Jalen Rose covered this years ago on a Grantland podcast. Former players with long standing histories with one franchise get a ton of benefits from said franchise. But they have to toe a certain line. Last thing you need is former high profile players being distractions in the press by saying negative things about the team.
No one is above being diplomatic in situations like this. Even in real life, people here, you have to take the situation into context. You just can't say and do whatever you want, when you want, and in public, without some kind of backlash. If the company hires the bosses nephew in your unit, you just can't run roughshod over the kid. You can't speak to them without consider what words they might repeat to your boss, etc,etc. A lot of this is just adult common sense.
Could Dolan be in the total wrong? Sure, maybe. But Oakley has to be smart enough to play the "game" here. He has more to lose and less to gain by going to war with Dolan in public. ( Players are a fraternity sure, but so are the owners, even if the owners hate each other, he's just not killing his chances with the Knicks, he's killing off his opportunities with other teams. Jose Canseco was RIGHT. He was publicly VINDICATED. But it did not stop MLB from basically blackballing him from anything to do with MLB FOREVER. Being RIGHT isn't enough in this case, not in context)
When in Rome, do as the Romans do. That's one saying. The other is "find a Roman peace" Which means kill everyone, and now you have peace. Oakley chose the latter, and now he has to eat the fallout. Being "Right" is critical when someone is gunning for your dignity. In this case, mostly it appears it's about pride.
TripleThreat wrote:Jalen Rose covered this years ago on a Grantland podcast. Former players with long standing histories with one franchise get a ton of benefits from said franchise. But they have to toe a certain line. Last thing you need is former high profile players being distractions in the press by saying negative things about the team. No one is above being diplomatic in situations like this. Even in real life, people here, you have to take the situation into context. You just can't say and do whatever you want, when you want, and in public, without some kind of backlash. If the company hires the bosses nephew in your unit, you just can't run roughshod over the kid. You can't speak to them without consider what words they might repeat to your boss, etc,etc. A lot of this is just adult common sense.
Could Dolan be in the total wrong? Sure, maybe. But Oakley has to be smart enough to play the "game" here. He has more to lose and less to gain by going to war with Dolan in public. ( Players are a fraternity sure, but so are the owners, even if the owners hate each other, he's just not killing his chances with the Knicks, he's killing off his opportunities with other teams. Jose Canseco was RIGHT. He was publicly VINDICATED. But it did not stop MLB from basically blackballing him from anything to do with MLB FOREVER. Being RIGHT isn't enough in this case, not in context)
When in Rome, do as the Romans do. That's one saying. The other is "find a Roman peace" Which means kill everyone, and now you have peace. Oakley chose the latter, and now he has to eat the fallout. Being "Right" is critical when someone is gunning for your dignity. In this case, mostly it appears it's about pride.
There is a diplomatic path which would now require Oak to sell out. One can be disappointed and supportive of the current efforts. Oak when critical seemed to be promoting himself at the expense of doing so.
Don't take the free tickets and other perks while seemingly unsupportive to the current efforts.
I go to parties and if someone is going off on politics, and wants to know my take, I try to take a diplomatic approach.....Things like "well, its complicated, I see the intent but the execution has been unfortunate, I hope for a better outcome or a more reasonable approach to the next issue........" That's what I say when im drinking someones vodka and eating their shrimp! I didn't sell out.
Oak is not know for his smooth edges. I get it. He has to meet Dolan and compromise I some capacity. We all do.
Even Dolan did by sitting with Spree. They found a way. Even if it was for PR purpose, they both found a way.
Nalod wrote:TripleThreat wrote:Jalen Rose covered this years ago on a Grantland podcast. Former players with long standing histories with one franchise get a ton of benefits from said franchise. But they have to toe a certain line. Last thing you need is former high profile players being distractions in the press by saying negative things about the team. No one is above being diplomatic in situations like this. Even in real life, people here, you have to take the situation into context. You just can't say and do whatever you want, when you want, and in public, without some kind of backlash. If the company hires the bosses nephew in your unit, you just can't run roughshod over the kid. You can't speak to them without consider what words they might repeat to your boss, etc,etc. A lot of this is just adult common sense.
Could Dolan be in the total wrong? Sure, maybe. But Oakley has to be smart enough to play the "game" here. He has more to lose and less to gain by going to war with Dolan in public. ( Players are a fraternity sure, but so are the owners, even if the owners hate each other, he's just not killing his chances with the Knicks, he's killing off his opportunities with other teams. Jose Canseco was RIGHT. He was publicly VINDICATED. But it did not stop MLB from basically blackballing him from anything to do with MLB FOREVER. Being RIGHT isn't enough in this case, not in context)
When in Rome, do as the Romans do. That's one saying. The other is "find a Roman peace" Which means kill everyone, and now you have peace. Oakley chose the latter, and now he has to eat the fallout. Being "Right" is critical when someone is gunning for your dignity. In this case, mostly it appears it's about pride.
There is a diplomatic path which would now require Oak to sell out. One can be disappointed and supportive of the current efforts. Oak when critical seemed to be promoting himself at the expense of doing so.
Don't take the free tickets and other perks while seemingly unsupportive to the current efforts.
I go to parties and if someone is going off on politics, and wants to know my take, I try to take a diplomatic approach.....Things like "well, its complicated, I see the intent but the execution has been unfortunate, I hope for a better outcome or a more reasonable approach to the next issue........" That's what I say when im drinking someones vodka and eating their shrimp! I didn't sell out.
Oak is not know for his smooth edges. I get it. He has to meet Dolan and compromise I some capacity. We all do.
Even Dolan did by sitting with Spree. They found a way. Even if it was for PR purpose, they both found a way.
According to Oak, he has reached out to Dolan and has been rebuffed. And given Dolan's history, paranoid nature, and policies at MSG it is totally believable he won't talk to Oak because he's been critical of the owner.
where is the evidence oakley was a problem until he was annoyed by security? he was rightfully pissed that security was told to give him a hard time. he didn't handle it well from then on, but still... am i missing the testimony where he was a problem before security came over?
what someone said earlier was likely right on, which is that security and dolan probly just freaked when they saw his seat was so close.
CrushAlot wrote:
Haha, just came here to post that. Hope Silver talked some sense into them.
I really like Silver. Good job to step in.
