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GustavBahler wrote:Uptown wrote:crzymdups wrote:Knixkik wrote:Losing aside, Phil has not delivered on the culture-change that he promised at the beginning. His lack of communication with the media, fans, players, and agents is completely unacceptable. But from a basketball perspective, i'm not really sure what else he could have done. He wasn't going to convince top free agents to sign in NY no matter what. Guys like Durant and Aldridge only want to play for championship-ready teams. It's been proven. Not even Boston could land an elite free agent (Horford is great but i don't view him as elite.) And Phil couldn't commit to a full rebuild because he has had 1 1st round pick in 3 years. So what other options were there really? Had he come into a situation with all draft picks, he would have likely let Melo go and rebuild, based on what we have seen. No doubt he values draft picks above everything else here. And the ones he has had, he has made the most of. Now we are in a situation where we no longer owe picks and can actually do a true rebuild. And there's young talent in place. So he is owed the last 2 years of this contract to use his draft picks and build a good, young team, and we will see what it looks like at the end of this.This is a fair assessment. The real failures of the Phil era have been:
1) Obsessing over the Triangle when any efficient offense in the NBA can win. It's defense that is the necessity but he has almost completely ignored it. Noah lost two steps on D, but was given four years because he can pass like a Triangle center. The Knicks have the worst defense in the league since Phil took over.
2) Failure to build through Free Agency. He's had $30 million in cap room two years in a row. The only keeper he signed is Courtney Lee who is 31 and should be a team's fifth best starter. I like Courtney, but he's not really a building block, more a solid rotation guy. Rolo, Afflalo, DWill, Jennings all lasted less than a year here. We're stuck with Noah being useless for three more years.
3) Trades. He's gotten back less talent in every single trade. If you say he got more in the Rose trade, Rose is leaving this off-season while the Bulls will keep Rolo and Grant. Maybe we re-sign Holiday, who should be about the tenth man on a good team.
4) Coaching. He had too much faith in Fish at first, then fired him when he was starting to get it. Hornacek has been thrown under the bus and made to coach a system he doesn't understand. Rambis is an idiot who has been given far too much power. Courtney Lee called Rambis and Hornacek "dumb and dumber" in a post he quickly deleted.
5) as you said - Culture. We were told Phil would change the culture. It's business as usual at the Garden, right down to blaming the star player for a completely dysfunctional organization.
Abd yet people want to blame everything on Melo and sometimes Rose. I really can't wait til Melo is traded and Phil has no more scapegoats. Of course, he'll probably start blaming the coach again at that point.+ 1,0000
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Uptown wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Uptown wrote:crzymdups wrote:Knixkik wrote:Losing aside, Phil has not delivered on the culture-change that he promised at the beginning. His lack of communication with the media, fans, players, and agents is completely unacceptable. But from a basketball perspective, i'm not really sure what else he could have done. He wasn't going to convince top free agents to sign in NY no matter what. Guys like Durant and Aldridge only want to play for championship-ready teams. It's been proven. Not even Boston could land an elite free agent (Horford is great but i don't view him as elite.) And Phil couldn't commit to a full rebuild because he has had 1 1st round pick in 3 years. So what other options were there really? Had he come into a situation with all draft picks, he would have likely let Melo go and rebuild, based on what we have seen. No doubt he values draft picks above everything else here. And the ones he has had, he has made the most of. Now we are in a situation where we no longer owe picks and can actually do a true rebuild. And there's young talent in place. So he is owed the last 2 years of this contract to use his draft picks and build a good, young team, and we will see what it looks like at the end of this.This is a fair assessment. The real failures of the Phil era have been:
1) Obsessing over the Triangle when any efficient offense in the NBA can win. It's defense that is the necessity but he has almost completely ignored it. Noah lost two steps on D, but was given four years because he can pass like a Triangle center. The Knicks have the worst defense in the league since Phil took over.
2) Failure to build through Free Agency. He's had $30 million in cap room two years in a row. The only keeper he signed is Courtney Lee who is 31 and should be a team's fifth best starter. I like Courtney, but he's not really a building block, more a solid rotation guy. Rolo, Afflalo, DWill, Jennings all lasted less than a year here. We're stuck with Noah being useless for three more years.
3) Trades. He's gotten back less talent in every single trade. If you say he got more in the Rose trade, Rose is leaving this off-season while the Bulls will keep Rolo and Grant. Maybe we re-sign Holiday, who should be about the tenth man on a good team.
4) Coaching. He had too much faith in Fish at first, then fired him when he was starting to get it. Hornacek has been thrown under the bus and made to coach a system he doesn't understand. Rambis is an idiot who has been given far too much power. Courtney Lee called Rambis and Hornacek "dumb and dumber" in a post he quickly deleted.
5) as you said - Culture. We were told Phil would change the culture. It's business as usual at the Garden, right down to blaming the star player for a completely dysfunctional organization.
Abd yet people want to blame everything on Melo and sometimes Rose. I really can't wait til Melo is traded and Phil has no more scapegoats. Of course, he'll probably start blaming the coach again at that point.+ 1,0000
What the N'Dour hater said.....
Did you say N'Dour?!?!?!
Only partially captures your blind, unyielding, rage at N'Dour. Haven't you done enough?! 
GustavBahler wrote:Uptown wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Uptown wrote:crzymdups wrote:Knixkik wrote:Losing aside, Phil has not delivered on the culture-change that he promised at the beginning. His lack of communication with the media, fans, players, and agents is completely unacceptable. But from a basketball perspective, i'm not really sure what else he could have done. He wasn't going to convince top free agents to sign in NY no matter what. Guys like Durant and Aldridge only want to play for championship-ready teams. It's been proven. Not even Boston could land an elite free agent (Horford is great but i don't view him as elite.) And Phil couldn't commit to a full rebuild because he has had 1 1st round pick in 3 years. So what other options were there really? Had he come into a situation with all draft picks, he would have likely let Melo go and rebuild, based on what we have seen. No doubt he values draft picks above everything else here. And the ones he has had, he has made the most of. Now we are in a situation where we no longer owe picks and can actually do a true rebuild. And there's young talent in place. So he is owed the last 2 years of this contract to use his draft picks and build a good, young team, and we will see what it looks like at the end of this.This is a fair assessment. The real failures of the Phil era have been:
1) Obsessing over the Triangle when any efficient offense in the NBA can win. It's defense that is the necessity but he has almost completely ignored it. Noah lost two steps on D, but was given four years because he can pass like a Triangle center. The Knicks have the worst defense in the league since Phil took over.
2) Failure to build through Free Agency. He's had $30 million in cap room two years in a row. The only keeper he signed is Courtney Lee who is 31 and should be a team's fifth best starter. I like Courtney, but he's not really a building block, more a solid rotation guy. Rolo, Afflalo, DWill, Jennings all lasted less than a year here. We're stuck with Noah being useless for three more years.
3) Trades. He's gotten back less talent in every single trade. If you say he got more in the Rose trade, Rose is leaving this off-season while the Bulls will keep Rolo and Grant. Maybe we re-sign Holiday, who should be about the tenth man on a good team.
4) Coaching. He had too much faith in Fish at first, then fired him when he was starting to get it. Hornacek has been thrown under the bus and made to coach a system he doesn't understand. Rambis is an idiot who has been given far too much power. Courtney Lee called Rambis and Hornacek "dumb and dumber" in a post he quickly deleted.
5) as you said - Culture. We were told Phil would change the culture. It's business as usual at the Garden, right down to blaming the star player for a completely dysfunctional organization.
Abd yet people want to blame everything on Melo and sometimes Rose. I really can't wait til Melo is traded and Phil has no more scapegoats. Of course, he'll probably start blaming the coach again at that point.+ 1,0000
What the N'Dour hater said.....
Did you say N'Dour?!?!?!
Only partially captures your blind, unyielding, rage at N'Dour. Haven't you done enough?!
LOL