Knicks · I see melo staying for another yr, makes the most sense (page 1)

That's when he will be more valuable of an asset. he'll going into final yr of contract, it's less risky for a team to take on the 30 mill.

His current value is at a career low, there's really no contender that has the assets to send back with out taking a massive hit to their depth like we did, and I don't see him lifting his NTC just to be on another team for the sake of it.

Unfortunately for phil, the 22 or so mill in cap space doesn't really get you much

Perhaps they don't trade Melo but I think there will be a LOT of trade discussions going on from more teams than you might think. They're most likely hammering away at all kinds of scenarios to make the trade work including multi team trades. I'd say the odds of a trade are extremely high. Phil wants to be free of Melo and there will be teams that would want to add Melo. My guess is that LAC is working overtime trying to figure out a way to get Melo and resign CP3.

I disagree.... This summer is the best time to trade him. If they don't, then we're going to have a media fire storm from day one. The trade cloud well be over our head and every team knows it. We'll be forced to throw him away or to buy him out. That's not good.

Right now teams are going to see how much they need a guy like Melo. Paul George, Blake Griffin and Gordon Hayward will be first. Then Melo will get his look.

If Melo stays past this summer it will be a disaster. They might as well buy him out at that point.

Vmart wrote:If Melo stays past this summer it will be a disaster. They might as well buy him out at that point.

I dont think so, if Melo stays, he should play his ass off every game just to prove that Phil is not right, if he stays and we still loose games it will be disaster for Melo. I think he understand this very well know. I think Melo is very capable of playing team basketball, he just need stop thinking he is only savior on a team, thats it.

Gudris wrote:

Vmart wrote:If Melo stays past this summer it will be a disaster. They might as well buy him out at that point.

I dont think so, if Melo stays, he should play his ass off every game just to prove that Phil is not right, if he stays and we still loose games it will be disaster for Melo. I think he understand this very well know. I think Melo is very capable of playing team basketball, he just need stop thinking he is only savior on a team, thats it.

If he stays and forces the Knicks to win games it would be a disaster for the franchise. We need to rebuild, not be a treadmill team.

Liike if he stays I see a lot of DNP's in his future or 15 - 20 minute of game time.

I think if they are true to their word--then they would either release Melo or give him a bench role. To have Melo for 38 minutes again after all that from phil would just expose BS. No way can he stay and if somehow he does--it will be severely marginalized.

Melo isnt winning in NY its done.

Gudris wrote:

Vmart wrote:If Melo stays past this summer it will be a disaster. They might as well buy him out at that point.

I dont think so, if Melo stays, he should play his ass off every game just to prove that Phil is not right, if he stays and we still loose games it will be disaster for Melo. I think he understand this very well know. I think Melo is very capable of playing team basketball, he just need stop thinking he is only savior on a team, thats it.

He isn't capable. Its not his nature he is averse to change and fights and resists it. You want Melo to be more team oriented then you have to get him a (leader) player he can buy into. There aren't any available its going to be more of Melo being Melo. Riding the bench isn't going to be his thing his scoring record is all to important to him. He is still going to jack up 20-25 shots. those shots are meant for the younger guys.

Lets face it the real reason he needs to be moved is for KP. The only way to find out KP's real potential is without Melo.

nixluva wrote:Perhaps they don't trade Melo but I think there will be a LOT of trade discussions going on from more teams than you might think. They're most likely hammering away at all kinds of scenarios to make the trade work including multi team trades. I'd say the odds of a trade are extremely high. Phil wants to be free of Melo and there will be teams that would want to add Melo. My guess is that LAC is working overtime trying to figure out a way to get Melo and resign CP3.

Melo to the clippers doesn't make them better, every NBA analysis has already stated this, and JJ is a FA, blake is an injury waiting to happen and if he opts out he's not even a trade chip, the cavs are not giving up anybody or then end of the bench guys, the Celtics can fill their needs with this coming (likely 1 or 2 overall) in the draft. they are more less looking for a big man.

To add on, after listening to kobe and Jordan over the last few wks about their rocky relationship with phil, but in the end it was all mind games. phil is not releasing him, it would be the dumbest move in NBA history, nobody waives a player with 55 million on the books.

Phil is not building a 35 win team this summer, and phil already knows KP isn't close to being ready for a bigger role at the expense of winning, plus he is clearly not that durable.

Melo miss just 2 or 3 games due to injury this season , that's more than any of the top 20 players in the NBA

How can a playoff team... any of them especially the top 8.... add Carmelo Anthony to their roster without losing a starter and not get better? Please explain that to me....

knicks1248 wrote:That's when he will be more valuable of an asset. he'll going into final yr of contract, it's less risky for a team to take on the 30 mill.

His current value is at a career low, there's really no contender that has the assets to send back with out taking a massive hit to their depth like we did, and I don't see him lifting his NTC just to be on another team for the sake of it.

Unfortunately for phil, the 22 or so mill in cap space doesn't really get you much

When Knicks1248 says: "Makes the most sense", well that's not really much of a qualifier is it?

There are a lot of moving pieces that has to happen, most of which the draft order has to play out, opt outs and team options have to be rejected or accepted, then teams can sort out the possibilities.
What makes sense is just letting it play out but your personal conjecture as a troll offers little other than an outlet for you anger.
Basically now any deal done will be "PHil could have gotten a much better deal". Your a clever troll!

Back to content: I can see where Melo does stay. It does not make sense, but it could happen. His personal life matters, the team and draft matters, and perhaps he gets the fact he will be benched. If that is not acceptable to him then he has to widen his list of teams. If not, Phil should do anything stupid to the detriment to the team to accommodate him. For all we know Phil and his knick minions are all hard at work but its not for our consumption. Most just thing PHil is shrooming out somewhere and just chill.

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nixluva wrote:Perhaps they don't trade Melo but I think there will be a LOT of trade discussions going on from more teams than you might think. They're most likely hammering away at all kinds of scenarios to make the trade work including multi team trades. I'd say the odds of a trade are extremely high. Phil wants to be free of Melo and there will be teams that would want to add Melo. My guess is that LAC is working overtime trying to figure out a way to get Melo and resign CP3.

Melo to the clippers doesn't make them better, every NBA analysis has already stated this, and JJ is a FA, blake is an injury waiting to happen and if he opts out he's not even a trade chip, the cavs are not giving up anybody or then end of the bench guys, the Celtics can fill their needs with this coming (likely 1 or 2 overall) in the draft. they are more less looking for a big man.

To add on, after listening to kobe and Jordan over the last few wks about their rocky relationship with phil, but in the end it was all mind games. phil is not releasing him, it would be the dumbest move in NBA history, nobody waives a player with 55 million on the books.

Phil is not building a 35 win team this summer, and phil already knows KP isn't close to being ready for a bigger role at the expense of winning, plus he is clearly not that durable.

Melo miss just 2 or 3 games due to injury this season , that's more than any of the top 20 players in the NBA

Kobe and Phil get along great. Kobe was in town and said as much in an article today. I posted a passage from Phil about his take on his problems with Kobe.
Him and Michael not get along?

Not only to you profess to knowing "Every nba analysis", your now miss cleo and can predict the future? If your going on a limb, why not post a link to your information.
Or just say "its my opinion". At least you won't insult the many posters that don't make up shyt on the UK.

I think Melo is ready to move on. But his deal is almost untradeable. It is less of a risk for a team to commit 30 mil of its cap space to Melo for one year versus two. I also would not be surprised if Melo chose to stay if it helped to save his marriage.

CrushAlot wrote:I think Melo is ready to move on. But his deal is almost untradeable. It is less of a risk for a team to commit 30 mil of its cap space to Melo for one year versus two. I also would not be surprised if Melo chose to stay if it helped to save his marriage.

I read some of that TMZ stuff about him trying to reconcile and I wonder if its just all drama for their reality show? Can't trust any of this stuff.

Nalod wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:I think Melo is ready to move on. But his deal is almost untradeable. It is less of a risk for a team to commit 30 mil of its cap space to Melo for one year versus two. I also would not be surprised if Melo chose to stay if it helped to save his marriage.

I read some of that TMZ stuff about him trying to reconcile and I wonder if its just all drama for their reality show? Can't trust any of this stuff.

I don't read tmz. I saw it in a couple of sports articles that I read. I don't think it is staged drama. I do think that it could impact his decision on whether he accepts a trade.

LOOK the Knicks are going to only get younger. Fewer Vets and more kids! It's the only logical expectation. They won't have enough money nor the winning situation for top tier FA's. They've got picks and a roster that will have a lot of players in their 20's. Melo might not be traded but the direction is pretty much locked in at this point. My guess is that Melo will open up his acceptable trade destinations a little bit more. There are plenty of teams that he could go to that are much closer to contention than the Knicks will be next year with so many young players.

Thought this was relevant. Nichols makes a good point at the end - Detroit decided to blow it up and go younger in 2008. They haven't won a playoffs series since.

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crzymdups wrote:Thought this was relevant. Nichols makes a good point at the end - Detroit decided to blow it up and go younger in 2008. They haven't won a playoffs series since.

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What does that have to do with anything? There are plenty of teams that have had success. The Knicks have been trying to satisfy stars, media and fairweather fans for 15 years... what have thay done us? Rebuild through the draft for 1000 Alex

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knicks1248 wrote:That's when he will be more valuable of an asset. he'll going into final yr of contract, it's less risky for a team to take on the 30 mill.

His current value is at a career low, there's really no contender that has the assets to send back with out taking a massive hit to their depth like we did, and I don't see him lifting his NTC just to be on another team for the sake of it.

Unfortunately for phil, the 22 or so mill in cap space doesn't really get you much

When Knicks1248 says: "Makes the most sense", well that's not really much of a qualifier is it?

There are a lot of moving pieces that has to happen, most of which the draft order has to play out, opt outs and team options have to be rejected or accepted, then teams can sort out the possibilities.
What makes sense is just letting it play out but your personal conjecture as a troll offers little other than an outlet for you anger.
Basically now any deal done will be "PHil could have gotten a much better deal". Your a clever troll!

Back to content: I can see where Melo does stay. It does not make sense, but it could happen. His personal life matters, the team and draft matters, and perhaps he gets the fact he will be benched. If that is not acceptable to him then he has to widen his list of teams. If not, Phil should do anything stupid to the detriment to the team to accommodate him. For all we know Phil and his knick minions are all hard at work but its not for our consumption. Most just thing PHil is shrooming out somewhere and just chill.

Dude kill it with the trolling, I just thought about some possibilities, and stated in my post, if you disagree so be it, your views are different then mine, what else is old. The dudes contract is ridiculous, and he has a NTC, when you take both into consideration, it doesn't take a basketball guru to see it's not going to be remotely easy to trade him.

I never bashed phil, just like phil said he never criticize Melo, he just endorsed negative articles about melo. IDK what the fck phil is doing because he flips the script every chance he gets. EVERYBODY here is making assumptions, or hoping such and such will happen.

After the ALL star break the Rose Haters where speaking about him being gone next season like it was a no brainer, then phil states there's mutual feelings, and now the haters switched up and focus all the trade talk on melo.

I knew the knicks still wanted rose, or else they would have traded him for Rubio straight up or whatever pieces needed, or just waived him out right. Once they waived BJ and not Rose, I new they were considering bring him back because there are zero options in FA, just like last season and really no reason to keep him around

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crzymdups wrote:Thought this was relevant. Nichols makes a good point at the end - Detroit decided to blow it up and go younger in 2008. They haven't won a playoffs series since.

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What does that have to do with anything? There are plenty of teams that have had success. The Knicks have been trying to satisfy stars, media and fairweather fans for 15 years... what have thay done us? Rebuild through the draft for 1000 Alex

Just pointing out its not easy.

But I think it's fairly relevant to mention that the Clippers don't have a straight forward decision to make here either, as they are the most often cited Melo destination.

crzymdups wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Thought this was relevant. Nichols makes a good point at the end - Detroit decided to blow it up and go younger in 2008. They haven't won a playoffs series since.

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What does that have to do with anything? There are plenty of teams that have had success. The Knicks have been trying to satisfy stars, media and fairweather fans for 15 years... what have thay done us? Rebuild through the draft for 1000 Alex

Just pointing out its not easy.

But I think it's fairly relevant to mention that the Clippers don't have a straight forward decision to make here either, as they are the most often cited Melo destination.

The Clippers aren't in the position to blow the team up for youth. They've traded way to many picks for aging roleplayers.