newyorknewyork wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:smackeddog wrote:fishmike wrote:team with 2 slow bigmen in the line up: 4 wins
team with unguardable what it was: 2 winsNo Parker, No Lenard
Ha, thats why I always laugh when people say you can only win one way- it's not that simple. Execution, heart, toughness, there are lots of variables. One things for sure Popovic got robbed for coach of the year.
The strange thing is that people in this and the other recent threads are obsessed with offense and seem to have forgotten there's a defensive end to the game. A team can get very far with an ordinary offense and the best defense in the league.
It has to burn MDA that he got lit up by a post player backing players down hitting turn around mid range 2s. But to be real that wouldn't be the full story. Spurs were willing and able to attack at every angle. Fast breaks, Layups, Mid range, Post Play, 3 pointers, FTs.
You know what has helped make the Spurs defense tough all these yrs. Having 2 7 fters in the paint.
Burn? No, it validates my prediction. I said even after game 1 I thought the Spurs would win. Their defense is off the charts. They've increased their 3s in the post-season to 25 a game by the way.
HofstraBBall wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:nixluva wrote:fishmike wrote:team with 2 slow bigmen in the line up: 4 wins
team with unguardable what it was: 2 winsNo Parker, No Lenard
Thing is it's easier to neutralize one player like Harden. Even minus Parker n Kawhi the Spurs still had Aldridge, Pau, Green and Manu in the mix with some tough role players. Spurs have more experience and time together. Spurs were the better team coming into the series and able to get off the ropes.
You forgot better coaching. Lmao
I think it's harder to get that Rockets roster to 55 wins and the 2nd round than the Spurs roster to 61 and the 3rd round. If the Spurs actually make it past the Warriors, we'll have a different discussion.
The discussion was MDA being a great coach. There is no further discussion needed to prove that Pop is a great coach. Regardless of regular season, a GREAT coach finds a way to win that series. Specially against a team having it's 3 main players at less than 100%.
You do realize that NO ONE actually said MDA was a great coach. You made that up!!! People were defending MDA as a good coach, which he is. Now let's also remember that Pop after losing Parker still had Mills and minus Kawhi still had Aldridge, Pau, Green and Manu. There's a reason the spurs came in as a better team. THEY ARE a better team than the Rockets. After Harden who do you really have on the Rockets that is anything special? MDA maximized what he had and that is the mark of a good coach. He didn't have an Aldridge to fall back on. Not to mention this is his 1st season with the Rockets!!! You really need to stop.
It's popular on the internet to bash MDA but these people aren't really taking a deeper look at the situation. The Rockets overachieved and that's a fact. They were a 3 seed but not on the level of Spurs or Warriors. It ended poorly but they had a good year.
HofstraBBall wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:nixluva wrote:fishmike wrote:team with 2 slow bigmen in the line up: 4 wins
team with unguardable what it was: 2 winsNo Parker, No Lenard
Thing is it's easier to neutralize one player like Harden. Even minus Parker n Kawhi the Spurs still had Aldridge, Pau, Green and Manu in the mix with some tough role players. Spurs have more experience and time together. Spurs were the better team coming into the series and able to get off the ropes.
You forgot better coaching. Lmao
I think it's harder to get that Rockets roster to 55 wins and the 2nd round than the Spurs roster to 61 and the 3rd round. If the Spurs actually make it past the Warriors, we'll have a different discussion.
The discussion was MDA being a great coach. There is no further discussion needed to prove that Pop is a great coach. Regardless of regular season, a GREAT coach finds a way to win that series. Specially against a team having it's 3 main players at less than 100%.
Who's at 100% this time of year? Harden had some good games but overall wasn't the same since the ankle injury.
MVP are not superhuman. Even Jordan had some stinker games in the playoffs. What made him epic was he'd have a bad game, then rise up in crunch time and make a play or two that made a difference.
History also enhances the past. YOUTUBE Jordan is immortally GOAT.
Even haters of Leborn should take a moment to appreciate what he has been doing the last 8 years warts and all. Yeah he flops. Yeah he over dramatizes when he gets hit. Otherwise, his performaces are quite impressive. His post career legend will grow as it does all players of that level.
Bonn1997 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:smackeddog wrote:fishmike wrote:team with 2 slow bigmen in the line up: 4 wins
team with unguardable what it was: 2 winsNo Parker, No Lenard
Ha, thats why I always laugh when people say you can only win one way- it's not that simple. Execution, heart, toughness, there are lots of variables. One things for sure Popovic got robbed for coach of the year.
The strange thing is that people in this and the other recent threads are obsessed with offense and seem to have forgotten there's a defensive end to the game. A team can get very far with an ordinary offense and the best defense in the league.
It has to burn MDA that he got lit up by a post player backing players down hitting turn around mid range 2s. But to be real that wouldn't be the full story. Spurs were willing and able to attack at every angle. Fast breaks, Layups, Mid range, Post Play, 3 pointers, FTs.
You know what has helped make the Spurs defense tough all these yrs. Having 2 7 fters in the paint.
Burn? No, it validates my prediction. I said even after game 1 I thought the Spurs would win. Their defense is off the charts. They've increased their 3s in the post-season to 25 a game by the way.
I was speaking about MDA not you in terms of who it may burn inside. You habe tried to down play their offense thoguhtout this thread even though they have been one of the more efficient offenses in the league over the years. There is nothing wrong with 3s. So them taking more 3s means nothing to me. They are a balanced team that can attack in every way possible. That's the point.
newyorknewyork wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:smackeddog wrote:fishmike wrote:team with 2 slow bigmen in the line up: 4 wins
team with unguardable what it was: 2 winsNo Parker, No Lenard
Ha, thats why I always laugh when people say you can only win one way- it's not that simple. Execution, heart, toughness, there are lots of variables. One things for sure Popovic got robbed for coach of the year.
The strange thing is that people in this and the other recent threads are obsessed with offense and seem to have forgotten there's a defensive end to the game. A team can get very far with an ordinary offense and the best defense in the league.
It has to burn MDA that he got lit up by a post player backing players down hitting turn around mid range 2s. But to be real that wouldn't be the full story. Spurs were willing and able to attack at every angle. Fast breaks, Layups, Mid range, Post Play, 3 pointers, FTs.
You know what has helped make the Spurs defense tough all these yrs. Having 2 7 fters in the paint.
Burn? No, it validates my prediction. I said even after game 1 I thought the Spurs would win. Their defense is off the charts. They've increased their 3s in the post-season to 25 a game by the way.
I was speaking about MDA not you in terms of who it may burn inside. You habe tried to down play their offense thoguhtout this thread even though they have been one of the more efficient offenses in the league over the years. There is nothing wrong with 3s. So them taking more 3s means nothing to me. They are a balanced team that can attack in every way possible. That's the point.
The Spurs offense is slightly above average - 14th in PPG and 9th in per 100 scoring. Their defense is #1 in the league and clearly is what makes them special.
Vmart wrote:Uptown wrote:Nalod wrote:PHil is building the team to play a system.
Dolan insisting on Melo as a star derailed the plan here.
In LA, MDA had a Dwight still not right after back surgery, Nash fell apart as was KOBE.
With Rockets Harden was the centerpiece and the other pieces were added. They have nice team for what they want to do.
WE throw money at these guys like him and Larry and tell them we'll rebuild to their specifications but we don't follow thru.IM glad MDA is getting some sort of redemption.
BullS***!!! Phil said he had complete carte blanche plenty of times. phil derailed himself by giving Melo the NTC!
I agree with this. It was Phils blunder, phil's over confidence got the best of him.
I'll admit he was in a terrible situation, though, with Melo entering free agency. He and Dolan had been talking for a long time from what I remember. He should have insisted that if Dolan was going to hire him, it had to be at least a few weeks before the trade deadline. None of this justifies the NTC and trade-kicker though. Just letting Melo walk would have been less harmful.
Bonn1997 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:smackeddog wrote:fishmike wrote:team with 2 slow bigmen in the line up: 4 wins
team with unguardable what it was: 2 winsNo Parker, No Lenard
Ha, thats why I always laugh when people say you can only win one way- it's not that simple. Execution, heart, toughness, there are lots of variables. One things for sure Popovic got robbed for coach of the year.
The strange thing is that people in this and the other recent threads are obsessed with offense and seem to have forgotten there's a defensive end to the game. A team can get very far with an ordinary offense and the best defense in the league.
It has to burn MDA that he got lit up by a post player backing players down hitting turn around mid range 2s. But to be real that wouldn't be the full story. Spurs were willing and able to attack at every angle. Fast breaks, Layups, Mid range, Post Play, 3 pointers, FTs.
You know what has helped make the Spurs defense tough all these yrs. Having 2 7 fters in the paint.
Burn? No, it validates my prediction. I said even after game 1 I thought the Spurs would win. Their defense is off the charts. They've increased their 3s in the post-season to 25 a game by the way.
I was speaking about MDA not you in terms of who it may burn inside. You habe tried to down play their offense thoguhtout this thread even though they have been one of the more efficient offenses in the league over the years. There is nothing wrong with 3s. So them taking more 3s means nothing to me. They are a balanced team that can attack in every way possible. That's the point.
The Spurs offense is slightly above average - 14th in PPG and 9th in per 100 scoring. Their defense is #1 in the league and clearly is what makes them special.
They are top 10 fg, 3pt, ft, %s and Tos. This while having core players well past their prime or those stats you mentioned would be higher as well. But they have employed the 2 7fters dating back to Splutter within the modern era. And have maintained extremely efficient offenses to go with their defense.
newyorknewyork wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:smackeddog wrote:fishmike wrote:team with 2 slow bigmen in the line up: 4 wins
team with unguardable what it was: 2 winsNo Parker, No Lenard
Ha, thats why I always laugh when people say you can only win one way- it's not that simple. Execution, heart, toughness, there are lots of variables. One things for sure Popovic got robbed for coach of the year.
The strange thing is that people in this and the other recent threads are obsessed with offense and seem to have forgotten there's a defensive end to the game. A team can get very far with an ordinary offense and the best defense in the league.
It has to burn MDA that he got lit up by a post player backing players down hitting turn around mid range 2s. But to be real that wouldn't be the full story. Spurs were willing and able to attack at every angle. Fast breaks, Layups, Mid range, Post Play, 3 pointers, FTs.
You know what has helped make the Spurs defense tough all these yrs. Having 2 7 fters in the paint.
Burn? No, it validates my prediction. I said even after game 1 I thought the Spurs would win. Their defense is off the charts. They've increased their 3s in the post-season to 25 a game by the way.
I was speaking about MDA not you in terms of who it may burn inside. You habe tried to down play their offense thoguhtout this thread even though they have been one of the more efficient offenses in the league over the years. There is nothing wrong with 3s. So them taking more 3s means nothing to me. They are a balanced team that can attack in every way possible. That's the point.
The Spurs offense is slightly above average - 14th in PPG and 9th in per 100 scoring. Their defense is #1 in the league and clearly is what makes them special.
They are top 10 fg, 3pt, ft, %s and Tos. This while having core players well past their prime or those stats you mentioned would be higher as well. But they have employed the 2 7fters dating back to Splutter within the modern era. And have maintained extremely efficient offenses to go with their defense.
Hmmmm. I actually had the opposite interpretation: I think they have too much talent to only be 14th in scoring, 9th in per 100. They have an MVP candidate, borderline all-star in Aldridge, and several crafty future HOFers who are still good. There's a good chance that 4 or 5 of their core players will be in the HOF. I initially wrote in my previous message that their offense was underachieving slightly but then thought that would take the conversation in a different direction. Regardless, it's clear that their defense is what carries them. If their defense was on the same level as their offense, they'd probably barely make the playoffs.
Bonn1997 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:smackeddog wrote:fishmike wrote:team with 2 slow bigmen in the line up: 4 wins
team with unguardable what it was: 2 winsNo Parker, No Lenard
Ha, thats why I always laugh when people say you can only win one way- it's not that simple. Execution, heart, toughness, there are lots of variables. One things for sure Popovic got robbed for coach of the year.
The strange thing is that people in this and the other recent threads are obsessed with offense and seem to have forgotten there's a defensive end to the game. A team can get very far with an ordinary offense and the best defense in the league.
It has to burn MDA that he got lit up by a post player backing players down hitting turn around mid range 2s. But to be real that wouldn't be the full story. Spurs were willing and able to attack at every angle. Fast breaks, Layups, Mid range, Post Play, 3 pointers, FTs.
You know what has helped make the Spurs defense tough all these yrs. Having 2 7 fters in the paint.
Burn? No, it validates my prediction. I said even after game 1 I thought the Spurs would win. Their defense is off the charts. They've increased their 3s in the post-season to 25 a game by the way.
I was speaking about MDA not you in terms of who it may burn inside. You habe tried to down play their offense thoguhtout this thread even though they have been one of the more efficient offenses in the league over the years. There is nothing wrong with 3s. So them taking more 3s means nothing to me. They are a balanced team that can attack in every way possible. That's the point.
The Spurs offense is slightly above average - 14th in PPG and 9th in per 100 scoring. Their defense is #1 in the league and clearly is what makes them special.
They are top 10 fg, 3pt, ft, %s and Tos. This while having core players well past their prime or those stats you mentioned would be higher as well. But they have employed the 2 7fters dating back to Splutter within the modern era. And have maintained extremely efficient offenses to go with their defense.
Hmmmm. I actually had the opposite interpretation: I think they have too much talent to only be 14th in scoring, 9th in per 100. They have an MVP candidate, borderline all-star in Aldridge, and several crafty future HOFers who are still good. There's a good chance that 4 or 5 of their core players will be in the HOF. I initially wrote in my previous message that their offense was underachieving slightly but then thought that would take the conversation in a different direction. Regardless, it's clear that their defense is what carries them. If their defense was on the same level as their offense, they'd probably barely make the playoffs.
They slow down the offense in order to enhance their defense. Plus the older guys and bigd arent going to be able to keep up with a higher pace without breaking down physically and sacrificing their defense.
Bonn1997 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:smackeddog wrote:fishmike wrote:team with 2 slow bigmen in the line up: 4 wins
team with unguardable what it was: 2 winsNo Parker, No Lenard
Ha, thats why I always laugh when people say you can only win one way- it's not that simple. Execution, heart, toughness, there are lots of variables. One things for sure Popovic got robbed for coach of the year.
The strange thing is that people in this and the other recent threads are obsessed with offense and seem to have forgotten there's a defensive end to the game. A team can get very far with an ordinary offense and the best defense in the league.
It has to burn MDA that he got lit up by a post player backing players down hitting turn around mid range 2s. But to be real that wouldn't be the full story. Spurs were willing and able to attack at every angle. Fast breaks, Layups, Mid range, Post Play, 3 pointers, FTs.
You know what has helped make the Spurs defense tough all these yrs. Having 2 7 fters in the paint.
Burn? No, it validates my prediction. I said even after game 1 I thought the Spurs would win. Their defense is off the charts. They've increased their 3s in the post-season to 25 a game by the way.
lol versus what? 24?
Their total 3pt attempt rate has increased like 2% in playoffs, so maybe 1 shot a game difference?
Bonn1997 wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:nixluva wrote:fishmike wrote:team with 2 slow bigmen in the line up: 4 wins
team with unguardable what it was: 2 winsNo Parker, No Lenard
Thing is it's easier to neutralize one player like Harden. Even minus Parker n Kawhi the Spurs still had Aldridge, Pau, Green and Manu in the mix with some tough role players. Spurs have more experience and time together. Spurs were the better team coming into the series and able to get off the ropes.
You forgot better coaching. Lmao
I think it's harder to get that Rockets roster to 55 wins and the 2nd round than the Spurs roster to 61 and the 3rd round. If the Spurs actually make it past the Warriors, we'll have a different discussion.
The discussion was MDA being a great coach. There is no further discussion needed to prove that Pop is a great coach. Regardless of regular season, a GREAT coach finds a way to win that series. Specially against a team having it's 3 main players at less than 100%.
Who's at 100% this time of year? Harden had some good games but overall wasn't the same since the ankle injury.
Harden Tweek = Your top three players out/hurt? Sorry. Don't agree
nixluva wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:nixluva wrote:fishmike wrote:team with 2 slow bigmen in the line up: 4 wins
team with unguardable what it was: 2 winsNo Parker, No Lenard
Thing is it's easier to neutralize one player like Harden. Even minus Parker n Kawhi the Spurs still had Aldridge, Pau, Green and Manu in the mix with some tough role players. Spurs have more experience and time together. Spurs were the better team coming into the series and able to get off the ropes.
You forgot better coaching. Lmao
I think it's harder to get that Rockets roster to 55 wins and the 2nd round than the Spurs roster to 61 and the 3rd round. If the Spurs actually make it past the Warriors, we'll have a different discussion.
The discussion was MDA being a great coach. There is no further discussion needed to prove that Pop is a great coach. Regardless of regular season, a GREAT coach finds a way to win that series. Specially against a team having it's 3 main players at less than 100%.
You do realize that NO ONE actually said MDA was a great coach. You made that up!!! People were defending MDA as a good coach, which he is. Now let's also remember that Pop after losing Parker still had Mills and minus Kawhi still had Aldridge, Pau, Green and Manu. There's a reason the spurs came in as a better team. THEY ARE a better team than the Rockets. After Harden who do you really have on the Rockets that is anything special? MDA maximized what he had and that is the mark of a good coach. He didn't have an Aldridge to fall back on. Not to mention this is his 1st season with the Rockets!!! You really need to stop. It's popular on the internet to bash MDA but these people aren't really taking a deeper look at the situation. The Rockets overachieved and that's a fact. They were a 3 seed but not on the level of Spurs or Warriors. It ended poorly but they had a good year.
So all those Dantoni posts we're just to say he is a "GOOD" coach? Lmao. Every coach in the NBA is a good coach. Okay fine, He is a "GOOD" offensive coach. Nix, but you sometimes make no sense. You boasted about how he coached them to such a good record but now down play the record and their seed? So Patty Mills is better than Gordon? Ariza, Beverley, Lou, Anderson and Capela are all chumps? Harden was this years MVP but notice how "good" coaching locked him down? BTW. The Knicks beat them in Feb. But then again we had Melo. Lol 
martin wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:smackeddog wrote:fishmike wrote:team with 2 slow bigmen in the line up: 4 wins
team with unguardable what it was: 2 winsNo Parker, No Lenard
Ha, thats why I always laugh when people say you can only win one way- it's not that simple. Execution, heart, toughness, there are lots of variables. One things for sure Popovic got robbed for coach of the year.
The strange thing is that people in this and the other recent threads are obsessed with offense and seem to have forgotten there's a defensive end to the game. A team can get very far with an ordinary offense and the best defense in the league.
It has to burn MDA that he got lit up by a post player backing players down hitting turn around mid range 2s. But to be real that wouldn't be the full story. Spurs were willing and able to attack at every angle. Fast breaks, Layups, Mid range, Post Play, 3 pointers, FTs.
You know what has helped make the Spurs defense tough all these yrs. Having 2 7 fters in the paint.
Burn? No, it validates my prediction. I said even after game 1 I thought the Spurs would win. Their defense is off the charts. They've increased their 3s in the post-season to 25 a game by the way.
lol versus what? 24?
Their total 3pt attempt rate has increased like 2% in playoffs, so maybe 1 shot a game difference?
I was being facetious. It was about a 10% increase in the Rockets series though.
Phil wants to be the Spurs with more Tri
Problem is he doesn't have the talent like San Antonio
Spurs have personalities like LMA, Leonard, Parker, Gasol, Ginobli
Guys that don't want to isolate or do their thing but rather play within the system
We had Rose and Melo .... guys who like to do their own thing
And KP with his bro around him .. he may becoming self absorbed with the name on the back as well.
I do like how Willy, Lance, Lee, Baker, OQuinn all play. It's definitely a brand similar to the Spurs. But they are all role players. Maybe Willy more. We need our stars like KP to buy in and play that way and whomever we draft with number 7 pick as well as whomever we replace Melo/Rose will.
HofstraBBall wrote:nixluva wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:nixluva wrote:fishmike wrote:team with 2 slow bigmen in the line up: 4 wins
team with unguardable what it was: 2 winsNo Parker, No Lenard
Thing is it's easier to neutralize one player like Harden. Even minus Parker n Kawhi the Spurs still had Aldridge, Pau, Green and Manu in the mix with some tough role players. Spurs have more experience and time together. Spurs were the better team coming into the series and able to get off the ropes.
You forgot better coaching. Lmao
I think it's harder to get that Rockets roster to 55 wins and the 2nd round than the Spurs roster to 61 and the 3rd round. If the Spurs actually make it past the Warriors, we'll have a different discussion.
The discussion was MDA being a great coach. There is no further discussion needed to prove that Pop is a great coach. Regardless of regular season, a GREAT coach finds a way to win that series. Specially against a team having it's 3 main players at less than 100%.
You do realize that NO ONE actually said MDA was a great coach. You made that up!!! People were defending MDA as a good coach, which he is. Now let's also remember that Pop after losing Parker still had Mills and minus Kawhi still had Aldridge, Pau, Green and Manu. There's a reason the spurs came in as a better team. THEY ARE a better team than the Rockets. After Harden who do you really have on the Rockets that is anything special? MDA maximized what he had and that is the mark of a good coach. He didn't have an Aldridge to fall back on. Not to mention this is his 1st season with the Rockets!!! You really need to stop. It's popular on the internet to bash MDA but these people aren't really taking a deeper look at the situation. The Rockets overachieved and that's a fact. They were a 3 seed but not on the level of Spurs or Warriors. It ended poorly but they had a good year.
So all those Dantoni posts we're just to say he is a "GOOD" coach? Lmao. Every coach in the NBA is a good coach. Okay fine, He is a "GOOD" offensive coach. Nix, but you sometimes make no sense. You boasted about how he coached them to such a good record but now down play the record and their seed? So Patty Mills is better than Gordon? Ariza, Beverley, Lou, Anderson and Capela are all chumps? Harden was this years MVP but notice how "good" coaching locked him down? BTW. The Knicks beat them in Feb. But then again we had Melo. Lol
You're the one with the issues about MDA! Also if EVERY Coach in the NBA was GOOD then why has MDA gotten another job despite NY and LA? You're basically saying the Rockets don't know Shyte but hired MDA over other better options!!!
The fact is MDA led them to a much better record than last year. Still the Rockets roster is not better than the Spurs. If the Rockets lose Harden like Kawhi they don't stand a chance of doing what Aldridge, Pau, Manu etc did.
