Don't care what anyone thinks. If David Lee is good enough to contribute for a team that is in the Western Conference Finals, he is good enough to play for a lottery team.
He was drafted by us (thank youn Isiah) and was a favored son of the city.
I miss David Lee.
misterearl wrote:Don't care what anyone thinks. If David Lee is good enough to contribute for a team that is in the Western Conference Finals, he is good enough to play for a lottery team. He was drafted by us (thank youn Isiah) and was a favored son of the city.
I miss David Lee.
David Lee was a great guy, unselfish player and one of the best rebounders in recent Knicks history. But he didn't play a lick off defense his entire career before he embed up on the Spurs. Credit Pop's coaching and Spurs veteran leadership to demand that from him.
meloshouldgo wrote:misterearl wrote:Don't care what anyone thinks. If David Lee is good enough to contribute for a team that is in the Western Conference Finals, he is good enough to play for a lottery team. He was drafted by us (thank youn Isiah) and was a favored son of the city.
I miss David Lee.
David Lee was a great guy, unselfish player and one of the best rebounders in recent Knicks history. But he didn't play a lick off defense his entire career before he embed up on the Spurs. Credit Pop's coaching and Spurs veteran leadership to demand that from him.
David Lee rookie season performance shouted career Knick player .. Walsh sold us out giving away Knicks all-around double-double PF David Lee for GS Warriors garbage contracts.
What i liked most bout Lee were his great passing n high IQ of teammates strong/weak areas ..
Mark Jackson built a winning playoff chemistry using David Lee in GS
Kemet wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:misterearl wrote:Don't care what anyone thinks. If David Lee is good enough to contribute for a team that is in the Western Conference Finals, he is good enough to play for a lottery team. He was drafted by us (thank youn Isiah) and was a favored son of the city.
I miss David Lee.
David Lee was a great guy, unselfish player and one of the best rebounders in recent Knicks history. But he didn't play a lick off defense his entire career before he embed up on the Spurs. Credit Pop's coaching and Spurs veteran leadership to demand that from him.
David Lee rookie season performance shouted career Knick player .. Walsh sold us out giving away Knicks all-around double-double PF David Lee for GS Warriors garbage contracts.
What i liked most bout Lee were his great passing n high IQ of teammates strong/weak areas
David Lee was a free agent and we wanted Amare. The trade got David Lee paid as well. Walsh took care of him.
I was a big david Lee fan and the kid was great. Walsh moved him to clear cap space and there was a hope of Lebron at that time.
Timeline will tell you the story.
Walsh signing $100 million dollar deals that sucked was never a part of walsh's repertoire in Indy. You think Walsh had to go to Dolan and some how sell him on the idea? Or Dolan instructed his employee?
You tell me?
If GS had kept Lee last year they would have won easily vs Cavs.
I was thinking about this last week. Lee should have been a career Knick. We haven't had one since Ward.
Nalod wrote:Kemet wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:misterearl wrote:Don't care what anyone thinks. If David Lee is good enough to contribute for a team that is in the Western Conference Finals, he is good enough to play for a lottery team. He was drafted by us (thank youn Isiah) and was a favored son of the city.
I miss David Lee.
David Lee was a great guy, unselfish player and one of the best rebounders in recent Knicks history. But he didn't play a lick off defense his entire career before he embed up on the Spurs. Credit Pop's coaching and Spurs veteran leadership to demand that from him.
David Lee rookie season performance shouted career Knick player .. Walsh sold us out giving away Knicks all-around double-double PF David Lee for GS Warriors garbage contracts.
What i liked most bout Lee were his great passing n high IQ of teammates strong/weak areas
David Lee was a free agent and we wanted Amare. The trade got David Lee paid as well. Walsh took care of him.
I was a big david Lee fan and the kid was great. Walsh moved him to clear cap space and there was a hope of Lebron at that time.
Timeline will tell you the story.
Walsh signing $100 million dollar deals that sucked was never a part of walsh's repertoire in Indy. You think Walsh had to go to Dolan and some how sell him on the idea? Or Dolan instructed his employee?
You tell me?
Walsh dig his own hole in getting fired .. Dolan cut Walsh out the picture the week after the sign n trade of David Lee .. recall Dolan tried to rehire Isiah Thomas!
Dolan tried to hire Isiah the week after the Lee trade to GS.
Stern personally stopped the rehire of Isiah Thomas lol
Walsh big mouth in 2008 revealed the Knicks 2010 Plan out open to public and media, which for 2 seasons of tanking Dolan had to spend twice the millions on buying shorter contract players to trade off a few long contract players while having 23 win seasons
Walsh tenure was a sham. First he hired the wrong coach for he tear down...made the wrong draft pick in Hill and traded a first rounder for HOau to take Jeffries and then Lebron F**ked us and went to Miami...Walsh was a placeholder.
We never had a winning season with him. I love and loved the guy to death and have a lot of appreciation for his game. Aside from his defense, he developed a lot. It was time for him to move on though and find greener pastures.
Maybe if he got drafted by another team, he would have had a lot more of a fruitful career.... and he's had a very fruitful career as is. He should have been a better defender.
It was awful that he was our center and given his height and size he was a defensive liablity that if we wanted to not get in foul trouble, we had to allow him to not play great defense.
He was a 4. He and Amare really could not play side by side.
As for Walsh, I always give him a pass. The notion that he somehow gave away secret plans and others jumped on it is comical. He tried to move up in the draft to get curry but if so, then others knew our desire.
This is a draft where Curry got passed over by 6 teams!!! Twice by Wolves!!!
He was forced upon dolan. It wasn't that he hired MDA as a mistake, but they never built the team for him.
newyorknewyork wrote:I was thinking about this last week. Lee should have been a career Knick. We haven't had one since Ward.
It's a shame. He was supposed to be a life-long Knick. He's been an all-star on both coasts and is an NBA champ. He's put together a nice career.
Funny, Melo gets destroyed here nearly every millisecond for not playing defense, but the faithful throngs will pine and pull pud over an empty double double machine (when he was here) who they admit (like in Knickland defense is some sort of afterthought) couldn't guard them. Interesting.
Yeah, David Lee, the lifelong Knick making sure his number one priority is making sure he's absolutely never in the lane for a posterization camera angle.
If only we had kept Nazr Mohammed. Heard he got a ring too.
jrodmc wrote:Funny, Melo gets destroyed here nearly every millisecond for not playing defense, but the faithful throngs will pine and pull pud over an empty double double machine (when he was here) who they admit (like in Knickland defense is some sort of afterthought) couldn't guard them. Interesting.Yeah, David Lee, the lifelong Knick making sure his number one priority is making sure he's absolutely never in the lane for a posterization camera angle.
If only we had kept Nazr Mohammed. Heard he got a ring too.
Pretty much sums it up. D'Antoni, of all people would bench Lee in the 4th because of his lack of defense, D'Antoni! Never felt Lee's lack of defense was anything but calculated. Got him paid, cant blame him for that. But by the time he left NY, I didnt think much of him as a player. Really not that sentimental about the David Lee years, or the Nate Robinson years. Wasted talent.
jrodmc wrote:Funny, Melo gets destroyed here nearly every millisecond for not playing defense, but the faithful throngs will pine and pull pud over an empty double double machine (when he was here) who they admit (like in Knickland defense is some sort of afterthought) couldn't guard them. Interesting.Yeah, David Lee, the lifelong Knick making sure his number one priority is making sure he's absolutely never in the lane for a posterization camera angle.
If only we had kept Nazr Mohammed. Heard he got a ring too.
Sometimes what you get paid does matter.
Kemet wrote:Walsh dig his own hole in getting fired ..
To be fair to Walsh, several NBA teams had marching orders from their owners to clear massive cap space to try to sign LeBron James.
Charles Barkley actually came out and criticized LBJ, saying if you knew you wanted to go to Miami, just say so, do it fast, and not let all these other teams gut themselves to think they had a chance.
LBJ is one of the biggest idiots in sports history, and if not for Nike deciding what gets said about him, it would be more openly discussed in the sports media. The league actually went to war and changed the CBA over LBJ and his "decision" and the fallout.
King James, being the attention whore that he is, wore a NYY hat in some interview or at some game, knowing it would fuel speculation that he would go to the Knicks.
The Knicks thought they had a chance but did not. Ever see a hot girl string a long a bunch of weak willed and loser dudes who spend money and time and attention without understanding she is just playing a game with them? They are useful for free stuff and compliments and someone to cry on and drive her to the airport, but they are never getting in her pants.
That was the Knicks. Some rimmed glasses wearing Comic Con dude taking the time to stop playing World Of Warcraft in his grandparents basement to make a mixtape for some chick who only sees him as good enough to wash her car while Chad Thundercock is railing her from behind.
Not sure I can blame Walsh here, he had marching orders, he did what he was told.
Lee
Good numbers on a losing team, just like KP. if the knicks don't make the playoffs during KP's rookie contract, he will do just like lee..THANK YOU FOR DEVELOPING ME, but i gotta go, and why would you want to keep him, lee had 5 yrs with no playoffs.
TripleThreat wrote:Kemet wrote:Walsh dig his own hole in getting fired ..
To be fair to Walsh, several NBA teams had marching orders from their owners to clear massive cap space to try to sign LeBron James.
Charles Barkley actually came out and criticized LBJ, saying if you knew you wanted to go to Miami, just say so, do it fast, and not let all these other teams gut themselves to think they had a chance.
LBJ is one of the biggest idiots in sports history, and if not for Nike deciding what gets said about him, it would be more openly discussed in the sports media. The league actually went to war and changed the CBA over LBJ and his "decision" and the fallout.
King James, being the attention whore that he is, wore a NYY hat in some interview or at some game, knowing it would fuel speculation that he would go to the Knicks.
The Knicks thought they had a chance but did not. Ever see a hot girl string a long a bunch of weak willed and loser dudes who spend money and time and attention without understanding she is just playing a game with them? They are useful for free stuff and compliments and someone to cry on and drive her to the airport, but they are never getting in her pants.
That was the Knicks. Some rimmed glasses wearing Comic Con dude taking the time to stop playing World Of Warcraft in his grandparents basement to make a mixtape for some chick who only sees him as good enough to wash her car while Chad Thundercock is railing her from behind.
Not sure I can blame Walsh here, he had marching orders, he did what he was told.
Walsh traded his lottery pick, and a future first to get cap space from dealing Jeffries deal. Then he saddled the team with Amare. You can blame Walsh.
CrushAlot wrote:TripleThreat wrote:Kemet wrote:Walsh dig his own hole in getting fired ..
To be fair to Walsh, several NBA teams had marching orders from their owners to clear massive cap space to try to sign LeBron James.
Charles Barkley actually came out and criticized LBJ, saying if you knew you wanted to go to Miami, just say so, do it fast, and not let all these other teams gut themselves to think they had a chance.
LBJ is one of the biggest idiots in sports history, and if not for Nike deciding what gets said about him, it would be more openly discussed in the sports media. The league actually went to war and changed the CBA over LBJ and his "decision" and the fallout.
King James, being the attention whore that he is, wore a NYY hat in some interview or at some game, knowing it would fuel speculation that he would go to the Knicks.
The Knicks thought they had a chance but did not. Ever see a hot girl string a long a bunch of weak willed and loser dudes who spend money and time and attention without understanding she is just playing a game with them? They are useful for free stuff and compliments and someone to cry on and drive her to the airport, but they are never getting in her pants.
That was the Knicks. Some rimmed glasses wearing Comic Con dude taking the time to stop playing World Of Warcraft in his grandparents basement to make a mixtape for some chick who only sees him as good enough to wash her car while Chad Thundercock is railing her from behind.
Not sure I can blame Walsh here, he had marching orders, he did what he was told.
Walsh traded his lottery pick, and a future first to get cap space from dealing Jeffries deal. Then he saddled the team with Amare. You can blame Walsh.
Amoung other things. I never understood the pass that Walsh seems to get on here.
jrodmc wrote:Funny, Melo gets destroyed here nearly every millisecond for not playing defense, but the faithful throngs will pine and pull pud over an empty double double machine (when he was here) who they admit (like in Knickland defense is some sort of afterthought) couldn't guard them. Interesting.Yeah, David Lee, the lifelong Knick making sure his number one priority is making sure he's absolutely never in the lane for a posterization camera angle.
If only we had kept Nazr Mohammed. Heard he got a ring too.
Everything is about Melo to you, huh?!
Seriously, like Nalod said, what you get paid matters. Lee is making $2 mil a year. For that price, most teams can't even get a one-way player.
knicks1248 wrote:Lee Good numbers on a losing team, just like KP. if the knicks don't make the playoffs during KP's rookie contract, he will do just like lee..THANK YOU FOR DEVELOPING ME, but i gotta go, and why would you want to keep him, lee had 5 yrs with no playoffs.
His numbers right now on SAS are excellent. In 19 min, 7 points (59%) shooting, 6 rbs, 1.6 assists, etc (and 2nd best on/off +/- on the team). You can roughly double those if you're interested in the per 36 stats. Also, one of his all-star seasons (19 PPG, 11 RPG, 4 APG) was on a 47 win western conference team.
