Nalod wrote:I recall reading that Rose played better in the last third of the season.
The injury, an orbital facial fracture really delayed his season start. As it were, once back it was a healthy season for him regarding his legs and his last thirty or so games he showed very good play.
Thats a lot of rust to shake off!I know its only cool to point out the best in Non Knicks (don't post when THJ has an average game), or when Pop, a top 10 all time coach in the NBA's history, does something good with the second best all around player in the game, (Kawhi, two time defender player of the year), sits for a minute to discuss something with this coach.
Obviously, few coach's do this. You didn't know until you saw it on tv and Hubie brown pointed it out. From that, you draw assumptions. You draw a lot.
Draw the W-L record. That tells the story. Kawhi and Pop also have continuity. Knicks have revolving coaching staff and players.
I seem to recall his scoring picking up but his defense plummeting to close the season
Nalod wrote:holfresh wrote:Nalod wrote:holfresh wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:holfresh wrote:knicks1248 wrote:I can't understand how rose misses so many passes..it really is amazing, and how does the coaching staff do not insist on him passing..They need to have practices where no one shoots like pop does
No training camp and no consistency in style of play...Triagle then the change..Rose, as well, makes up his mind to go hard to the hole when he makes his first step..But it's correctable...We watch our players go to other teams and make adjustments to be better players...No doubt in my mind it will happen to Rose..
Rose played like that way before he got to NY. He needs to turn himself into a pg and Kern how to draw contact.
Rose played the way he had to because he was the offense of the Bulls and the coach was unimaginative..But Rose had better assist numbers on the Bulls and the team played better team defense..They were a better coached team..But he has showed he is willing to make adjustments..He doesn't always go hard..
The fact that he doesn't take contact when it's easy is puzzling...If that's not coaching, I don't know what is..It's way too easy...KP also has regressed...It's coaching..Only guy impervious to all ineptness from the coaching staff is Melo..That's why you see no other offense than ISO Melo..Woodson had more diversity with Felton running the point..
How has he regressed? He was uneven last year, still uneven, but less so.
SEASON TEAM GP GS MIN FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OR DR REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
'15-'16 NY 72 72 28.4 5.2-12.3 .421 1.1-3.4 .333 2.8-3.3 .838 1.8 5.5 7.3 1.3 1.9 0.7 2.8 1.7 14.3
'16-'17 NY 48 47 33.1 6.8-15.0 .451 1.9-5.0 .387 3.1-3.9 .782 1.7 5.4 7.1 1.3 2.0 0.7 3.9 1.8 18.5
I should have been clearer..His play has regressed from the start of the season...We can break down my observation on that front too but I think we will get lost in the weeds...
Yes, KP has regressed from the first 25 games. Heal has been a problem. Allstar god to very very good play, albeit uneven.
Regarding Horny, Yeah, he is not Pop. Its also why one can't totally dismiss the win against them. Pop wants to win them all. I would agree also Parker was not held to a high standard. I'll give our boys some credit on Aldridge though. I'll also take the win.
Nugg's beat GSW two nites ago. I know we sucked against them prior, but they are not a pushover team. GSW likely mailed it in on them, but never the less.........
Regarding Rose, I find the whole subject of him so very interesting. His game has many facets and his explosive ability is crazy. Now, can it be harnessed and refined? Can we get that Jumper with some arch?
Would he be better off without Melo? Or shall we say, "KNicks" better off without Melo???
I know many here have their minds made up, but we dont' know the extend of his AWOL event, or what Phil thinks of his game and place going forward.
LIke Melo, he is not my favorite personality but he came at a great discount (for a reason) and has great potential.
I agree with you on Rose, I think he is intriguing and too easily dismissed on this board...
nyknickzingis wrote:crzymdups wrote:Nalod wrote:Rose>Hardaway JR.
Not since 2012.
I'm no Rose fan
But Rose is a better player than THj for sure
Doesn't mean I'd rather have Rose long term The move comes down to THj vs Holiday. I don't think Rose will be a Knick next year.
Right - I agree. Like I said up thread somewhere, I think Justin Holiday has the potential to be developed into a Kent Bazemore type player. Just a question if the Knicks can be the ones to do that. Player development is something I hope Hornacek and Phil can install here. It will be important for Willy, KP, the draft pick this year, and guys like Holiday and Baker.
