Knicks · ESPN's 2017 NBA Management Rankings Top to Bottom (page 1)

We're ranking every front office in the NBA, and -- surprise, surprise -- the San Antonio Spurs, who will be making their 20th straight playoff appearance, are No. 1.

We asked our ESPN Forecast panel to rate every team's owner, basketball decision-maker(s) and coach from 0 to 10, and we then asked the panel to tell us how important each role is.

In particular, we asked the voters to rate each team's front-office management on its guidance and leadership in terms of how it affects overall on-court success, both in the short and long term. From there, we calculated the ratings to determine the NBA's best and worst front offices.

We'll break out the three categories -- coaches, team presidents/general managers and owners -- from Wednesday to Friday.

Today, we unveil our overall rankings, from top to bottom. (Close your eyes, Knicks fans.)

RANK FRANCHISE OVERALL OWNER/GM/COACH RATINGS
1 San Antonio Spurs 9.62 Coming later this week
2 Golden State Warriors 8.97 Coming later this week
3 Boston Celtics 8.56 Coming later this week
4 Houston Rockets 8.23 Coming later this week
5 Miami Heat 7.93 Coming later this week
6 Cleveland Cavaliers 7.57 Coming later this week
7 Dallas Mavericks 7.45 Coming later this week
8 Toronto Raptors 7.33 Coming later this week
9 Utah Jazz 7.27 Coming later this week
10 Oklahoma City Thunder 6.50 Coming later this week
11 Portland Trail Blazers 6.31 Coming later this week
12 Washington Wizards 6.23 Coming later this week
13 Memphis Grizzlies 6.14 Coming later this week
14 Atlanta Hawks 6.10 Coming later this week
15 Milwaukee Bucks 6.05 Coming later this week
16 Denver Nuggets 5.78 Coming later this week
17 LA Clippers 5.631 Coming later this week
18 Minnesota Timberwolves 5.627 Coming later this week
19 Indiana Pacers 5.53 Coming later this week
20 Detroit Pistons 5.51 Coming later this week
21 Charlotte Hornets 5.36 Coming later this week
22 Philadelphia 76ers 5.00 Coming later this week
23 Los Angeles Lakers 4.29 Coming later this week
24 Brooklyn Nets 3.97 Coming later this week
25 New Orleans Pelicans 3.96 Coming later this week
26 Phoenix Suns 3.92 Coming later this week
27 Orlando Magic 3.90 Coming later this week
28 Chicago Bulls 3.71 Coming later this week
29 Sacramento Kings 2.69 Coming later this week
30 New York Knicks 2.20 Coming later this week

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19017...

You have to be pretty bad to be below the Kings and Magic.

This is just a way to bash the Knicks. Fuck Espn... you mean Sacramento isn't worse? The Bucks? Minnesota? Brooklyn? Philly? Denver? Pelicans? Detroit? Charlotte?

Those that agree with ESPN Shame on you! All this self hate is sickening.... don't flip it back on our management. Every team I mentioned are just as shit faced as we are if not worse. Fuck ESPN!!!

EnySpree wrote:This is just a way to bash the Knicks. Fuck Espn... you mean Sacramento isn't worse? The Bucks? Minnesota? Brooklyn? Philly? Denver? Pelicans? Detroit? Charlotte?

Those that agree with ESPN Shame on you! All this self hate is sickening.... don't flip it back on our management. Every team I mentioned are just as shit faced as we are if not worse. Fuck ESPN!!!

The Knicks are bottom 25. I haven't heard any analyst speak highly of the NY front office. It will be interesting to see what the write ups are for the bottom 5. I thought Chicago had a really bad offseason and seems lost but I am a bit surprised they are as low as they are. Looking at this,

we asked the voters to rate each team's front-office management on its guidance and leadership in terms of how it affects overall on-court success, both in the short and long term.

you would rank the Knicks higher than those teams with the current front office? I don't see it.

On the bright side..We can't go any lower and we have room for the largest improvement..

CrushAlot wrote:

EnySpree wrote:This is just a way to bash the Knicks. Fuck Espn... you mean Sacramento isn't worse? The Bucks? Minnesota? Brooklyn? Philly? Denver? Pelicans? Detroit? Charlotte?

Those that agree with ESPN Shame on you! All this self hate is sickening.... don't flip it back on our management. Every team I mentioned are just as shit faced as we are if not worse. Fuck ESPN!!!

The Knicks are bottom 25. I haven't heard any analyst speak highly of the NY front office. It will be interesting to see what the write ups are for the bottom 5. I thought Chicago had a really bad offseason and seems lost but I am a bit surprised they are as low as they are. Looking at this,

we asked the voters to rate each team's front-office management on its guidance and leadership in terms of how it affects overall on-court success, both in the short and long term.

you would rank the Knicks higher than those teams with the current front office? I don't see it.

So Brooklyn should be ranked higher? They don't have a pick this year and they are the worse team I the nba. They gave up all their picks... they still have more to give up in the next few years. Garbage. Don't give me that bullshit that you don't see it. The Knicks are bad but flat out #30? That's just pure hate and self hate

EnySpree wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

EnySpree wrote:This is just a way to bash the Knicks. Fuck Espn... you mean Sacramento isn't worse? The Bucks? Minnesota? Brooklyn? Philly? Denver? Pelicans? Detroit? Charlotte?

Those that agree with ESPN Shame on you! All this self hate is sickening.... don't flip it back on our management. Every team I mentioned are just as shit faced as we are if not worse. Fuck ESPN!!!

The Knicks are bottom 25. I haven't heard any analyst speak highly of the NY front office. It will be interesting to see what the write ups are for the bottom 5. I thought Chicago had a really bad offseason and seems lost but I am a bit surprised they are as low as they are. Looking at this,

we asked the voters to rate each team's front-office management on its guidance and leadership in terms of how it affects overall on-court success, both in the short and long term.

you would rank the Knicks higher than those teams with the current front office? I don't see it.

So Brooklyn should be ranked higher? They don't have a pick this year and they are the worse team I the nba. They gave up all their picks... they still have more to give up in the next few years. Garbage. Don't give me that bullshit that you don't see it. The Knicks are bad but flat out #30? That's just pure hate and self hate

The criteria includes the long term. I think the Nets are trying to do it right with Marks and Atkinson. I would guess that is why they are higher up. I don't think the long term outlook is that good for the current Knicks management team.

CrushAlot wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

EnySpree wrote:This is just a way to bash the Knicks. Fuck Espn... you mean Sacramento isn't worse? The Bucks? Minnesota? Brooklyn? Philly? Denver? Pelicans? Detroit? Charlotte?

Those that agree with ESPN Shame on you! All this self hate is sickening.... don't flip it back on our management. Every team I mentioned are just as shit faced as we are if not worse. Fuck ESPN!!!

The Knicks are bottom 25. I haven't heard any analyst speak highly of the NY front office. It will be interesting to see what the write ups are for the bottom 5. I thought Chicago had a really bad offseason and seems lost but I am a bit surprised they are as low as they are. Looking at this,

we asked the voters to rate each team's front-office management on its guidance and leadership in terms of how it affects overall on-court success, both in the short and long term.

you would rank the Knicks higher than those teams with the current front office? I don't see it.

So Brooklyn should be ranked higher? They don't have a pick this year and they are the worse team I the nba. They gave up all their picks... they still have more to give up in the next few years. Garbage. Don't give me that bullshit that you don't see it. The Knicks are bad but flat out #30? That's just pure hate and self hate

The criteria includes the long term. I think the Nets are trying to do it right with Marks and Atkinson. I would guess that is why they are higher up. I don't think the long term outlook is that good for the current Knicks management team.

Why is the Nets outlook better tho? I don't really see how they have a better near term nor long term outlook than the Knicks who have 3 picks in this draft and all their picks going forward and already have some legit talent in place. Literally a couple of good players added in the draft or FA and the Knicks would jump many places higher than they are now. Brooklyn has fewer options to improve and are even lower than the Knicks IMO.

I wish that's the way 2017 nba draft order was determined..

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

EnySpree wrote:This is just a way to bash the Knicks. Fuck Espn... you mean Sacramento isn't worse? The Bucks? Minnesota? Brooklyn? Philly? Denver? Pelicans? Detroit? Charlotte?

Those that agree with ESPN Shame on you! All this self hate is sickening.... don't flip it back on our management. Every team I mentioned are just as shit faced as we are if not worse. Fuck ESPN!!!

The Knicks are bottom 25. I haven't heard any analyst speak highly of the NY front office. It will be interesting to see what the write ups are for the bottom 5. I thought Chicago had a really bad offseason and seems lost but I am a bit surprised they are as low as they are. Looking at this,

we asked the voters to rate each team's front-office management on its guidance and leadership in terms of how it affects overall on-court success, both in the short and long term.

you would rank the Knicks higher than those teams with the current front office? I don't see it.

So Brooklyn should be ranked higher? They don't have a pick this year and they are the worse team I the nba. They gave up all their picks... they still have more to give up in the next few years. Garbage. Don't give me that bullshit that you don't see it. The Knicks are bad but flat out #30? That's just pure hate and self hate

The criteria includes the long term. I think the Nets are trying to do it right with Marks and Atkinson. I would guess that is why they are higher up. I don't think the long term outlook is that good for the current Knicks management team.

Why is the Nets outlook better tho? I don't really see how they have a better near term nor long term outlook than the Knicks who have 3 picks in this draft and all their picks going forward and already have some legit talent in place. Literally a couple of good players added in the draft or FA and the Knicks would jump many places higher than they are now. Brooklyn has fewer options to improve and are even lower than the Knicks IMO.

The Nets have three picks as well. But I think it is more about a management/coach/ownership team working together and being on the same page. The Nets are committed to rebuilding and roles in the management/coaching team are defined.

CrushAlot wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

EnySpree wrote:This is just a way to bash the Knicks. Fuck Espn... you mean Sacramento isn't worse? The Bucks? Minnesota? Brooklyn? Philly? Denver? Pelicans? Detroit? Charlotte?

Those that agree with ESPN Shame on you! All this self hate is sickening.... don't flip it back on our management. Every team I mentioned are just as shit faced as we are if not worse. Fuck ESPN!!!

The Knicks are bottom 25. I haven't heard any analyst speak highly of the NY front office. It will be interesting to see what the write ups are for the bottom 5. I thought Chicago had a really bad offseason and seems lost but I am a bit surprised they are as low as they are. Looking at this,

we asked the voters to rate each team's front-office management on its guidance and leadership in terms of how it affects overall on-court success, both in the short and long term.

you would rank the Knicks higher than those teams with the current front office? I don't see it.

So Brooklyn should be ranked higher? They don't have a pick this year and they are the worse team I the nba. They gave up all their picks... they still have more to give up in the next few years. Garbage. Don't give me that bullshit that you don't see it. The Knicks are bad but flat out #30? That's just pure hate and self hate

The criteria includes the long term. I think the Nets are trying to do it right with Marks and Atkinson. I would guess that is why they are higher up. I don't think the long term outlook is that good for the current Knicks management team.

Why? You aren't making sense... they don't have their picks but the long term outlook is better because they have a first year coach and gm? That's that self hate again

The knicks have Kristaps and Willy..a tip pick coming... decent cap space and leverage for trades and the Nets are in a better situation? Disgusting

Sacramento just gave away Demarcus Cousins... they haven't won and had plenty of drama over the years. They want to hire a gm to help divac cuz he's an idiot. The owner is a nice guy but just as bad as Dolan when it comes to basketball. They drafted bums every year but the Knicks are worse?

Straight up trolling.

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

EnySpree wrote:This is just a way to bash the Knicks. Fuck Espn... you mean Sacramento isn't worse? The Bucks? Minnesota? Brooklyn? Philly? Denver? Pelicans? Detroit? Charlotte?

Those that agree with ESPN Shame on you! All this self hate is sickening.... don't flip it back on our management. Every team I mentioned are just as shit faced as we are if not worse. Fuck ESPN!!!

The Knicks are bottom 25. I haven't heard any analyst speak highly of the NY front office. It will be interesting to see what the write ups are for the bottom 5. I thought Chicago had a really bad offseason and seems lost but I am a bit surprised they are as low as they are. Looking at this,

we asked the voters to rate each team's front-office management on its guidance and leadership in terms of how it affects overall on-court success, both in the short and long term.

you would rank the Knicks higher than those teams with the current front office? I don't see it.

So Brooklyn should be ranked higher? They don't have a pick this year and they are the worse team I the nba. They gave up all their picks... they still have more to give up in the next few years. Garbage. Don't give me that bullshit that you don't see it. The Knicks are bad but flat out #30? That's just pure hate and self hate

The criteria includes the long term. I think the Nets are trying to do it right with Marks and Atkinson. I would guess that is why they are higher up. I don't think the long term outlook is that good for the current Knicks management team.

Why is the Nets outlook better tho? I don't really see how they have a better near term nor long term outlook than the Knicks who have 3 picks in this draft and all their picks going forward and already have some legit talent in place. Literally a couple of good players added in the draft or FA and the Knicks would jump many places higher than they are now. Brooklyn has fewer options to improve and are even lower than the Knicks IMO.

The Nets have three picks as well. But I think it is more about a management/coach/ownership team working together and being on the same page. The Nets are committed to rebuilding and roles in the management/coaching team are defined.

They are all rookies? Defind roles for rookie coaches and rookie gms? After year 1 which is stl in progress what kind of defind role did they establish.... That's garbage

Triangle, Trades, and Twitter. Would have to look at the other teams at the bottom more closely to see if the Knicks really deserve the last place, but going through coaches (and many players) to create the holy Triangle. Trades and deals that didn't achieve the desired results, and antagonizing players, and alienating stars on other teams with passive aggressive tweets, was not reponsible mgmt.

I supported most of the early trades and deals, some worked out better than I expected like DWill. Its when Phil went from a smart plan of gradually building around KP for the future, to building around Melo for short term gain (which never would have been enough to get us to the finals) that things really went awry.

My guess has always been that Phil was happy to follow his original course, but watching The Cavs and Warriors battling in the finals without him (or the Knicks) being in the conversation, convinced him to flush the plan and go for the quick fix.

27th worst, 28th, 30th who the fuck cares? This franchise as currently run deserves to be ranked near or at the bottom. This isnt a cult, its a professional sports franchise, and it has to be run better. All you have to do is look at the record.

Definitely some bright spots in drafting, signing newer players, but its not going to matter if this team doesn't settle on a plan, and a good one. A well run franchise is better able to absorb the occasional bad decision than one that is in almost constant turmoil.

They deserve to be at the bottom but you aren't going to rank the nets and sactown ahead of the Knicks like it's all good. That's straight bullshit trolling.

EnySpree wrote:The knicks have Kristaps and Willy..a tip pick coming... decent cap space and leverage for trades and the Nets are in a better situation? Disgusting

Had cap space last yr, had kp last yr, and we are on pace to have the same finish as last yr despite a massive overhaul to the roster

there is literally no reason the knicks should be as bad as we are/

last yr you blame calderone and afflalao, this yr rose and melo, next yr it will be what ever FA we sign that's clueless about the triangle

knicks1248 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:The knicks have Kristaps and Willy..a tip pick coming... decent cap space and leverage for trades and the Nets are in a better situation? Disgusting

Had cap space last yr, had kp last yr, and we are on pace to have the same finish as last yr despite a massive overhaul to the roster

there is literally no reason the knicks should be as bad as we are

That's fine and dandy...

But nobody is going to tell me the nets are in a better situation than us. Fuck espn

EnySpree wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:The knicks have Kristaps and Willy..a tip pick coming... decent cap space and leverage for trades and the Nets are in a better situation? Disgusting

Had cap space last yr, had kp last yr, and we are on pace to have the same finish as last yr despite a massive overhaul to the roster

there is literally no reason the knicks should be as bad as we are

That's fine and dandy...

But nobody is going to tell me the nets are in a better situation than us. Fuck espn

the nets fired the guy who made that asinine trade that set them back, got some solid role players in the mean time, and purged there roster of bloated contracts..

EnySpree wrote:This is just a way to bash the Knicks. Fuck Espn... you mean Sacramento isn't worse? The Bucks? Minnesota? Brooklyn? Philly? Denver? Pelicans? Detroit? Charlotte?

Those that agree with ESPN Shame on you! All this self hate is sickening.... don't flip it back on our management. Every team I mentioned are just as shit faced as we are if not worse. Fuck ESPN!!!

Take a different spin on it

How many player on other teams active rosters would be instant starters on the Knicks

How many players on the Knicks would be current starters on every other franchise in the league

How many players from other teams SECOND and THIRD UNITS would be instant starters on the Knicks

Any team with a legit established franchise player is INSTANTLY in a better position than the current Knicks.

Once you get into the bottom 5, who cares if you are just a little better than one of the bottom 5 floor scrapers?

The Knicks have a bad owner who seems like both an idiot and a jerk. Some teams at least their owner is only one of the two.

The Knicks have an aging GM with no previous experience who doesn't seem to put in the hard work and long hours to do a job he's clearly not prepared for and is forcing an offense no one wants onto the team

The Knicks have a "star player" who would rather sell cologne or shoes or handbags or whatever the hell else instead of winning basketball games. He refuses to play team ball, is a coach killer and simply says stupid thing after stupid thing in public.

If someone is sh*tting on the Knicks, it's because the Knicks are knee deep in sh*t already.