rebounds were off his own misses, right? Because we all know following your own shot is for losers.
If Rose or no one else is getting it done, what would you rather have Melo do? Disappear like H20 used to?
Funny how we didn't see a shit load of Melo played great threads after Fridays game.
Because of consistent inconsistency, Melo gives you 13-20 for 32 points or 5-19 for 18
when your best guy goes 12-19 one night and 7-24 the next with no other intangibles its hard to win. I think he could be used really well in Boston as a 4
And why is that? Because the baskets are larger in Boston? Because Melo's suddenly going to get Harden calls? What changes by moving north, exactly?
We can get younger and the cap room
