Knicks · Wacky Draft Plan (page 1)
BOS Trade: No.1 overall pick, Jaylen Brown, Terry Rozier and a 2018 pick swap (BKN pick; to NYK)
BOS Receive Kristaps Porzingis, 44th pick, 58th pick, a $2 million trade exception
PHI Trade: 3rd overall pick, 36th pick and 39th
PHI Receive: no.8 overall pick (Malik Monk), 44th pick, 58th pick and Jaylen Brown
SAC Trade: 5th and 10th pick
SAC Receive: no.1 overall pick, 36th pick and 39th pick
NYK Trade: Kristaps Porzingis
NYK Receive: Terry Rozier, 3rd pick (Josh Jackson), 5th pick (Jonathan Isaac) and 10th pick (Frank Ntilikina), with control of a 2018 BKN pick swap (via BOS)
The Celtics do it because they get a young star player that they can build their franchise around. KP fits a position of need for the Celtics, which is a huge plus and also offers much needed height on both ends of the floor. Save Giannias Antetokounmpo or Draymond Green, I don't think there is a better fit at the 4-5 spot with KP than Al Horford and see nothing but good things with that pairing.
Sixers do it to accelerate their rebuilding process with two swingmen that fit a position of need for them. The no.3 pick figures to be huge in this draft but with the depth still available at the 8 spot and Jaylen Brown's talents, I think they'd be inclined to roll-the-dice, especially since Bryan Colangelo has had a horrible track record recently in the draft (aka the man that gave us Andrea Bargnani with a no.1 overall pick).
Kings do the deal because they are stupid....and need the flare that comes with having a no.1 overall pick. A Markelle Fultz might not be a superstar-in-the-making but I think he is the only player (other than Tatum) who seems skilled enough to be a consummate NBA starter for years to come, even if they don't improve. That quality should make the pick that much more appealing to the Kings who routinely destroy blue chip talent.
We do the deal to hedge on the potential health risks of KP and to accelerate our own rebuilding process. With KP, goes any identity we may have developed as a franchise but you'd have to figure that at least one of those three lottery picks would work at. And as I suggested earlier, I'd go with Josh Jackson, Jonathan Isaac and Frank Ntilikina with those picks. I think I'd even try to trade Willy Hernangomez to the Nuggets for their 13th pick, to get an all-time record of 4 lottery picks in one draft. I'd gamble on slme high-risk/high-reward player like Terrence Ferguson or Frank Jackson at this spot; plus have the added benefit of uniting the Hernangomez brothers.
meloshouldgo wrote:You all are starved for lottery picks. Tyner easy to do that is to tank for 2-3 years, but starts with getting rid of Melo
....should I not want lottery picks?
NardDogNation wrote:
BOS Trade: No.1 overall pick, Jaylen Brown, Terry Rozier and a 2018 pick swap (BKN pick; to NYK)
BOS Receive Kristaps Porzingis, 44th pick, 58th pick, a $2 million trade exceptionPHI Trade: 3rd overall pick, 36th pick and 39th
PHI Receive: no.8 overall pick (Malik Monk), 44th pick, 58th pick and Jaylen BrownSAC Trade: 5th and 10th pick
SAC Receive: no.1 overall pick, 36th pick and 39th pickNYK Trade: Kristaps Porzingis
NYK Receive: Terry Rozier, 3rd pick (Josh Jackson), 5th pick (Jonathan Isaac) and 10th pick (Frank Ntilikina), with control of a 2018 BKN pick swap (via BOS)
Well, the teams in place is an interesting scenario. At minimum, you are looking at what teams need and what they might have to move.
Against the current NBA marketplace, it would take Zinger plus to get the 1st overall pick. The first overall pick is worth more than the 5th and 10th. Zinger alone could not garner two high lottery picks plus three other assets. Jaylen Brown is not enough to move from 8th to 3rd.
Boston overpays, Philly overpays, Sacto underpays quite a bit, NY dramatically underpays here.
Zinger plus the 8 plus something else to Sacto to 5 and 10, that's about right. That's about to market. Do I think the Knicks should make that deal? Yes. Sadly, but yes.
GustavBahler wrote:Judging from the last couple of months, I wouldnt be surprised if Phil offers to trade KP for the number one pick, as the centerpiece of a deal.
I dunno about you... I just care about the Knicks. If we traded KP and the return was good sand it made sense going forward? I would be good with it. I'm a knick fan not a player fan. KP hadn't done anything yet to warrant any blind loyalty. We need to get better as a team. That's it.
NardDogNation wrote:Let's trade KP, LMFAO. I know it sounds ridiculous but a number of people have made great points concerning KP's long-term health. The reality is that 7'fters do not have a great track record of health in this league, so putting the burden of an inept franchise squarely on the shoulders of one is not a good idea. That being said, here is this four team trade:BOS Trade: No.1 overall pick, Jaylen Brown, Terry Rozier and a 2018 pick swap (BKN pick; to NYK)
BOS Receive Kristaps Porzingis, 44th pick, 58th pick, a $2 million trade exceptionPHI Trade: 3rd overall pick, 36th pick and 39th
PHI Receive: no.8 overall pick (Malik Monk), 44th pick, 58th pick and Jaylen BrownSAC Trade: 5th and 10th pick
SAC Receive: no.1 overall pick, 36th pick and 39th pickNYK Trade: Kristaps Porzingis
NYK Receive: Terry Rozier, 3rd pick (Josh Jackson), 5th pick (Jonathan Isaac) and 10th pick (Frank Ntilikina), with control of a 2018 BKN pick swap (via BOS)The Celtics do it because they get a young star player that they can build their franchise around. KP fits a position of need for the Celtics, which is a huge plus and also offers much needed height on both ends of the floor. Save Giannias Antetokounmpo or Draymond Green, I don't think there is a better fit at the 4-5 spot with KP than Al Horford and see nothing but good things with that pairing.
Sixers do it to accelerate their rebuilding process with two swingmen that fit a position of need for them. The no.3 pick figures to be huge in this draft but with the depth still available at the 8 spot and Jaylen Brown's talents, I think they'd be inclined to roll-the-dice, especially since Bryan Colangelo has had a horrible track record recently in the draft (aka the man that gave us Andrea Bargnani with a no.1 overall pick).
Kings do the deal because they are stupid....and need the flare that comes with having a no.1 overall pick. A Markelle Fultz might not be a superstar-in-the-making but I think he is the only player (other than Tatum) who seems skilled enough to be a consummate NBA starter for years to come, even if they don't improve. That quality should make the pick that much more appealing to the Kings who routinely destroy blue chip talent.
We do the deal to hedge on the potential health risks of KP and to accelerate our own rebuilding process. With KP, goes any identity we may have developed as a franchise but you'd have to figure that at least one of those three lottery picks would work at. And as I suggested earlier, I'd go with Josh Jackson, Jonathan Isaac and Frank Ntilikina with those picks. I think I'd even try to trade Willy Hernangomez to the Nuggets for their 13th pick, to get an all-time record of 4 lottery picks in one draft. I'd gamble on slme high-risk/high-reward player like Terrence Ferguson or Frank Jackson at this spot; plus have the added benefit of uniting the Hernangomez brothers.
Proposed this then the xbox froze on u right!!!!
EnySpree wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Judging from the last couple of months, I wouldnt be surprised if Phil offers to trade KP for the number one pick, as the centerpiece of a deal.I dunno about you... I just care about the Knicks. If we traded KP and the return was good sand it made sense going forward? I would be good with it. I'm a knick fan not a player fan. KP hadn't done anything yet to warrant any blind loyalty. We need to get better as a team. That's it.
Blind loyalty to Phil is more of a problem for the Knicks than blind loyalty to KP.
GustavBahler wrote:EnySpree wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Judging from the last couple of months, I wouldnt be surprised if Phil offers to trade KP for the number one pick, as the centerpiece of a deal.I dunno about you... I just care about the Knicks. If we traded KP and the return was good sand it made sense going forward? I would be good with it. I'm a knick fan not a player fan. KP hadn't done anything yet to warrant any blind loyalty. We need to get better as a team. That's it.
Blind loyalty to Phil is more of a problem for the Knicks than blind loyalty to KP.
Rebuilding the team doesn't mean there's loyalty to Phil. We can't fire him in the middle of a rebuild. We need stability right now. That's all there is to that
EnySpree wrote:GustavBahler wrote:EnySpree wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Judging from the last couple of months, I wouldnt be surprised if Phil offers to trade KP for the number one pick, as the centerpiece of a deal.I dunno about you... I just care about the Knicks. If we traded KP and the return was good sand it made sense going forward? I would be good with it. I'm a knick fan not a player fan. KP hadn't done anything yet to warrant any blind loyalty. We need to get better as a team. That's it.
Blind loyalty to Phil is more of a problem for the Knicks than blind loyalty to KP.
Rebuilding the team doesn't mean there's loyalty to Phil. We can't fire him in the middle of a rebuild. We need stability right now. That's all there is to that
Gutting the roster every season to find Triangle ready players isn't rebuilding. Thats why some of us thought that Rose and Noah were a step backwards, not forwards. The blind loyalty is discounting the fact that mgmt has not provided our best draft pick since Mark Jackson with a stable environment to learn the game, expand his game. Thats why I get frustrated to hear the same defense of some of Phil's more questionable moves after 3 years. "We're rebuilding". Its like that store on 5th avenue that's always going out of business.
Im all for patience and rebuilding, but I want to actually see it in practice. This means not trading our best draft pick in decades to start all over again from scratch.
GustavBahler wrote:EnySpree wrote:GustavBahler wrote:EnySpree wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Judging from the last couple of months, I wouldnt be surprised if Phil offers to trade KP for the number one pick, as the centerpiece of a deal.I dunno about you... I just care about the Knicks. If we traded KP and the return was good sand it made sense going forward? I would be good with it. I'm a knick fan not a player fan. KP hadn't done anything yet to warrant any blind loyalty. We need to get better as a team. That's it.
Blind loyalty to Phil is more of a problem for the Knicks than blind loyalty to KP.
Rebuilding the team doesn't mean there's loyalty to Phil. We can't fire him in the middle of a rebuild. We need stability right now. That's all there is to that
Gutting the roster every season to find Triangle ready players isn't rebuilding. Thats why some of us thought that Rose and Noah were a step backwards, not forwards. The blind loyalty is discounting the fact that mgmt has not provided our best draft pick since Mark Jackson with a stable environment to learn the game, expand his game. Thats why I get frustrated to hear the same defense of some of Phil's more questionable moves after 3 years. "We're rebuilding". Its like that store on 5th avenue that's always going out of business.
Im all for patience and rebuilding, but I want to actually see it in practice. This means not trading our best draft pick in decades to start all over again from scratch.
i think in past three years we were trying to win now with melo and that hasnt gone well at all, now they are trying to get rid of melo and build around kp hopefully that goes better, their drafting has gone better than their free agency
EnySpree wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Judging from the last couple of months, I wouldnt be surprised if Phil offers to trade KP for the number one pick, as the centerpiece of a deal.I dunno about you... I just care about the Knicks. If we traded KP and the return was good sand it made sense going forward? I would be good with it. I'm a knick fan not a player fan. KP hadn't done anything yet to warrant any blind loyalty. We need to get better as a team. That's it.
I am a Knick fan also and I think Phil has done a really bad job. I think things stay as they are or get worse if he stays. I base it on what he has done as an executive. I think KP s a very good player. I think Phil is the worst or second worst executive in the nba despite being the most successful head coach. I am fine with a KP trade if it makes the Knicks better but I would be very worried about the outcome for the Knicks if Phil is the guy making the trade.
dacash wrote:I don't think you are trying to win now if you have 6 rookies on your roster and 5 were not drafted. I also think the Noah signing was because Phil sees himself as simpatico with Noah and not that Noah was brought in to build around Melo. The Knicks had 8 undrafted players and two second rounders on a fifteen man roster. That means there is a huge talent deficit. That isn't a team that has much of a shot at competing for anything.GustavBahler wrote:EnySpree wrote:GustavBahler wrote:EnySpree wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Judging from the last couple of months, I wouldnt be surprised if Phil offers to trade KP for the number one pick, as the centerpiece of a deal.I dunno about you... I just care about the Knicks. If we traded KP and the return was good sand it made sense going forward? I would be good with it. I'm a knick fan not a player fan. KP hadn't done anything yet to warrant any blind loyalty. We need to get better as a team. That's it.
Blind loyalty to Phil is more of a problem for the Knicks than blind loyalty to KP.
Rebuilding the team doesn't mean there's loyalty to Phil. We can't fire him in the middle of a rebuild. We need stability right now. That's all there is to that
Gutting the roster every season to find Triangle ready players isn't rebuilding. Thats why some of us thought that Rose and Noah were a step backwards, not forwards. The blind loyalty is discounting the fact that mgmt has not provided our best draft pick since Mark Jackson with a stable environment to learn the game, expand his game. Thats why I get frustrated to hear the same defense of some of Phil's more questionable moves after 3 years. "We're rebuilding". Its like that store on 5th avenue that's always going out of business.
Im all for patience and rebuilding, but I want to actually see it in practice. This means not trading our best draft pick in decades to start all over again from scratch.
i think in past three years we were trying to win now with melo and that hasnt gone well at all, now they are trying to get rid of melo and build around kp hopefully that goes better, their drafting has gone better than their free agency
CrushAlot wrote:dacash wrote:I don't think you are trying to win now if you have 6 rookies on your roster and 5 were not drafted. I also think the Noah signing was because Phil sees himself as simpatico with Noah and not that Noah was brought in to build around Melo. The Knicks had 8 undrafted players and two second rounders on a fifteen man roster. That means there is a huge talent deficit. That isn't a team that has much of a shot at competing for anything.GustavBahler wrote:EnySpree wrote:GustavBahler wrote:EnySpree wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Judging from the last couple of months, I wouldnt be surprised if Phil offers to trade KP for the number one pick, as the centerpiece of a deal.I dunno about you... I just care about the Knicks. If we traded KP and the return was good sand it made sense going forward? I would be good with it. I'm a knick fan not a player fan. KP hadn't done anything yet to warrant any blind loyalty. We need to get better as a team. That's it.
Blind loyalty to Phil is more of a problem for the Knicks than blind loyalty to KP.
Rebuilding the team doesn't mean there's loyalty to Phil. We can't fire him in the middle of a rebuild. We need stability right now. That's all there is to that
Gutting the roster every season to find Triangle ready players isn't rebuilding. Thats why some of us thought that Rose and Noah were a step backwards, not forwards. The blind loyalty is discounting the fact that mgmt has not provided our best draft pick since Mark Jackson with a stable environment to learn the game, expand his game. Thats why I get frustrated to hear the same defense of some of Phil's more questionable moves after 3 years. "We're rebuilding". Its like that store on 5th avenue that's always going out of business.
Im all for patience and rebuilding, but I want to actually see it in practice. This means not trading our best draft pick in decades to start all over again from scratch.
i think in past three years we were trying to win now with melo and that hasnt gone well at all, now they are trying to get rid of melo and build around kp hopefully that goes better, their drafting has gone better than their free agency
you dont think rose and clee and noah were brought here more for melo than kp?
dacash wrote:I think Phil really likes Noah. I don't think there was enough talent to win. More than half the team was undrafted. Two thirds of the team was either undrafted or taken in the second round.CrushAlot wrote:dacash wrote:I don't think you are trying to win now if you have 6 rookies on your roster and 5 were not drafted. I also think the Noah signing was because Phil sees himself as simpatico with Noah and not that Noah was brought in to build around Melo. The Knicks had 8 undrafted players and two second rounders on a fifteen man roster. That means there is a huge talent deficit. That isn't a team that has much of a shot at competing for anything.GustavBahler wrote:EnySpree wrote:GustavBahler wrote:EnySpree wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Judging from the last couple of months, I wouldnt be surprised if Phil offers to trade KP for the number one pick, as the centerpiece of a deal.I dunno about you... I just care about the Knicks. If we traded KP and the return was good sand it made sense going forward? I would be good with it. I'm a knick fan not a player fan. KP hadn't done anything yet to warrant any blind loyalty. We need to get better as a team. That's it.
Blind loyalty to Phil is more of a problem for the Knicks than blind loyalty to KP.
Rebuilding the team doesn't mean there's loyalty to Phil. We can't fire him in the middle of a rebuild. We need stability right now. That's all there is to that
Gutting the roster every season to find Triangle ready players isn't rebuilding. Thats why some of us thought that Rose and Noah were a step backwards, not forwards. The blind loyalty is discounting the fact that mgmt has not provided our best draft pick since Mark Jackson with a stable environment to learn the game, expand his game. Thats why I get frustrated to hear the same defense of some of Phil's more questionable moves after 3 years. "We're rebuilding". Its like that store on 5th avenue that's always going out of business.
Im all for patience and rebuilding, but I want to actually see it in practice. This means not trading our best draft pick in decades to start all over again from scratch.
i think in past three years we were trying to win now with melo and that hasnt gone well at all, now they are trying to get rid of melo and build around kp hopefully that goes better, their drafting has gone better than their free agency
you dont think rose and clee and noah were brought here more for melo than kp?
TripleThreat wrote:NardDogNation wrote:
BOS Trade: No.1 overall pick, Jaylen Brown, Terry Rozier and a 2018 pick swap (BKN pick; to NYK)
BOS Receive Kristaps Porzingis, 44th pick, 58th pick, a $2 million trade exceptionPHI Trade: 3rd overall pick, 36th pick and 39th
PHI Receive: no.8 overall pick (Malik Monk), 44th pick, 58th pick and Jaylen BrownSAC Trade: 5th and 10th pick
SAC Receive: no.1 overall pick, 36th pick and 39th pickNYK Trade: Kristaps Porzingis
NYK Receive: Terry Rozier, 3rd pick (Josh Jackson), 5th pick (Jonathan Isaac) and 10th pick (Frank Ntilikina), with control of a 2018 BKN pick swap (via BOS)
Well, the teams in place is an interesting scenario. At minimum, you are looking at what teams need and what they might have to move.Against the current NBA marketplace, it would take Zinger plus to get the 1st overall pick. The first overall pick is worth more than the 5th and 10th. Zinger alone could not garner two high lottery picks plus three other assets. Jaylen Brown is not enough to move from 8th to 3rd.
Boston overpays, Philly overpays, Sacto underpays quite a bit, NY dramatically underpays here.
Zinger plus the 8 plus something else to Sacto to 5 and 10, that's about right. That's about to market. Do I think the Knicks should make that deal? Yes. Sadly, but yes.
I generally disagree with the premise of your rebuttal. The NBA Draft very much is like the lottery in real life. Higher seedings are like the equivalent of having more lottery tickets: it gives you more chances to hit the jackpot but doesn't change the probability of it actually happening, which is pretty rare. But Kristaps is that jackpot and all we are asking for is enough lottery tickets (picks and assets) to make the gamble worthwhile, which is a modest request IMO. So I don't think we'd be asking for too much based on what I proposed. After all, Kevin Love got back two players picked no.1 overall; this should be somewhere in that ballpark.
Besides, I don't think it is improbable for Danny Ainge to part with that no.1 pick and assets for KP given his disposition and the Celtics' present aspirations. He's tipped his hand in the past and shown how desperate he is for a franchise-caliber player by offering FOUR first round draft picks (including a BKN pick) for an unproven Justice Winslow during the 2015 draft. Kristaps Porzingis IS already that star-caliber player and actually plays a position of need. And with him entering his 3rd year in the league, he is much closer to realizing that franchise-changjng potential than any pick in this current draft, which would better fit the Celtics' window with their current core. Not to play the race card but with Kristaps also being considered white, it would help a great deal with a fan base that has had a checkered history with race relations. Just saying. I really think this has legs from a number of perspectives.
As for the Sixers, I'm not sure they overpay. Bryan Colangelo has had a subpar record in drafting players, which I think might make him inclined to hedge a bit and stagger the risk involved. Getting two talented young players for that pick instead of one, serves that end especially since Jaylen Brown has demonstrated he is a player in this league. If Malik Monk (or Frank Ntilikina) is available at 8, I think he makes the move since he can get two guys that allow Ben Simmons to run point but defend the 4 position.
As for the Kings, they are morons, which is why they do it. Is their any real expectation that they will be able to yield anything meaningful with that 10th pick given their player development history? So, I do agree they underpay since the 5th pick will likely be the only pick to produce a surefire talent but in a vacuum, I think the cumulative effect of those picks in this type of draft outweigh any potential benefits offered by the first overall pick.
NardDogNation wrote:Let's trade KP, LMFAO. I know it sounds ridiculous but a number of people have made great points concerning KP's long-term health. The reality is that 7'fters do not have a great track record of health in this league, so putting the burden of an inept franchise squarely on the shoulders of one is not a good idea. That being said, here is this four team trade:BOS Trade: No.1 overall pick, Jaylen Brown, Terry Rozier and a 2018 pick swap (BKN pick; to NYK)
BOS Receive Kristaps Porzingis, 44th pick, 58th pick, a $2 million trade exceptionPHI Trade: 3rd overall pick, 36th pick and 39th
PHI Receive: no.8 overall pick (Malik Monk), 44th pick, 58th pick and Jaylen BrownSAC Trade: 5th and 10th pick
SAC Receive: no.1 overall pick, 36th pick and 39th pickNYK Trade: Kristaps Porzingis
NYK Receive: Terry Rozier, 3rd pick (Josh Jackson), 5th pick (Jonathan Isaac) and 10th pick (Frank Ntilikina), with control of a 2018 BKN pick swap (via BOS)The Celtics do it because they get a young star player that they can build their franchise around. KP fits a position of need for the Celtics, which is a huge plus and also offers much needed height on both ends of the floor. Save Giannias Antetokounmpo or Draymond Green, I don't think there is a better fit at the 4-5 spot with KP than Al Horford and see nothing but good things with that pairing.
Sixers do it to accelerate their rebuilding process with two swingmen that fit a position of need for them. The no.3 pick figures to be huge in this draft but with the depth still available at the 8 spot and Jaylen Brown's talents, I think they'd be inclined to roll-the-dice, especially since Bryan Colangelo has had a horrible track record recently in the draft (aka the man that gave us Andrea Bargnani with a no.1 overall pick).
Kings do the deal because they are stupid....and need the flare that comes with having a no.1 overall pick. A Markelle Fultz might not be a superstar-in-the-making but I think he is the only player (other than Tatum) who seems skilled enough to be a consummate NBA starter for years to come, even if they don't improve. That quality should make the pick that much more appealing to the Kings who routinely destroy blue chip talent.
We do the deal to hedge on the potential health risks of KP and to accelerate our own rebuilding process. With KP, goes any identity we may have developed as a franchise but you'd have to figure that at least one of those three lottery picks would work at. And as I suggested earlier, I'd go with Josh Jackson, Jonathan Isaac and Frank Ntilikina with those picks. I think I'd even try to trade Willy Hernangomez to the Nuggets for their 13th pick, to get an all-time record of 4 lottery picks in one draft. I'd gamble on slme high-risk/high-reward player like Terrence Ferguson or Frank Jackson at this spot; plus have the added benefit of uniting the Hernangomez brothers.
So we should be afraid Kristaps to get injured and having a short NBA run or became a bust but Boston should 100% believe that KP is their future franchise player.
May be Boston should trade IT for KP because IT is short but KP is tall?
KP is known commodity with unlimited potential.
No NBA club in their right mind will trade this kind of player.
Consequences of this becoming a mistake are much bigger that benefits of success.
This called gambling with high stakes.
STARTERS
PG: Frank Ntilikina
SG: Victor Oladipo (Melo + Courtney Lee Trade to LAC; OKC gets Austin Rivers and JJ Redick from LAC)
SF: Josh Jackson
PF: Juan Hernangomez (for Kyle O'Quinn, Mindaugas Kuzminskaus and TORs 23rd pick)
C: Willy Hernangomez
ROTATION
G: Terry Rozier III
G: Jamal Crawford (Melo+Courtney Lee trade)
G: Ron Baker
F: Jonathan Isaac
C: Joakim Noah
BENCH
G:Jarrett Jack (via free agency)
F: DeMarre Carroll (acquired using cap space for 23rd pick to send to DEN in Hernangomez trade)
F: Maurice Ndour
F: Lou Amundson (via free agency)
C: Marshall Plumlee
ASSETS:
2018 First Round Pick Swap with BKN (via BOS)
2019 First Round Pick Swap with LAC (via Melo deal)
2020 First Round Pick Swap with LAC (via Melo deal)
The aforementioned team would be super-long, super-versatile and have a great mix of aspiring youth and hardnosed veterans. We'd almost be able to switch everything on defense with the guys in our rotation and on the offensive end: space the floor, move without the basketball and let the triangle create our opportunities like Phil intends. I just think we'd have a great lockerroom that could grow from all the losing. I also like that a good bit of the youth we'd be banking on have an international flare and background playing professionally overseas (i.e. Frank Ntilikina, Willy and Juan Hernangomez) or have some veteran experience (i.e. Victor Oladipo and Terry Rozier III) which would suggest they are mature enough to partake in the nightlife of New York responsibily but stay on their grind to continually improve.
I also like that if we fall flat on our face with these guys, we still have the possibility of gaining lottery picks without having to suffer through all the losing that comes with it because of the pick swaps from now until 2020 (thanks to BKN and LAC).