Knicks · good read on the Melo thing with tons of direct quotes (page 1)
WASHINGTON — Carmelo Anthony revealed on Tuesday that any decision about his future in New York will come down to family first.Anthony, who denied a report that he's given the Knicks a wish list of teams he would agree to join — including the Boston Celtics — indicated that he would only make a move if it was right for his family.
"That's more about what I care about, my family," he said early Tuesday. "My son being comfortable in New York at an age now where he's really getting an opportunity to understand being in New York and having a home there and having friends there.
"My wife working there and having opportunities there. … I think about that more so than my decision for my career. At the end of the day, it will come down to my decision. But I think more about my decision and what they're going to have to go through if anything would happen."
Anthony, who enjoys playing and living New York, cited his family as a reason why he re-signed with the Knicks three years ago. He also owns a home in Los Angeles.
The Boston Globe reported that the Celtics have not given up on acquiring Anthony. The paper said that Anthony would be open to a trade to Boston. The Daily News reported last week that the Knicks are mulling a deal for Austin Rivers and Jamal Crawford. ESPN also reported that the Cavs turned down a trade for Anthony that would have included Kevin Love.
Camelo Anthony says that he hasn’t really thought about moving to another team.
"I haven't told anybody anything," Anthony said of a reported "wish list" he's given to Phil Jackson. "I haven't had that conversation with anybody."
Anthony, though, is close to both LeBron James and Chris Paul and they've all talked about playing together one day. But he seemed uncomfortable answering whether the chance to play with a friend on a contending team would be hard to turn down.
"That's a difficult question because I have some close friends on a lot of different teams," he said.
When the reporter said that it seems to be two or three teams in particular, Anthony replied: "That's the only three teams I hear. … Those considerations and thoughts will always be. That's something we all think about as athletes, try to play with another. We talk about it from high school and college. These are conversations that we've had years before any of this ever came up.
Anthony would not identify any potential teams but when asked specifically about the rival Boston Celtics he declined to comment.
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"I never even thought about it," he said. "You might see it (as) weird. But I never even thought about any of these situations. Every day is a new team is a new situation. That's what happens when you're going through the trade talks and there's always a different scenario.He later added: "I'm going to have the same answer; no answer. I really don't know what to say about that. It's not something I'm thinking about. I hear the new report every day. Every day is a new team. Every day is 'Melo said this, Melo said that.' Melo hasn't said anything yet. That's what I will say, 'Melo hasn't said anything.'
Anthony reiterated that if the organization determined that they want to rebuild he would consider waiving his no-trade clause. But as of now, the Knicks have met with him to discuss the future of both the team and their best player.
"At this point I don't think it will be any day-to-day conversations," he said. "If it's something that's imminent that they want to come to me and talk to me about, I'm pretty sure I'll get that meeting or get that phone call. There are no conversations happening with me on a consistent basis or day to day basis."
Phil hasn't made a solid trade yet, but some how ppl think he he's clever enough to come up with a trade favoring the knicks..HA!!
Camelo Anthony says that he hasn’t really thought about moving to another team.
"I haven't told anybody anything," Anthony said of a reported "wish list" he's given to Phil Jackson. "I haven't had that conversation with anybody."
This is huge if true. How can you be engaging teams with the intent of moving Melo if he might negate the trade. Marks on a podcast the other day said there is no way you do that without a list and assurances from the player that he would accept a trade there.
CrushAlot wrote:Camelo Anthony says that he hasn’t really thought about moving to another team.
"I haven't told anybody anything," Anthony said of a reported "wish list" he's given to Phil Jackson. "I haven't had that conversation with anybody."
This is huge if true. How can you be engaging teams with the intent of moving Melo if he might negate the trade. Marks on a podcast the other day said there is no way you do that without a list and assurances from the player that he would accept a trade there.
This is what players do, they say that THEY have not talked to management, but surely his agent or someone on his behalf could. It's the semantic game everyone plays.
martin wrote:Maybe but it is a direct quote and a denial. Also, he did meet with Phil.CrushAlot wrote:Camelo Anthony says that he hasn’t really thought about moving to another team.
"I haven't told anybody anything," Anthony said of a reported "wish list" he's given to Phil Jackson. "I haven't had that conversation with anybody."
This is huge if true. How can you be engaging teams with the intent of moving Melo if he might negate the trade. Marks on a podcast the other day said there is no way you do that without a list and assurances from the player that he would accept a trade there.This is what players do, they say that THEY have not talked to management, but surely his agent or someone on his behalf could. It's the semantic game everyone plays.
martin wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Camelo Anthony says that he hasn’t really thought about moving to another team.
"I haven't told anybody anything," Anthony said of a reported "wish list" he's given to Phil Jackson. "I haven't had that conversation with anybody."
This is huge if true. How can you be engaging teams with the intent of moving Melo if he might negate the trade. Marks on a podcast the other day said there is no way you do that without a list and assurances from the player that he would accept a trade there.This is what players do, they say that THEY have not talked to management, but surely his agent or someone on his behalf could. It's the semantic game everyone plays.
Eh, Not having that conversation with anybody could also mean his agent..Also Melo strikes me as some one who will be having that conversation, not his agent...Also, Melo has always been straight forward with no games...
knicks1248 wrote:So you can't trade him to any avg to below avg team, and it has to be a damn good deal for him to up root his family.Phil hasn't made a solid trade yet, but some how ppl think he he's clever enough to come up with a trade favoring the knicks..HA!!
And you think he's clever enough to build a good team if we keep Melo?
Bonn1997 wrote:knicks1248 wrote:So you can't trade him to any avg to below avg team, and it has to be a damn good deal for him to up root his family.Phil hasn't made a solid trade yet, but some how ppl think he he's clever enough to come up with a trade favoring the knicks..HA!!
And you think he's clever enough to build a good team if we keep Melo?
So where is the problem, on the court or in the front office?
CrushAlot wrote:martin wrote:Maybe but it is a direct quote and a denial. Also, he did meet with Phil.CrushAlot wrote:Camelo Anthony says that he hasn’t really thought about moving to another team.
"I haven't told anybody anything," Anthony said of a reported "wish list" he's given to Phil Jackson. "I haven't had that conversation with anybody."
This is huge if true. How can you be engaging teams with the intent of moving Melo if he might negate the trade. Marks on a podcast the other day said there is no way you do that without a list and assurances from the player that he would accept a trade there.This is what players do, they say that THEY have not talked to management, but surely his agent or someone on his behalf could. It's the semantic game everyone plays.
Great. Rosen directly said he did not talk to Phil in regards to his articles. I am pretty sure you are not on the other side of the fence with that.
martin wrote:CrushAlot wrote:martin wrote:Maybe but it is a direct quote and a denial. Also, he did meet with Phil.CrushAlot wrote:Camelo Anthony says that he hasn’t really thought about moving to another team.
"I haven't told anybody anything," Anthony said of a reported "wish list" he's given to Phil Jackson. "I haven't had that conversation with anybody."
This is huge if true. How can you be engaging teams with the intent of moving Melo if he might negate the trade. Marks on a podcast the other day said there is no way you do that without a list and assurances from the player that he would accept a trade there.This is what players do, they say that THEY have not talked to management, but surely his agent or someone on his behalf could. It's the semantic game everyone plays.
Great. Rosen directly said he did not talk to Phil in regards to his articles. I am pretty sure you are not on the other side of the fence with that.
Phil keeps Rosen's livelihood going because he gives Rosen exclusives which people tend to read..Otherwise, Rosen is not a sort after writer. Rosen knows who his meal ticket is..I find it very difficult to believe he won't consult Phil before writing something that will clearly affect his team and his organization...
martin wrote:Melo is making the statement. Phil isn't saying anything about the Rosen articles. It could go both ways but one of the individuals involved is actually saying something. I give Melo's actual words a bit more weight but it is hard to understand how a front office could be pursuing things if a conversation didn't happen.CrushAlot wrote:martin wrote:Maybe but it is a direct quote and a denial. Also, he did meet with Phil.CrushAlot wrote:Camelo Anthony says that he hasn’t really thought about moving to another team.
"I haven't told anybody anything," Anthony said of a reported "wish list" he's given to Phil Jackson. "I haven't had that conversation with anybody."
This is huge if true. How can you be engaging teams with the intent of moving Melo if he might negate the trade. Marks on a podcast the other day said there is no way you do that without a list and assurances from the player that he would accept a trade there.This is what players do, they say that THEY have not talked to management, but surely his agent or someone on his behalf could. It's the semantic game everyone plays.
Great. Rosen directly said he did not talk to Phil in regards to his articles. I am pretty sure you are not on the other side of the fence with that.
holfresh wrote:This. If nothing else, if Rosen writes it it gives the appearance that it is from Phil. Melo doesn't react often to all of the media bs he faces. This was unique because of who wrote it and where it came from.martin wrote:CrushAlot wrote:martin wrote:Maybe but it is a direct quote and a denial. Also, he did meet with Phil.CrushAlot wrote:Camelo Anthony says that he hasn’t really thought about moving to another team.
"I haven't told anybody anything," Anthony said of a reported "wish list" he's given to Phil Jackson. "I haven't had that conversation with anybody."
This is huge if true. How can you be engaging teams with the intent of moving Melo if he might negate the trade. Marks on a podcast the other day said there is no way you do that without a list and assurances from the player that he would accept a trade there.This is what players do, they say that THEY have not talked to management, but surely his agent or someone on his behalf could. It's the semantic game everyone plays.
Great. Rosen directly said he did not talk to Phil in regards to his articles. I am pretty sure you are not on the other side of the fence with that.
Phil keeps Rosen's livelihood going because he gives Rosen exclusives which people tend to read..Otherwise, Rosen is not a sort after writer. Rosen knows who his meal ticket is..I find it very difficult to believe he won't consult Phil before writing something that will clearly affect his team and his organization...
CrushAlot wrote:holfresh wrote:This. If nothing else, if Rosen writes it it gives the appearance that it is from Phil. Melo doesn't react often to all of the media bs he faces. This was unique because of who wrote it and where it came from.martin wrote:CrushAlot wrote:martin wrote:Maybe but it is a direct quote and a denial. Also, he did meet with Phil.CrushAlot wrote:Camelo Anthony says that he hasn’t really thought about moving to another team.
"I haven't told anybody anything," Anthony said of a reported "wish list" he's given to Phil Jackson. "I haven't had that conversation with anybody."
This is huge if true. How can you be engaging teams with the intent of moving Melo if he might negate the trade. Marks on a podcast the other day said there is no way you do that without a list and assurances from the player that he would accept a trade there.This is what players do, they say that THEY have not talked to management, but surely his agent or someone on his behalf could. It's the semantic game everyone plays.
Great. Rosen directly said he did not talk to Phil in regards to his articles. I am pretty sure you are not on the other side of the fence with that.
Phil keeps Rosen's livelihood going because he gives Rosen exclusives which people tend to read..Otherwise, Rosen is not a sort after writer. Rosen knows who his meal ticket is..I find it very difficult to believe he won't consult Phil before writing something that will clearly affect his team and his organization...
Melo assumes its Phil, the beat writers assumes its Phil...They are a lot closer to the situation than we are...
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Bonn1997 wrote:knicks1248 wrote:So you can't trade him to any avg to below avg team, and it has to be a damn good deal for him to up root his family.Phil hasn't made a solid trade yet, but some how ppl think he he's clever enough to come up with a trade favoring the knicks..HA!!
And you think he's clever enough to build a good team if we keep Melo?
He said he was rebuilding when he dump Jr,, shump and every contract on the books 24 months ago. So are were going to rebuild every 2 yrs?
Oh yeah, did he sign lee and Noah in the prime of their careers, to help rebuild, is that the pitch he use?
CrushAlot wrote:martin wrote:Melo is making the statement. Phil isn't saying anything about the Rosen articles. It could go both ways but one of the individuals involved is actually saying something. I give Melo's actual words a bit more weight but it is hard to understand how a front office could be pursuing things if a conversation didn't happen.CrushAlot wrote:martin wrote:Maybe but it is a direct quote and a denial. Also, he did meet with Phil.CrushAlot wrote:Camelo Anthony says that he hasn’t really thought about moving to another team.
"I haven't told anybody anything," Anthony said of a reported "wish list" he's given to Phil Jackson. "I haven't had that conversation with anybody."
This is huge if true. How can you be engaging teams with the intent of moving Melo if he might negate the trade. Marks on a podcast the other day said there is no way you do that without a list and assurances from the player that he would accept a trade there.This is what players do, they say that THEY have not talked to management, but surely his agent or someone on his behalf could. It's the semantic game everyone plays.
Great. Rosen directly said he did not talk to Phil in regards to his articles. I am pretty sure you are not on the other side of the fence with that.
You believe Melo when he makes a direct statement but not Rosen? I have not talked about Phil or what he has or hasn't said to media, you brought that in for no reason.
holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:knicks1248 wrote:So you can't trade him to any avg to below avg team, and it has to be a damn good deal for him to up root his family.Phil hasn't made a solid trade yet, but some how ppl think he he's clever enough to come up with a trade favoring the knicks..HA!!
And you think he's clever enough to build a good team if we keep Melo?
So where is the problem, on the court or in the front office?
Since the trade talk the team has IMPROVED its play and Melo in particular seems to be playing with some fire.
We need a real PG.
We need some défense.
With Melo that's the case without him as well.
I've always been open to keeping him. Just get Rose far far away from the team if we keep Melo.
martin wrote:CrushAlot wrote:martin wrote:Melo is making the statement. Phil isn't saying anything about the Rosen articles. It could go both ways but one of the individuals involved is actually saying something. I give Melo's actual words a bit more weight but it is hard to understand how a front office could be pursuing things if a conversation didn't happen.CrushAlot wrote:martin wrote:Maybe but it is a direct quote and a denial. Also, he did meet with Phil.CrushAlot wrote:Camelo Anthony says that he hasn’t really thought about moving to another team.
"I haven't told anybody anything," Anthony said of a reported "wish list" he's given to Phil Jackson. "I haven't had that conversation with anybody."
This is huge if true. How can you be engaging teams with the intent of moving Melo if he might negate the trade. Marks on a podcast the other day said there is no way you do that without a list and assurances from the player that he would accept a trade there.This is what players do, they say that THEY have not talked to management, but surely his agent or someone on his behalf could. It's the semantic game everyone plays.
Great. Rosen directly said he did not talk to Phil in regards to his articles. I am pretty sure you are not on the other side of the fence with that.
You believe Melo when he makes a direct statement but not Rosen? I have not talked about Phil or what he has or hasn't said to media, you brought that in for no reason.
What are you claiming Rosen wrote that people don't believe? And absolutely believe Melo. He has nothing to gain by lying. Already has his money, will get a kicker if he gets traded and doesn't give two turds what anyone else thinks on his position on a possible trade. Rosen? But again, are you saying that some don't believe Rosen's commemts were coming from front office and Phil?
HofstraBBall wrote:martin wrote:CrushAlot wrote:martin wrote:Melo is making the statement. Phil isn't saying anything about the Rosen articles. It could go both ways but one of the individuals involved is actually saying something. I give Melo's actual words a bit more weight but it is hard to understand how a front office could be pursuing things if a conversation didn't happen.CrushAlot wrote:martin wrote:Maybe but it is a direct quote and a denial. Also, he did meet with Phil.CrushAlot wrote:Camelo Anthony says that he hasn’t really thought about moving to another team.
"I haven't told anybody anything," Anthony said of a reported "wish list" he's given to Phil Jackson. "I haven't had that conversation with anybody."
This is huge if true. How can you be engaging teams with the intent of moving Melo if he might negate the trade. Marks on a podcast the other day said there is no way you do that without a list and assurances from the player that he would accept a trade there.This is what players do, they say that THEY have not talked to management, but surely his agent or someone on his behalf could. It's the semantic game everyone plays.
Great. Rosen directly said he did not talk to Phil in regards to his articles. I am pretty sure you are not on the other side of the fence with that.
You believe Melo when he makes a direct statement but not Rosen? I have not talked about Phil or what he has or hasn't said to media, you brought that in for no reason.
What are you claiming Rosen wrote that people don't believe? And absolutely believe Melo. He has nothing to gain by lying. Already has his money, will get a kicker if he gets traded and doesn't give two turds what anyone else thinks on his position on a possible trade. Rosen? But again, are you saying that some don't believe Rosen's commemts were coming from front office and Phil?
all I am trying to do is get a read on Crush's opinion about what he believes when direct statements are made.