Knicks · NBA Commissioner Adam Silver statement on Dolan / Oak (page 3)
Oak looks bad too. Really bad.
Both Lose. One thing we know is Dolan is a little Napoleonic shyt.
Oak is a bully who holds his self esteem up by being "Oak don't take".........
In a world where blame must be assigned and media eyeballs must be observed, I'd say who the phuck cares. Dolan is a hermit who likes to go to games.
Oak is a "Celebrity" who by being "Oak", gets more attention. I fault both of them and the whole thing bores me.
The fact dolans name is in the same sentence with Donald Sterling is a MF problem, phil's posse comments to labron, Rose No show, no call, no suspension..This franchise is complete CIRCUS.
99.9% of the NBA is still scratching their head as to why he had to buy a ticket, that alone is a MAAAAAAAAJORR problem.
knicks1248 wrote:99.9% of the NBA is still scratching their head as to why he had to buy a ticket, that alone is a MAAAAAAAAJORR problem.
The players union lost the last labor war and they lost it badly. While the cap went up and max money went up, the union had to make a lot of concessions it did not want to make.
Rip Hamilton mocking John Kuester
The Nuggets doing a sit out of practice because they hated their coach
Horry throwing a towel in Ainge's face
Baron Davis getting fat and mailing it in and Sterling ripping him from the sidelines
Eddy Curry hitting the bottle and not caring
It all adds up. It all adds up and during every labor war, that resentment from the owners side comes out and they turn the screws into the players.
Oakley is now league blackballed. He's a dead man walking now. If a team hired him for ANYTHING, they know he'd run to the press, maybe use the race card, use anything, and try to hurt the franchise. There might be a time when Oakley will need the NBA far far more than they need him, and when that happens, the NBA will turn it's back on him. Players will say whatever they want, but if Oakley was starving and homeless, you think 99 percent of them would give a flying f**k?
I'm not saying Dolan is a saint here. He comes off like an idiot. But many NBA players just seem completely out of touch with reality. They do and say things that just drives fans away from the game itself.
“I think Dolan’s a terrific owner. I really do,” Donald Sterling told the Daily News Thursday. “He does the best he can do, and unfortunately sometimes a player misunderstands. I was an owner for 33 years, and sometimes players misunderstand.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/donald-sterling-amazing-knicks-owner-compared-article-1.2974931
A ringing endorsement!
Rather go to jail? C'mon now, is this not out of hand?
NardDogNation wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:NardDogNation wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:Love how now all the same people that were against Oakley when the incident first happened are now turning against him because he just won't shut his mouth and just keeps on going with his bad talk about Dolan. Why did he even bother showing up to the A.Silver meeting? Everything was supposed to be done after that meeting and he got his apology and hand shake from Dolan. Oakley just keeps making himself look more and more worse. I knew he was in the wrong from the beginning and a couple others on here did to.So because they had a meeting...everything had to have been solved and has to automatically become honky-doory? You say you live in "the real world" but then make comments like this that seem really naive. I don't want to sound harsh but feel the need to be honest. You seem to have an agenda.
An agenda?? Please explain? Oakley is taking this way to far and this is a message board so i'm letting it be known that i feel he's taking it to far. I still would love to hear what kinda of agenda i could possibly have though?? Everyone has had very strong words towards Dolan and how they feel Dolan is so much in the wrong and over looking Oakley's part in this and i feel differently.
Fine, you think that Oakley is the guilty party in the matter but it seems like you take gigantic leaps of faith in an attempt to make the case. You've intimated on more than one occassion that Oakley specifically went to the game to troll Dolan, despite multiple accounts of fans stating the opposite and despite several players saying it's not Oakley's style. You've suggested that Oakley has a drinking problem but if he was drunk in the game, why haven't the police charged him with public intoxication? They tried charging him with everything they could, including trespassing as a paying customer. Yet you've accepted the MSG side of the story wholesale and then proceeded to reiterate some version of these shoddy points in as many different threads on the topic, you could find. Like I said, it feels like an agenda because of how fervent you are about the situation and how often you revert to the aformentioned talking points.
Good job of moving my words around to make it look as if i said something i didn't say. I intimated on more than one occasion that Oakley specifically went to the game to troll Oakley?? Show me?? All i said was what was being said by all the MSG employees from the front door of the building to the elevator to his seats. I suggested Oakley has a drinking problem?? Show me?? All i did was say that he admitted that he had drinks elsewhere before he got to the game. You say multiple fans said he wasn't yelling things and acting out of hand.....okay but there was also multiple fans saying he was so i guess you have decided to believe the fans that said he wasn't and i have decided to believe the multiple fans and 16 MSG employees that say he was...lol. Just because you don't agree with me doesn't mean you can twist my words around. I've said all along that both sides had parts that they were wrong in this whole fiasco but Oakley is the one that's coming out looking more wrong to me in this whole thing and he just can't let it go and just keeps saying things while shockingly Dolan is keeping quiet and trying to let it go. Oakley is obviously doing everything he can to set up his court case to get some money from Dolan. The only one in that whole fiasco that was throwing around racist comments was Oakley but i guess that's alright in this world we live in today.
Don't put words in my mouth.
fishmike wrote:Dolan doesnt have a racist bone in his body. You can still be a totally incompetent douche without being a racist.
His history has depicted that he hates himself more than anyone else.
StarksEwing1 wrote:As much as i hate Dolan i feel Oakley is acting just as immature. Despite what he says its obvious he is bitter from not having a job in the organization which i can understand. However lets be honest part of the reason he showed up to that game was to stir shit with dolan. Im not defending dolan because he is a ass but after the commissioner told him to knock it off he seems to be trying to move past the beef. Oakley is milking this thing and portraying himself as the victim. Both guys were wrong and they should just end it because it makes the knicks look bad
Dude, they like force dolan to meet up with him, after the commissioner got involved. the fact that dolan paid ex players to sit by his side to portray a different image, trumps anything oak says
fishmike wrote:Dolan doesnt have a racist bone in his body. You can still be a totally incompetent douche without being a racist.
True, but i don't think the argument is if he's a douche or not cause he doesn't have many fans, the argument that Oakley has now made is if he's a racist which he clearly isn't and if Oakl;ey was just looking to take a low blow at Dolan to match Dolan's low blow about him possibly being an alcoholic then he did that and more.
newyorker4ever wrote:fishmike wrote:Dolan doesnt have a racist bone in his body. You can still be a totally incompetent douche without being a racist.True, but i don't think the argument is if he's a douche or not cause he doesn't have many fans, the argument that Oakley has now made is if he's a racist which he clearly isn't and if Oakl;ey was just looking to take a low blow at Dolan to match Dolan's low blow about him possibly being an alcoholic then he did that and more.
how can you definitively say Dolan isn't racist? I don't think you can say he is. But I don't think you can say that "he clearly isn't" a racist either.
knicks1248 wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:As much as i hate Dolan i feel Oakley is acting just as immature. Despite what he says its obvious he is bitter from not having a job in the organization which i can understand. However lets be honest part of the reason he showed up to that game was to stir shit with dolan. Im not defending dolan because he is a ass but after the commissioner told him to knock it off he seems to be trying to move past the beef. Oakley is milking this thing and portraying himself as the victim. Both guys were wrong and they should just end it because it makes the knicks look badDude, they like force dolan to meet up with him, after the commissioner got involved. the fact that dolan paid ex players to sit by his side to portray a different image, trumps anything oak says
So i guess you're going off of an assumption cause you have zero proof that Sprewell was paid to come to that game...zero proof. Just cause some of our moron media people made that same assumption doesn't make it true.
Knicks1248 says Dolan was forced to that meeting which is also not known and if he was then maybe Oakley was also forced but in that meeting Dolan apologized, shook his hand and lifted the ban at MSG and what did Oakley do?? Nothing but make the matter worse then it already was.
knicks1248 wrote:This Entire thing is going to have serious ramifictions, From the players on the team (who took down their knicks logo's on social media) , to the spreewell fiasco, to the phils shots at melo, to the triangle, and the team onstantly switching up and losing.. WHO the fck would come here as a free agent.
The fact dolans name is in the same sentence with Donald Sterling is a MF problem, phil's posse comments to labron, Rose No show, no call, no suspension..This franchise is complete CIRCUS.99.9% of the NBA is still scratching their head as to why he had to buy a ticket, that alone is a MAAAAAAAAJORR problem.
The team is a shit show, for sure... Was Alan Houston was the last young FA we landed with promise?
knicks1248 wrote:oakley is the one dragging this on. Now he is even bashing ewing. Sooner or later people will get tired of it. Secondly im not defending dolan. I simply said that Oak is also being immatureStarksEwing1 wrote:As much as i hate Dolan i feel Oakley is acting just as immature. Despite what he says its obvious he is bitter from not having a job in the organization which i can understand. However lets be honest part of the reason he showed up to that game was to stir shit with dolan. Im not defending dolan because he is a ass but after the commissioner told him to knock it off he seems to be trying to move past the beef. Oakley is milking this thing and portraying himself as the victim. Both guys were wrong and they should just end it because it makes the knicks look badDude, they like force dolan to meet up with him, after the commissioner got involved. the fact that dolan paid ex players to sit by his side to portray a different image, trumps anything oak says
StarksEwing1 wrote:knicks1248 wrote:oakley is the one dragging this on. Now he is even bashing ewing. Sooner or later people will get tired of it. Secondly im not defending dolan. I simply said that Oak is also being immatureStarksEwing1 wrote:As much as i hate Dolan i feel Oakley is acting just as immature. Despite what he says its obvious he is bitter from not having a job in the organization which i can understand. However lets be honest part of the reason he showed up to that game was to stir shit with dolan. Im not defending dolan because he is a ass but after the commissioner told him to knock it off he seems to be trying to move past the beef. Oakley is milking this thing and portraying himself as the victim. Both guys were wrong and they should just end it because it makes the knicks look badDude, they like force dolan to meet up with him, after the commissioner got involved. the fact that dolan paid ex players to sit by his side to portray a different image, trumps anything oak says
All relationships are co-created. It's easy to blame Dolan for the long standing feud, but it takes two to tango- Oak has played his part- he can be very awkward and argumentative. Still don't agree with security kicking him out.
Im not clear on his beef now with Ewing, is it because Pat is not standing up for Oak?
newyorker4ever wrote:NardDogNation wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:NardDogNation wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:Love how now all the same people that were against Oakley when the incident first happened are now turning against him because he just won't shut his mouth and just keeps on going with his bad talk about Dolan. Why did he even bother showing up to the A.Silver meeting? Everything was supposed to be done after that meeting and he got his apology and hand shake from Dolan. Oakley just keeps making himself look more and more worse. I knew he was in the wrong from the beginning and a couple others on here did to.So because they had a meeting...everything had to have been solved and has to automatically become honky-doory? You say you live in "the real world" but then make comments like this that seem really naive. I don't want to sound harsh but feel the need to be honest. You seem to have an agenda.
An agenda?? Please explain? Oakley is taking this way to far and this is a message board so i'm letting it be known that i feel he's taking it to far. I still would love to hear what kinda of agenda i could possibly have though?? Everyone has had very strong words towards Dolan and how they feel Dolan is so much in the wrong and over looking Oakley's part in this and i feel differently.
Fine, you think that Oakley is the guilty party in the matter but it seems like you take gigantic leaps of faith in an attempt to make the case. You've intimated on more than one occassion that Oakley specifically went to the game to troll Dolan, despite multiple accounts of fans stating the opposite and despite several players saying it's not Oakley's style. You've suggested that Oakley has a drinking problem but if he was drunk in the game, why haven't the police charged him with public intoxication? They tried charging him with everything they could, including trespassing as a paying customer. Yet you've accepted the MSG side of the story wholesale and then proceeded to reiterate some version of these shoddy points in as many different threads on the topic, you could find. Like I said, it feels like an agenda because of how fervent you are about the situation and how often you revert to the aformentioned talking points.
Good job of moving my words around to make it look as if i said something i didn't say. I intimated on more than one occasion that Oakley specifically went to the game to troll Oakley?? Show me?? All i said was what was being said by all the MSG employees from the front door of the building to the elevator to his seats. I suggested Oakley has a drinking problem?? Show me?? All i did was say that he admitted that he had drinks elsewhere before he got to the game. You say multiple fans said he wasn't yelling things and acting out of hand.....okay but there was also multiple fans saying he was so i guess you have decided to believe the fans that said he wasn't and i have decided to believe the multiple fans and 16 MSG employees that say he was...lol. Just because you don't agree with me doesn't mean you can twist my words around. I've said all along that both sides had parts that they were wrong in this whole fiasco but Oakley is the one that's coming out looking more wrong to me in this whole thing and he just can't let it go and just keeps saying things while shockingly Dolan is keeping quiet and trying to let it go. Oakley is obviously doing everything he can to set up his court case to get some money from Dolan. The only one in that whole fiasco that was throwing around racist comments was Oakley but i guess that's alright in this world we live in today.Don't put words in my mouth.
Dude, I'm not combing through 5 threads worth of your replies to find specifically what you said. I don't have that type of time. And even if I did, I'm sure what would happen is that you'd have us playing a semantics game that leads to no where. But you have been towing the MSG line hard, which has provoked several objections by other posters. Clearly, your words are not being twisted to elicit a near unanimous rebuke from people commenting on the story.