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blkexec wrote:KP is a humble kidd from another country. He doesn't come off as a selfish player, which has been melos label for years. KP gives 100 effort on both ends, not just when he has the ball in his hands. This makes KP easy to root for and easy to forgive his bad shooting days, since he impacts the game is so many other areas.

I agree with your post. However he doesn't had many bad shooting games. he has been a pretty consistent 20 ppg player this year and he hasn't even reached the tip of the iceberg in terms of his potential. Like you said he does so many things even when he isn't scoring his usual amount of points. Look I have never disliked melo and I have learned to appreciate his good traits like being able to score in a variety of ways and rebounding. However at this point I do feel it is time to let our emerging superstar take the reigns and for melo to kinda slide into number 2 role. I actually think it is a good thing for melo and for us. he wont have that type of pressure anymore and it will give KP even more confidence

WOW...Hope you have a fire extinguisher handy, you pants are about to explode...

Come on holfresh why does everything have to be a issue between us. I think you're a good due and a great fan. Lets just enjoy the Knicks and hope the winning streak continues.

So does that mean we're cool ?

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holfresh wrote:

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holfresh wrote:

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blkexec wrote:KP is a humble kidd from another country. He doesn't come off as a selfish player, which has been melos label for years. KP gives 100 effort on both ends, not just when he has the ball in his hands. This makes KP easy to root for and easy to forgive his bad shooting days, since he impacts the game is so many other areas.

I agree with your post. However he doesn't had many bad shooting games. he has been a pretty consistent 20 ppg player this year and he hasn't even reached the tip of the iceberg in terms of his potential. Like you said he does so many things even when he isn't scoring his usual amount of points. Look I have never disliked melo and I have learned to appreciate his good traits like being able to score in a variety of ways and rebounding. However at this point I do feel it is time to let our emerging superstar take the reigns and for melo to kinda slide into number 2 role. I actually think it is a good thing for melo and for us. he wont have that type of pressure anymore and it will give KP even more confidence

WOW...Hope you have a fire extinguisher handy, you pants are about to explode...

Come on holfresh why does everything have to be a issue between us. I think you're a good due and a great fan. Lets just enjoy the Knicks and hope the winning streak continues.

So does that mean we're cool ?

Of course..But just a question tho..Why don't you want KP to earn his role on this team instead of just given to him?

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holfresh wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

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blkexec wrote:KP is a humble kidd from another country. He doesn't come off as a selfish player, which has been melos label for years. KP gives 100 effort on both ends, not just when he has the ball in his hands. This makes KP easy to root for and easy to forgive his bad shooting days, since he impacts the game is so many other areas.

I agree with your post. However he doesn't had many bad shooting games. he has been a pretty consistent 20 ppg player this year and he hasn't even reached the tip of the iceberg in terms of his potential. Like you said he does so many things even when he isn't scoring his usual amount of points. Look I have never disliked melo and I have learned to appreciate his good traits like being able to score in a variety of ways and rebounding. However at this point I do feel it is time to let our emerging superstar take the reigns and for melo to kinda slide into number 2 role. I actually think it is a good thing for melo and for us. he wont have that type of pressure anymore and it will give KP even more confidence

WOW...Hope you have a fire extinguisher handy, you pants are about to explode...

Come on holfresh why does everything have to be a issue between us. I think you're a good due and a great fan. Lets just enjoy the Knicks and hope the winning streak continues.

So does that mean we're cool ?

Of course..But just a question tho..Why don't you want KP to earn his role on this team instead of just given to him?

He is earning it. Without him we would be in trouble

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holfresh wrote:

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holfresh wrote:

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holfresh wrote:

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blkexec wrote:KP is a humble kidd from another country. He doesn't come off as a selfish player, which has been melos label for years. KP gives 100 effort on both ends, not just when he has the ball in his hands. This makes KP easy to root for and easy to forgive his bad shooting days, since he impacts the game is so many other areas.

I agree with your post. However he doesn't had many bad shooting games. he has been a pretty consistent 20 ppg player this year and he hasn't even reached the tip of the iceberg in terms of his potential. Like you said he does so many things even when he isn't scoring his usual amount of points. Look I have never disliked melo and I have learned to appreciate his good traits like being able to score in a variety of ways and rebounding. However at this point I do feel it is time to let our emerging superstar take the reigns and for melo to kinda slide into number 2 role. I actually think it is a good thing for melo and for us. he wont have that type of pressure anymore and it will give KP even more confidence

WOW...Hope you have a fire extinguisher handy, you pants are about to explode...

Come on holfresh why does everything have to be a issue between us. I think you're a good due and a great fan. Lets just enjoy the Knicks and hope the winning streak continues.

So does that mean we're cool ?

Of course..But just a question tho..Why don't you want KP to earn his role on this team instead of just given to him?

He is earning it. Without him we would be in trouble

And how do you come to that conclusion especially after watching last night?

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holfresh wrote:

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holfresh wrote:

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holfresh wrote:

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blkexec wrote:KP is a humble kidd from another country. He doesn't come off as a selfish player, which has been melos label for years. KP gives 100 effort on both ends, not just when he has the ball in his hands. This makes KP easy to root for and easy to forgive his bad shooting days, since he impacts the game is so many other areas.

I agree with your post. However he doesn't had many bad shooting games. he has been a pretty consistent 20 ppg player this year and he hasn't even reached the tip of the iceberg in terms of his potential. Like you said he does so many things even when he isn't scoring his usual amount of points. Look I have never disliked melo and I have learned to appreciate his good traits like being able to score in a variety of ways and rebounding. However at this point I do feel it is time to let our emerging superstar take the reigns and for melo to kinda slide into number 2 role. I actually think it is a good thing for melo and for us. he wont have that type of pressure anymore and it will give KP even more confidence

WOW...Hope you have a fire extinguisher handy, you pants are about to explode...

Come on holfresh why does everything have to be a issue between us. I think you're a good due and a great fan. Lets just enjoy the Knicks and hope the winning streak continues.

So does that mean we're cool ?

Of course..But just a question tho..Why don't you want KP to earn his role on this team instead of just given to him?

He is earning it. Without him we would be in trouble

And how do you come to that conclusion especially after watching last night?

Every player has an off night. Lets be honest Melo wasn't exactly playing like a HOF the previous 3 games before last night

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holfresh wrote:

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holfresh wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

blkexec wrote:KP is a humble kidd from another country. He doesn't come off as a selfish player, which has been melos label for years. KP gives 100 effort on both ends, not just when he has the ball in his hands. This makes KP easy to root for and easy to forgive his bad shooting days, since he impacts the game is so many other areas.

I agree with your post. However he doesn't had many bad shooting games. he has been a pretty consistent 20 ppg player this year and he hasn't even reached the tip of the iceberg in terms of his potential. Like you said he does so many things even when he isn't scoring his usual amount of points. Look I have never disliked melo and I have learned to appreciate his good traits like being able to score in a variety of ways and rebounding. However at this point I do feel it is time to let our emerging superstar take the reigns and for melo to kinda slide into number 2 role. I actually think it is a good thing for melo and for us. he wont have that type of pressure anymore and it will give KP even more confidence

WOW...Hope you have a fire extinguisher handy, you pants are about to explode...

Come on holfresh why does everything have to be a issue between us. I think you're a good due and a great fan. Lets just enjoy the Knicks and hope the winning streak continues.

So does that mean we're cool ?

Of course..But just a question tho..Why don't you want KP to earn his role on this team instead of just given to him?

He is earning it. Without him we would be in trouble

And how do you come to that conclusion especially after watching last night?

Every player has an off night. Lets be honest Melo wasn't exactly playing like a HOF the previous 3 games before last night

Well my point is that a player has to show he can carry the load night in and night out before unseating a guy like Melo who has carried 50 win teams for a decade...

You still have no clue what KP will physically look like in the second half with all the minutes he is logging..This is new territory for him...Instead of using Melo and Rose to ease into the role, you think he can handle the load of scrutiny..When he becomes the man, people will notice a no name like Bjelicia was torching him last night...

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holfresh wrote:

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holfresh wrote:

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holfresh wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

blkexec wrote:KP is a humble kidd from another country. He doesn't come off as a selfish player, which has been melos label for years. KP gives 100 effort on both ends, not just when he has the ball in his hands. This makes KP easy to root for and easy to forgive his bad shooting days, since he impacts the game is so many other areas.

I agree with your post. However he doesn't had many bad shooting games. he has been a pretty consistent 20 ppg player this year and he hasn't even reached the tip of the iceberg in terms of his potential. Like you said he does so many things even when he isn't scoring his usual amount of points. Look I have never disliked melo and I have learned to appreciate his good traits like being able to score in a variety of ways and rebounding. However at this point I do feel it is time to let our emerging superstar take the reigns and for melo to kinda slide into number 2 role. I actually think it is a good thing for melo and for us. he wont have that type of pressure anymore and it will give KP even more confidence

WOW...Hope you have a fire extinguisher handy, you pants are about to explode...

Come on holfresh why does everything have to be a issue between us. I think you're a good due and a great fan. Lets just enjoy the Knicks and hope the winning streak continues.

So does that mean we're cool ?

Of course..But just a question tho..Why don't you want KP to earn his role on this team instead of just given to him?

He is earning it. Without him we would be in trouble

And how do you come to that conclusion especially after watching last night?

Every player has an off night. Lets be honest Melo wasn't exactly playing like a HOF the previous 3 games before last night

Well my point is that a player has to show he can carry the load night in and night out before unseating a guy like Melo who has carried 50 win teams for the last decade...

You still have no clue what KP will physically look like in the second half with all the minutes he is logging..This is new territory for him...Instead of using Melo and Rose to ease into the role, you think he can handle the load a scrutiny..When he becomes the man, people will notice a no name like Bjelicia was torching him last night...

I just feel its been a long time since we had this type of talent who is gonna get even better . Maybe since Ewing. Anyway besides KP I'm very happy about Willy and Kuz as well who have really been a spark off the bench

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holfresh wrote:

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holfresh wrote:

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holfresh wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

blkexec wrote:KP is a humble kidd from another country. He doesn't come off as a selfish player, which has been melos label for years. KP gives 100 effort on both ends, not just when he has the ball in his hands. This makes KP easy to root for and easy to forgive his bad shooting days, since he impacts the game is so many other areas.

I agree with your post. However he doesn't had many bad shooting games. he has been a pretty consistent 20 ppg player this year and he hasn't even reached the tip of the iceberg in terms of his potential. Like you said he does so many things even when he isn't scoring his usual amount of points. Look I have never disliked melo and I have learned to appreciate his good traits like being able to score in a variety of ways and rebounding. However at this point I do feel it is time to let our emerging superstar take the reigns and for melo to kinda slide into number 2 role. I actually think it is a good thing for melo and for us. he wont have that type of pressure anymore and it will give KP even more confidence

WOW...Hope you have a fire extinguisher handy, you pants are about to explode...

Come on holfresh why does everything have to be a issue between us. I think you're a good due and a great fan. Lets just enjoy the Knicks and hope the winning streak continues.

So does that mean we're cool ?

Of course..But just a question tho..Why don't you want KP to earn his role on this team instead of just given to him?

He is earning it. Without him we would be in trouble

And how do you come to that conclusion especially after watching last night?

Every player has an off night. Lets be honest Melo wasn't exactly playing like a HOF the previous 3 games before last night

Well my point is that a player has to show he can carry the load night in and night out before unseating a guy like Melo who has carried 50 win teams for the last decade...

You still have no clue what KP will physically look like in the second half with all the minutes he is logging..This is new territory for him...Instead of using Melo and Rose to ease into the role, you think he can handle the load a scrutiny..When he becomes the man, people will notice a no name like Bjelicia was torching him last night...

I just feel its been a long time since we had this type of talent who is gonna get even better . Maybe since Ewing. Anyway besides KP I'm very happy about Willy and Kuz as well who have really been a spark off the bench

Well don't forget winning is a talent too..KLove can attest to that..

ActionJackson wrote:Not really trying to stir up any sh** but just wanted to point out that during the endless debate about whose team this is & page after page of "Melo should just hand the reigns to KP already" threads, there never seems to be any conscious critique of KP's faults or bad games, and isn't that what being the Alpha dog is all about? I mean you get all the glory when you win but (especially in this media circus town) you also get blamed when the team loses or almost chokes away a big lead and loses. All that to say, I saw absolutely no mention of Porzingod going 2-12 in the game thread last night and if the opposite was true there would be fans with their digital pitchforks screaming "Bring back Wilson Chandler!!!" Why is that???

Knicks won the game.

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holfresh wrote:

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holfresh wrote:

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blkexec wrote:KP is a humble kidd from another country. He doesn't come off as a selfish player, which has been melos label for years. KP gives 100 effort on both ends, not just when he has the ball in his hands. This makes KP easy to root for and easy to forgive his bad shooting days, since he impacts the game is so many other areas.

I agree with your post. However he doesn't had many bad shooting games. he has been a pretty consistent 20 ppg player this year and he hasn't even reached the tip of the iceberg in terms of his potential. Like you said he does so many things even when he isn't scoring his usual amount of points. Look I have never disliked melo and I have learned to appreciate his good traits like being able to score in a variety of ways and rebounding. However at this point I do feel it is time to let our emerging superstar take the reigns and for melo to kinda slide into number 2 role. I actually think it is a good thing for melo and for us. he wont have that type of pressure anymore and it will give KP even more confidence

WOW...Hope you have a fire extinguisher handy, you pants are about to explode...

Come on holfresh why does everything have to be a issue between us. I think you're a good due and a great fan. Lets just enjoy the Knicks and hope the winning streak continues.

So does that mean we're cool ?

Of course..But just a question tho..Why don't you want KP to earn his role on this team instead of just given to him?

He is earning it. Without him we would be in trouble

And how do you come to that conclusion especially after watching last night?

Every player has an off night. Lets be honest Melo wasn't exactly playing like a HOF the previous 3 games before last night

Well my point is that a player has to show he can carry the load night in and night out before unseating a guy like Melo who has carried 50 win teams for the last decade...

You still have no clue what KP will physically look like in the second half with all the minutes he is logging..This is new territory for him...Instead of using Melo and Rose to ease into the role, you think he can handle the load a scrutiny..When he becomes the man, people will notice a no name like Bjelicia was torching him last night...

I just feel its been a long time since we had this type of talent who is gonna get even better . Maybe since Ewing. Anyway besides KP I'm very happy about Willy and Kuz as well who have really been a spark off the bench

Well don't forget winning is a talent too..KLove can attest to that..

I agree winning is the most important. I know we disagree about KP vs Melo BUT in the end we both want the knicks to win...thats all that matters. If KP has a bad night and melo has a big night I will be happy and vice versa

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blkexec wrote:KP is a humble kidd from another country. He doesn't come off as a selfish player, which has been melos label for years. KP gives 100 effort on both ends, not just when he has the ball in his hands. This makes KP easy to root for and easy to forgive his bad shooting days, since he impacts the game is so many other areas.

I agree with your post. However he doesn't had many bad shooting games. he has been a pretty consistent 20 ppg player this year and he hasn't even reached the tip of the iceberg in terms of his potential. Like you said he does so many things even when he isn't scoring his usual amount of points. Look I have never disliked melo and I have learned to appreciate his good traits like being able to score in a variety of ways and rebounding. However at this point I do feel it is time to let our emerging superstar take the reigns and for melo to kinda slide into number 2 role. I actually think it is a good thing for melo and for us. he wont have that type of pressure anymore and it will give KP even more confidence

WOW...Hope you have a fire extinguisher handy, you pants are about to explode...

Come on holfresh why does everything have to be a issue between us. I think you're a good due and a great fan. Lets just enjoy the Knicks and hope the winning streak continues.

So does that mean we're cool ?

Of course..But just a question tho..Why don't you want KP to earn his role on this team instead of just given to him?

He is earning it. Without him we would be in trouble

And how do you come to that conclusion especially after watching last night?

Every player has an off night. Lets be honest Melo wasn't exactly playing like a HOF the previous 3 games before last night

Well my point is that a player has to show he can carry the load night in and night out before unseating a guy like Melo who has carried 50 win teams for the last decade...

You still have no clue what KP will physically look like in the second half with all the minutes he is logging..This is new territory for him...Instead of using Melo and Rose to ease into the role, you think he can handle the load a scrutiny..When he becomes the man, people will notice a no name like Bjelicia was torching him last night...

I just feel its been a long time since we had this type of talent who is gonna get even better . Maybe since Ewing. Anyway besides KP I'm very happy about Willy and Kuz as well who have really been a spark off the bench

Well don't forget winning is a talent too..KLove can attest to that..

I agree winning is the most important. I know we disagree about KP vs Melo BUT in the end we both want the knicks to win...thats all that matters. If KP has a bad night and melo has a big night I will be happy and vice versa

But it just seems like it not about winning, Your theme and others this year has been KP should be number one, not winning...I think that's why you see threads like this..

holfresh wrote:

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blkexec wrote:KP is a humble kidd from another country. He doesn't come off as a selfish player, which has been melos label for years. KP gives 100 effort on both ends, not just when he has the ball in his hands. This makes KP easy to root for and easy to forgive his bad shooting days, since he impacts the game is so many other areas.

I agree with your post. However he doesn't had many bad shooting games. he has been a pretty consistent 20 ppg player this year and he hasn't even reached the tip of the iceberg in terms of his potential. Like you said he does so many things even when he isn't scoring his usual amount of points. Look I have never disliked melo and I have learned to appreciate his good traits like being able to score in a variety of ways and rebounding. However at this point I do feel it is time to let our emerging superstar take the reigns and for melo to kinda slide into number 2 role. I actually think it is a good thing for melo and for us. he wont have that type of pressure anymore and it will give KP even more confidence

WOW...Hope you have a fire extinguisher handy, you pants are about to explode...

holfresh wrote:

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holfresh wrote:

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blkexec wrote:KP is a humble kidd from another country. He doesn't come off as a selfish player, which has been melos label for years. KP gives 100 effort on both ends, not just when he has the ball in his hands. This makes KP easy to root for and easy to forgive his bad shooting days, since he impacts the game is so many other areas.

I agree with your post. However he doesn't had many bad shooting games. he has been a pretty consistent 20 ppg player this year and he hasn't even reached the tip of the iceberg in terms of his potential. Like you said he does so many things even when he isn't scoring his usual amount of points. Look I have never disliked melo and I have learned to appreciate his good traits like being able to score in a variety of ways and rebounding. However at this point I do feel it is time to let our emerging superstar take the reigns and for melo to kinda slide into number 2 role. I actually think it is a good thing for melo and for us. he wont have that type of pressure anymore and it will give KP even more confidence

WOW...Hope you have a fire extinguisher handy, you pants are about to explode...

Come on holfresh why does everything have to be a issue between us. I think you're a good due and a great fan. Lets just enjoy the Knicks and hope the winning streak continues.

So does that mean we're cool ?

Of course..But just a question tho..Why don't you want KP to earn his role on this team instead of just given to him?

He is earning it. Without him we would be in trouble

And how do you come to that conclusion especially after watching last night?

Every player has an off night. Lets be honest Melo wasn't exactly playing like a HOF the previous 3 games before last night

Well my point is that a player has to show he can carry the load night in and night out before unseating a guy like Melo who has carried 50 win teams for the last decade...

You still have no clue what KP will physically look like in the second half with all the minutes he is logging..This is new territory for him...Instead of using Melo and Rose to ease into the role, you think he can handle the load a scrutiny..When he becomes the man, people will notice a no name like Bjelicia was torching him last night...

I just feel its been a long time since we had this type of talent who is gonna get even better . Maybe since Ewing. Anyway besides KP I'm very happy about Willy and Kuz as well who have really been a spark off the bench

Well don't forget winning is a talent too..KLove can attest to that..

I agree winning is the most important. I know we disagree about KP vs Melo BUT in the end we both want the knicks to win...thats all that matters. If KP has a bad night and melo has a big night I will be happy and vice versa

But it just seems like it not about winning, Your theme and others this year has been KP should be number one, not winning...I think that's why you see threads like this..

Its NEVER been my theme. I want this team to win so Damn badly no matter what. This is kinda why I get aggravated sometimes is when I get questioned for being a "true" fan. I have been a basketball guy my entire life both athletically and as a die hard knick fan. I try to be as honest as possible even if it isn't the most popular things to say. I admit when we first drafted KP I WAS NOT happy. I thought he would be either a project or another euro player who never makes it. I'm glad a I was wrong because other that Towns he has been the best rookie in that class by a mile. So of course I'm excited to see him become a superstar especially since we haven't had a homegrown one for years. But despite that I truly menat what I said....as long as the Knicks win I'm happy

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blkexec wrote:KP is a humble kidd from another country. He doesn't come off as a selfish player, which has been melos label for years. KP gives 100 effort on both ends, not just when he has the ball in his hands. This makes KP easy to root for and easy to forgive his bad shooting days, since he impacts the game is so many other areas.

I agree with your post. However he doesn't had many bad shooting games. he has been a pretty consistent 20 ppg player this year and he hasn't even reached the tip of the iceberg in terms of his potential. Like you said he does so many things even when he isn't scoring his usual amount of points. Look I have never disliked melo and I have learned to appreciate his good traits like being able to score in a variety of ways and rebounding. However at this point I do feel it is time to let our emerging superstar take the reigns and for melo to kinda slide into number 2 role. I actually think it is a good thing for melo and for us. he wont have that type of pressure anymore and it will give KP even more confidence

WOW...Hope you have a fire extinguisher handy, you pants are about to explode...

Stll not sure whats so funny about that. I was very complimentary of melo and basically saying he was very important to this team and for KP's future success

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blkexec wrote:KP is a humble kidd from another country. He doesn't come off as a selfish player, which has been melos label for years. KP gives 100 effort on both ends, not just when he has the ball in his hands. This makes KP easy to root for and easy to forgive his bad shooting days, since he impacts the game is so many other areas.

I agree with your post. However he doesn't had many bad shooting games. he has been a pretty consistent 20 ppg player this year and he hasn't even reached the tip of the iceberg in terms of his potential. Like you said he does so many things even when he isn't scoring his usual amount of points. Look I have never disliked melo and I have learned to appreciate his good traits like being able to score in a variety of ways and rebounding. However at this point I do feel it is time to let our emerging superstar take the reigns and for melo to kinda slide into number 2 role. I actually think it is a good thing for melo and for us. he wont have that type of pressure anymore and it will give KP even more confidence

WOW...Hope you have a fire extinguisher handy, you pants are about to explode...

Come on holfresh why does everything have to be a issue between us. I think you're a good due and a great fan. Lets just enjoy the Knicks and hope the winning streak continues.

So does that mean we're cool ?

Of course..But just a question tho..Why don't you want KP to earn his role on this team instead of just given to him?

He is earning it. Without him we would be in trouble

And how do you come to that conclusion especially after watching last night?

Every player has an off night. Lets be honest Melo wasn't exactly playing like a HOF the previous 3 games before last night

Well my point is that a player has to show he can carry the load night in and night out before unseating a guy like Melo who has carried 50 win teams for the last decade...

You still have no clue what KP will physically look like in the second half with all the minutes he is logging..This is new territory for him...Instead of using Melo and Rose to ease into the role, you think he can handle the load a scrutiny..When he becomes the man, people will notice a no name like Bjelicia was torching him last night...

I just feel its been a long time since we had this type of talent who is gonna get even better . Maybe since Ewing. Anyway besides KP I'm very happy about Willy and Kuz as well who have really been a spark off the bench

Well don't forget winning is a talent too..KLove can attest to that..

I agree winning is the most important. I know we disagree about KP vs Melo BUT in the end we both want the knicks to win...thats all that matters. If KP has a bad night and melo has a big night I will be happy and vice versa

But it just seems like it not about winning, Your theme and others this year has been KP should be number one, not winning...I think that's why you see threads like this..

Its NEVER been my theme. I want this team to win so Damn badly no matter what. This is kinda why I get aggravated sometimes is when I get questioned for being a "true" fan. I have been a basketball guy my entire life both athletically and as a die hard knick fan. I try to be as honest as possible even if it isn't the most popular things to say. I admit when we first drafted KP I WAS NOT happy. I thought he would be either a project or another euro player who never makes it. I'm glad a I was wrong because other that Towns he has been the best rookie in that class by a mile. So of course I'm excited to see him become a superstar especially since we haven't had a homegrown one for years. But despite that I truly menat what I said....as long as the Knicks win I'm happy

But he is not a superstar...You don't even pay attention to how he gets his points...You don't even pay attention to see who is on the floor attracting the attention for KP to get the open looks he is getting..You think he is taking wide open threes because he is talented...When KP becomes the man, the defenders they put on Melo, they will start putting on KP..And when he starts scoring on them, with other guys flashing at him at the same time, then he will be a superstar...

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blkexec wrote:KP is a humble kidd from another country. He doesn't come off as a selfish player, which has been melos label for years. KP gives 100 effort on both ends, not just when he has the ball in his hands. This makes KP easy to root for and easy to forgive his bad shooting days, since he impacts the game is so many other areas.

I agree with your post. However he doesn't had many bad shooting games. he has been a pretty consistent 20 ppg player this year and he hasn't even reached the tip of the iceberg in terms of his potential. Like you said he does so many things even when he isn't scoring his usual amount of points. Look I have never disliked melo and I have learned to appreciate his good traits like being able to score in a variety of ways and rebounding. However at this point I do feel it is time to let our emerging superstar take the reigns and for melo to kinda slide into number 2 role. I actually think it is a good thing for melo and for us. he wont have that type of pressure anymore and it will give KP even more confidence

WOW...Hope you have a fire extinguisher handy, you pants are about to explode...

Come on holfresh why does everything have to be a issue between us. I think you're a good due and a great fan. Lets just enjoy the Knicks and hope the winning streak continues.

So does that mean we're cool ?

Of course..But just a question tho..Why don't you want KP to earn his role on this team instead of just given to him?

He is earning it. Without him we would be in trouble

And how do you come to that conclusion especially after watching last night?

Every player has an off night. Lets be honest Melo wasn't exactly playing like a HOF the previous 3 games before last night

Well my point is that a player has to show he can carry the load night in and night out before unseating a guy like Melo who has carried 50 win teams for the last decade...

You still have no clue what KP will physically look like in the second half with all the minutes he is logging..This is new territory for him...Instead of using Melo and Rose to ease into the role, you think he can handle the load a scrutiny..When he becomes the man, people will notice a no name like Bjelicia was torching him last night...

I just feel its been a long time since we had this type of talent who is gonna get even better . Maybe since Ewing. Anyway besides KP I'm very happy about Willy and Kuz as well who have really been a spark off the bench

Well don't forget winning is a talent too..KLove can attest to that..

I agree winning is the most important. I know we disagree about KP vs Melo BUT in the end we both want the knicks to win...thats all that matters. If KP has a bad night and melo has a big night I will be happy and vice versa

But it just seems like it not about winning, Your theme and others this year has been KP should be number one, not winning...I think that's why you see threads like this..

Its NEVER been my theme. I want this team to win so Damn badly no matter what. This is kinda why I get aggravated sometimes is when I get questioned for being a "true" fan. I have been a basketball guy my entire life both athletically and as a die hard knick fan. I try to be as honest as possible even if it isn't the most popular things to say. I admit when we first drafted KP I WAS NOT happy. I thought he would be either a project or another euro player who never makes it. I'm glad a I was wrong because other that Towns he has been the best rookie in that class by a mile. So of course I'm excited to see him become a superstar especially since we haven't had a homegrown one for years. But despite that I truly menat what I said....as long as the Knicks win I'm happy

But he is not a superstar...You don't even pay attention to how he gets his points...You don't even pay attention to see who is on the floor attracting the attention for KP to get the open looks he is getting..You think he is taking wide open threes because he is talented...When KP becomes the man, the defenders they put on Melo, they will start putting on KP..And when he starts scoring on them, with other guys flashing at him at the same time, then he will be a superstar...

Don't say I don't pay attention. I know melo is superman apparently but you gotta give a little credit to KP

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blkexec wrote:KP is a humble kidd from another country. He doesn't come off as a selfish player, which has been melos label for years. KP gives 100 effort on both ends, not just when he has the ball in his hands. This makes KP easy to root for and easy to forgive his bad shooting days, since he impacts the game is so many other areas.

I agree with your post. However he doesn't had many bad shooting games. he has been a pretty consistent 20 ppg player this year and he hasn't even reached the tip of the iceberg in terms of his potential. Like you said he does so many things even when he isn't scoring his usual amount of points. Look I have never disliked melo and I have learned to appreciate his good traits like being able to score in a variety of ways and rebounding. However at this point I do feel it is time to let our emerging superstar take the reigns and for melo to kinda slide into number 2 role. I actually think it is a good thing for melo and for us. he wont have that type of pressure anymore and it will give KP even more confidence

WOW...Hope you have a fire extinguisher handy, you pants are about to explode...

Come on holfresh why does everything have to be a issue between us. I think you're a good due and a great fan. Lets just enjoy the Knicks and hope the winning streak continues.

So does that mean we're cool ?

Of course..But just a question tho..Why don't you want KP to earn his role on this team instead of just given to him?

He is earning it. Without him we would be in trouble

And how do you come to that conclusion especially after watching last night?

Every player has an off night. Lets be honest Melo wasn't exactly playing like a HOF the previous 3 games before last night

Well my point is that a player has to show he can carry the load night in and night out before unseating a guy like Melo who has carried 50 win teams for the last decade...

You still have no clue what KP will physically look like in the second half with all the minutes he is logging..This is new territory for him...Instead of using Melo and Rose to ease into the role, you think he can handle the load a scrutiny..When he becomes the man, people will notice a no name like Bjelicia was torching him last night...

I just feel its been a long time since we had this type of talent who is gonna get even better . Maybe since Ewing. Anyway besides KP I'm very happy about Willy and Kuz as well who have really been a spark off the bench

Well don't forget winning is a talent too..KLove can attest to that..

I agree winning is the most important. I know we disagree about KP vs Melo BUT in the end we both want the knicks to win...thats all that matters. If KP has a bad night and melo has a big night I will be happy and vice versa

But it just seems like it not about winning, Your theme and others this year has been KP should be number one, not winning...I think that's why you see threads like this..

Its NEVER been my theme. I want this team to win so Damn badly no matter what. This is kinda why I get aggravated sometimes is when I get questioned for being a "true" fan. I have been a basketball guy my entire life both athletically and as a die hard knick fan. I try to be as honest as possible even if it isn't the most popular things to say. I admit when we first drafted KP I WAS NOT happy. I thought he would be either a project or another euro player who never makes it. I'm glad a I was wrong because other that Towns he has been the best rookie in that class by a mile. So of course I'm excited to see him become a superstar especially since we haven't had a homegrown one for years. But despite that I truly menat what I said....as long as the Knicks win I'm happy

But he is not a superstar...You don't even pay attention to how he gets his points...You don't even pay attention to see who is on the floor attracting the attention for KP to get the open looks he is getting..You think he is taking wide open threes because he is talented...When KP becomes the man, the defenders they put on Melo, they will start putting on KP..And when he starts scoring on them, with other guys flashing at him at the same time, then he will be a superstar...

Don't say I don't pay attention. I know melo is superman apparently but you gotta give a little credit to KP

Sure, I give KP lots of credit, he is a very good player but superstar???

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blkexec wrote:KP is a humble kidd from another country. He doesn't come off as a selfish player, which has been melos label for years. KP gives 100 effort on both ends, not just when he has the ball in his hands. This makes KP easy to root for and easy to forgive his bad shooting days, since he impacts the game is so many other areas.

I agree with your post. However he doesn't had many bad shooting games. he has been a pretty consistent 20 ppg player this year and he hasn't even reached the tip of the iceberg in terms of his potential. Like you said he does so many things even when he isn't scoring his usual amount of points. Look I have never disliked melo and I have learned to appreciate his good traits like being able to score in a variety of ways and rebounding. However at this point I do feel it is time to let our emerging superstar take the reigns and for melo to kinda slide into number 2 role. I actually think it is a good thing for melo and for us. he wont have that type of pressure anymore and it will give KP even more confidence

WOW...Hope you have a fire extinguisher handy, you pants are about to explode...

Come on holfresh why does everything have to be a issue between us. I think you're a good due and a great fan. Lets just enjoy the Knicks and hope the winning streak continues.

So does that mean we're cool ?

Of course..But just a question tho..Why don't you want KP to earn his role on this team instead of just given to him?

He is earning it. Without him we would be in trouble

And how do you come to that conclusion especially after watching last night?

Every player has an off night. Lets be honest Melo wasn't exactly playing like a HOF the previous 3 games before last night

Well my point is that a player has to show he can carry the load night in and night out before unseating a guy like Melo who has carried 50 win teams for the last decade...

You still have no clue what KP will physically look like in the second half with all the minutes he is logging..This is new territory for him...Instead of using Melo and Rose to ease into the role, you think he can handle the load a scrutiny..When he becomes the man, people will notice a no name like Bjelicia was torching him last night...

I just feel its been a long time since we had this type of talent who is gonna get even better . Maybe since Ewing. Anyway besides KP I'm very happy about Willy and Kuz as well who have really been a spark off the bench

Well don't forget winning is a talent too..KLove can attest to that..

I agree winning is the most important. I know we disagree about KP vs Melo BUT in the end we both want the knicks to win...thats all that matters. If KP has a bad night and melo has a big night I will be happy and vice versa

But it just seems like it not about winning, Your theme and others this year has been KP should be number one, not winning...I think that's why you see threads like this..

Its NEVER been my theme. I want this team to win so Damn badly no matter what. This is kinda why I get aggravated sometimes is when I get questioned for being a "true" fan. I have been a basketball guy my entire life both athletically and as a die hard knick fan. I try to be as honest as possible even if it isn't the most popular things to say. I admit when we first drafted KP I WAS NOT happy. I thought he would be either a project or another euro player who never makes it. I'm glad a I was wrong because other that Towns he has been the best rookie in that class by a mile. So of course I'm excited to see him become a superstar especially since we haven't had a homegrown one for years. But despite that I truly menat what I said....as long as the Knicks win I'm happy

But he is not a superstar...You don't even pay attention to how he gets his points...You don't even pay attention to see who is on the floor attracting the attention for KP to get the open looks he is getting..You think he is taking wide open threes because he is talented...When KP becomes the man, the defenders they put on Melo, they will start putting on KP..And when he starts scoring on them, with other guys flashing at him at the same time, then he will be a superstar...

Don't say I don't pay attention. I know melo is superman apparently but you gotta give a little credit to KP

Sure, I give KP lots of credit, he is a very good player but superstar???

I said "become a superstar" I didn't say he was there yet. I don't think we have a superstar to be honest. I mean LeBron james is a superstar, steph curry, Durant...those type of guys. KAT is on his way there too

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blkexec wrote:KP is a humble kidd from another country. He doesn't come off as a selfish player, which has been melos label for years. KP gives 100 effort on both ends, not just when he has the ball in his hands. This makes KP easy to root for and easy to forgive his bad shooting days, since he impacts the game is so many other areas.

I agree with your post. However he doesn't had many bad shooting games. he has been a pretty consistent 20 ppg player this year and he hasn't even reached the tip of the iceberg in terms of his potential. Like you said he does so many things even when he isn't scoring his usual amount of points. Look I have never disliked melo and I have learned to appreciate his good traits like being able to score in a variety of ways and rebounding. However at this point I do feel it is time to let our emerging superstar take the reigns and for melo to kinda slide into number 2 role. I actually think it is a good thing for melo and for us. he wont have that type of pressure anymore and it will give KP even more confidence

WOW...Hope you have a fire extinguisher handy, you pants are about to explode...

Come on holfresh why does everything have to be a issue between us. I think you're a good due and a great fan. Lets just enjoy the Knicks and hope the winning streak continues.

So does that mean we're cool ?

Of course..But just a question tho..Why don't you want KP to earn his role on this team instead of just given to him?

He is earning it. Without him we would be in trouble

And how do you come to that conclusion especially after watching last night?

Every player has an off night. Lets be honest Melo wasn't exactly playing like a HOF the previous 3 games before last night

Well my point is that a player has to show he can carry the load night in and night out before unseating a guy like Melo who has carried 50 win teams for the last decade...

You still have no clue what KP will physically look like in the second half with all the minutes he is logging..This is new territory for him...Instead of using Melo and Rose to ease into the role, you think he can handle the load a scrutiny..When he becomes the man, people will notice a no name like Bjelicia was torching him last night...

I just feel its been a long time since we had this type of talent who is gonna get even better . Maybe since Ewing. Anyway besides KP I'm very happy about Willy and Kuz as well who have really been a spark off the bench

Well don't forget winning is a talent too..KLove can attest to that..

I agree winning is the most important. I know we disagree about KP vs Melo BUT in the end we both want the knicks to win...thats all that matters. If KP has a bad night and melo has a big night I will be happy and vice versa

But it just seems like it not about winning, Your theme and others this year has been KP should be number one, not winning...I think that's why you see threads like this..

Its NEVER been my theme. I want this team to win so Damn badly no matter what. This is kinda why I get aggravated sometimes is when I get questioned for being a "true" fan. I have been a basketball guy my entire life both athletically and as a die hard knick fan. I try to be as honest as possible even if it isn't the most popular things to say. I admit when we first drafted KP I WAS NOT happy. I thought he would be either a project or another euro player who never makes it. I'm glad a I was wrong because other that Towns he has been the best rookie in that class by a mile. So of course I'm excited to see him become a superstar especially since we haven't had a homegrown one for years. But despite that I truly menat what I said....as long as the Knicks win I'm happy

But he is not a superstar...You don't even pay attention to how he gets his points...You don't even pay attention to see who is on the floor attracting the attention for KP to get the open looks he is getting..You think he is taking wide open threes because he is talented...When KP becomes the man, the defenders they put on Melo, they will start putting on KP..And when he starts scoring on them, with other guys flashing at him at the same time, then he will be a superstar...

Don't say I don't pay attention. I know melo is superman apparently but you gotta give a little credit to KP

Sure, I give KP lots of credit, he is a very good player but superstar???

I said "become a superstar" I didn't say he was there yet. I don't think we have a superstar to be honest. I mean LeBron james is a superstar, steph curry, Durant...those type of guys. KAT is on his way there too

Right, Melo won the scoring title and led the team to 54 wins and second round, when we had not gotten that far in a decade, yet you say KP after scoring 30 pts is the first superstar we had since Ewing..KAT hasn't won jack...Unibrow took his team to the playoffs, that's a superstar...

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blkexec wrote:KP is a humble kidd from another country. He doesn't come off as a selfish player, which has been melos label for years. KP gives 100 effort on both ends, not just when he has the ball in his hands. This makes KP easy to root for and easy to forgive his bad shooting days, since he impacts the game is so many other areas.

I agree with your post. However he doesn't had many bad shooting games. he has been a pretty consistent 20 ppg player this year and he hasn't even reached the tip of the iceberg in terms of his potential. Like you said he does so many things even when he isn't scoring his usual amount of points. Look I have never disliked melo and I have learned to appreciate his good traits like being able to score in a variety of ways and rebounding. However at this point I do feel it is time to let our emerging superstar take the reigns and for melo to kinda slide into number 2 role. I actually think it is a good thing for melo and for us. he wont have that type of pressure anymore and it will give KP even more confidence

WOW...Hope you have a fire extinguisher handy, you pants are about to explode...

Come on holfresh why does everything have to be a issue between us. I think you're a good due and a great fan. Lets just enjoy the Knicks and hope the winning streak continues.

So does that mean we're cool ?

Of course..But just a question tho..Why don't you want KP to earn his role on this team instead of just given to him?

He is earning it. Without him we would be in trouble

And how do you come to that conclusion especially after watching last night?

Every player has an off night. Lets be honest Melo wasn't exactly playing like a HOF the previous 3 games before last night

Well my point is that a player has to show he can carry the load night in and night out before unseating a guy like Melo who has carried 50 win teams for the last decade...

You still have no clue what KP will physically look like in the second half with all the minutes he is logging..This is new territory for him...Instead of using Melo and Rose to ease into the role, you think he can handle the load a scrutiny..When he becomes the man, people will notice a no name like Bjelicia was torching him last night...

I just feel its been a long time since we had this type of talent who is gonna get even better . Maybe since Ewing. Anyway besides KP I'm very happy about Willy and Kuz as well who have really been a spark off the bench

Well don't forget winning is a talent too..KLove can attest to that..

I agree winning is the most important. I know we disagree about KP vs Melo BUT in the end we both want the knicks to win...thats all that matters. If KP has a bad night and melo has a big night I will be happy and vice versa

But it just seems like it not about winning, Your theme and others this year has been KP should be number one, not winning...I think that's why you see threads like this..

Its NEVER been my theme. I want this team to win so Damn badly no matter what. This is kinda why I get aggravated sometimes is when I get questioned for being a "true" fan. I have been a basketball guy my entire life both athletically and as a die hard knick fan. I try to be as honest as possible even if it isn't the most popular things to say. I admit when we first drafted KP I WAS NOT happy. I thought he would be either a project or another euro player who never makes it. I'm glad a I was wrong because other that Towns he has been the best rookie in that class by a mile. So of course I'm excited to see him become a superstar especially since we haven't had a homegrown one for years. But despite that I truly menat what I said....as long as the Knicks win I'm happy

But he is not a superstar...You don't even pay attention to how he gets his points...You don't even pay attention to see who is on the floor attracting the attention for KP to get the open looks he is getting..You think he is taking wide open threes because he is talented...When KP becomes the man, the defenders they put on Melo, they will start putting on KP..And when he starts scoring on them, with other guys flashing at him at the same time, then he will be a superstar...

Don't say I don't pay attention. I know melo is superman apparently but you gotta give a little credit to KP

Sure, I give KP lots of credit, he is a very good player but superstar???

I said "become a superstar" I didn't say he was there yet. I don't think we have a superstar to be honest. I mean LeBron james is a superstar, steph curry, Durant...those type of guys. KAT is on his way there too

Right, Melo won the scoring title and led the team to 54 wins and second round, when we had not gotten that far in a decade, yet you say KP after scoring 30 pts is the first superstar we had since Ewing..KAT hasn't won jack...Unibrow took his team to the playoffs, that's a superstar...

Melo's biggest sin is that he's not Lebron. Ironic, I would bet anything "those type of guys" consider Melo a superstar though many of his team's fans don't.

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blkexec wrote:KP is a humble kidd from another country. He doesn't come off as a selfish player, which has been melos label for years. KP gives 100 effort on both ends, not just when he has the ball in his hands. This makes KP easy to root for and easy to forgive his bad shooting days, since he impacts the game is so many other areas.

I agree with your post. However he doesn't had many bad shooting games. he has been a pretty consistent 20 ppg player this year and he hasn't even reached the tip of the iceberg in terms of his potential. Like you said he does so many things even when he isn't scoring his usual amount of points. Look I have never disliked melo and I have learned to appreciate his good traits like being able to score in a variety of ways and rebounding. However at this point I do feel it is time to let our emerging superstar take the reigns and for melo to kinda slide into number 2 role. I actually think it is a good thing for melo and for us. he wont have that type of pressure anymore and it will give KP even more confidence

WOW...Hope you have a fire extinguisher handy, you pants are about to explode...

Come on holfresh why does everything have to be a issue between us. I think you're a good due and a great fan. Lets just enjoy the Knicks and hope the winning streak continues.

So does that mean we're cool ?

Of course..But just a question tho..Why don't you want KP to earn his role on this team instead of just given to him?

He is earning it. Without him we would be in trouble

And where do you suggest we would be without Melo?