Knicks · Begley reports that Celtics have made Phil offer for KP... (page 1)

SocraticBallin22 @ 6/22/2017 3:37 PM
The Celtics have offered the Knicks a deal for Kristaps Porzingis that includes their No. 3 pick, an additional lottery pick that they think they can acquire tonight and a player, executives familiar with Boston's offer told ESPN. Obviously, the trade would be contingent on Boston acquiring that pick, which would likely be ahead of the Knicks' No. 8 pick. It is unclear at this point if the Knicks have interest in the trade. Phil Jackson said the club is taking calls on trades for Porzingis.

Ian Begley, ESPN Staff Writer

Things are starting to get interesting. Say we draft Fox at #3 (our franchise point guard of the future), pick up Jaylen Brown as the additional player (budding prospect who played well in the clutch during the playoffs last year), and an additional 1st rounder this year ahead of us...do you consider it? And then say we draft Lauri at 8 to replace KP.

Guess what, in this scenario, we just netted 4 potential starters in one draft. Fox has the potential to be a franchise changing talent, Lauri has immense talent will be at least a starter in this league for a long time, Brown is likely a Melo replacement with prototypical small forward skills and say the additional pick nets us Monk. 4 for 1 is how I see it as far as rebuild.

Check this potential scenario from this trade: Fox, Monk, Jaylen Brown and Lauri for KP. Hello? We automatically become one of the most young, exciting teams in the lead rebuilding.

Unless you think KP is going to be a perennial all star and hall of famer in his career, this is a move you def consider for a team lacking so much talent.

CrushAlot @ 6/22/2017 3:38 PM
SocraticBallin22 wrote:The Celtics have offered the Knicks a deal for Kristaps Porzingis that includes their No. 3 pick, an additional lottery pick that they think they can acquire tonight and a player, executives familiar with Boston's offer told ESPN. Obviously, the trade would be contingent on Boston acquiring that pick, which would likely be ahead of the Knicks' No. 8 pick. It is unclear at this point if the Knicks have interest in the trade. Phil Jackson said the club is taking calls on trades for Porzingis.

Ian Begley, ESPN Staff Writer

Things are starting to get interesting. Say we draft Fox at #3 (our franchise point guard of the future), pick up Jaylen Brown as the additional player (budding prospect who played well in the clutch during the playoffs last year), and an additional 1st rounder this year ahead of us...do you consider it? And then say we draft Lauri at 8 to replace KP.

Guess what, in this scenario, we just netted 4 potential starters in one draft. Fox has the potential to be a franchise changing talent, Lauri has immense talent will be at least a starter in this league for a long time, Brown is likely a Melo replacement with prototypical small forward skills and say the additional pick nets us Monk. 4 for 1 is how I see it as far as rebuild.

Check this potential scenario from this trade: Fox, Monk, Jaylen Brown and Lauri for KP. Hello? We automatically become one of the most young, exciting teams in the lead rebuilding.

Unless you think KP is going to be a perennial all star and hall of famer in his career, this is a move you def consider for a team lacking so much talent.

If the Knicks have three picks in this draft I think they take Jackson, Laurie and Frank.
EnySpree @ 6/22/2017 3:43 PM
It's a dream cone true if this is real. The Knicks would be a well rounded athletically skilled group. A team that fits us perfectly
yellowboy90 @ 6/22/2017 3:44 PM
I think Minny is the team they think they can get the pick from.
Bonn1997 @ 6/22/2017 3:45 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:I think Minny is the team they think they can get the pick from.

Where ya been?!?

yellowboy90 @ 6/22/2017 3:45 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:The Celtics have offered the Knicks a deal for Kristaps Porzingis that includes their No. 3 pick, an additional lottery pick that they think they can acquire tonight and a player, executives familiar with Boston's offer told ESPN. Obviously, the trade would be contingent on Boston acquiring that pick, which would likely be ahead of the Knicks' No. 8 pick. It is unclear at this point if the Knicks have interest in the trade. Phil Jackson said the club is taking calls on trades for Porzingis.

Ian Begley, ESPN Staff Writer

Things are starting to get interesting. Say we draft Fox at #3 (our franchise point guard of the future), pick up Jaylen Brown as the additional player (budding prospect who played well in the clutch during the playoffs last year), and an additional 1st rounder this year ahead of us...do you consider it? And then say we draft Lauri at 8 to replace KP.

Guess what, in this scenario, we just netted 4 potential starters in one draft. Fox has the potential to be a franchise changing talent, Lauri has immense talent will be at least a starter in this league for a long time, Brown is likely a Melo replacement with prototypical small forward skills and say the additional pick nets us Monk. 4 for 1 is how I see it as far as rebuild.

Check this potential scenario from this trade: Fox, Monk, Jaylen Brown and Lauri for KP. Hello? We automatically become one of the most young, exciting teams in the lead rebuilding.

Unless you think KP is going to be a perennial all star and hall of famer in his career, this is a move you def consider for a team lacking so much talent.

If the Knicks have three picks in this draft I think they take Jackson, Laurie and Frank.

Those are some sad picks.

A smart team would go Isaac, DSJR, and Collins.

StarksEwing1 @ 6/22/2017 3:46 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:The Celtics have offered the Knicks a deal for Kristaps Porzingis that includes their No. 3 pick, an additional lottery pick that they think they can acquire tonight and a player, executives familiar with Boston's offer told ESPN. Obviously, the trade would be contingent on Boston acquiring that pick, which would likely be ahead of the Knicks' No. 8 pick. It is unclear at this point if the Knicks have interest in the trade. Phil Jackson said the club is taking calls on trades for Porzingis.

Ian Begley, ESPN Staff Writer

Things are starting to get interesting. Say we draft Fox at #3 (our franchise point guard of the future), pick up Jaylen Brown as the additional player (budding prospect who played well in the clutch during the playoffs last year), and an additional 1st rounder this year ahead of us...do you consider it? And then say we draft Lauri at 8 to replace KP.

Guess what, in this scenario, we just netted 4 potential starters in one draft. Fox has the potential to be a franchise changing talent, Lauri has immense talent will be at least a starter in this league for a long time, Brown is likely a Melo replacement with prototypical small forward skills and say the additional pick nets us Monk. 4 for 1 is how I see it as far as rebuild.

Check this potential scenario from this trade: Fox, Monk, Jaylen Brown and Lauri for KP. Hello? We automatically become one of the most young, exciting teams in the lead rebuilding.

Unless you think KP is going to be a perennial all star and hall of famer in his career, this is a move you def consider for a team lacking so much talent.

If the Knicks have three picks in this draft I think they take Jackson, Laurie and Frank.

Those are some sad picks.

A smart team would go Isaac, DSJR, and Collins.

Collins is a reach, I like smith but his injury issues are very concerning. Isaac is a possibility
yellowboy90 @ 6/22/2017 3:47 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:I think Minny is the team they think they can get the pick from.

Where ya been?!?

I've been lurking. Quoting a few posters and then changing my mind.

Knickoftime @ 6/22/2017 3:48 PM
SocraticBallin22 wrote:Check this potential scenario from this trade: Fox, Monk, Jaylen Brown and Lauri for KP. Hello? We automatically become one of the most young, exciting teams in the lead rebuilding.

In your scenario, your replacing KP with Lauri, you aren't getting him FOR KP.

Knicks own that pick already, WITH KP.

yellowboy90 @ 6/22/2017 3:49 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:The Celtics have offered the Knicks a deal for Kristaps Porzingis that includes their No. 3 pick, an additional lottery pick that they think they can acquire tonight and a player, executives familiar with Boston's offer told ESPN. Obviously, the trade would be contingent on Boston acquiring that pick, which would likely be ahead of the Knicks' No. 8 pick. It is unclear at this point if the Knicks have interest in the trade. Phil Jackson said the club is taking calls on trades for Porzingis.

Ian Begley, ESPN Staff Writer

Things are starting to get interesting. Say we draft Fox at #3 (our franchise point guard of the future), pick up Jaylen Brown as the additional player (budding prospect who played well in the clutch during the playoffs last year), and an additional 1st rounder this year ahead of us...do you consider it? And then say we draft Lauri at 8 to replace KP.

Guess what, in this scenario, we just netted 4 potential starters in one draft. Fox has the potential to be a franchise changing talent, Lauri has immense talent will be at least a starter in this league for a long time, Brown is likely a Melo replacement with prototypical small forward skills and say the additional pick nets us Monk. 4 for 1 is how I see it as far as rebuild.

Check this potential scenario from this trade: Fox, Monk, Jaylen Brown and Lauri for KP. Hello? We automatically become one of the most young, exciting teams in the lead rebuilding.

Unless you think KP is going to be a perennial all star and hall of famer in his career, this is a move you def consider for a team lacking so much talent.

If the Knicks have three picks in this draft I think they take Jackson, Laurie and Frank.

Those are some sad picks.

A smart team would go Isaac, DSJR, and Collins.

Collins is a reach, I like smith but his injury issues are very concerning. Isaac is a possibility

In what way is Collins a reach?

CrushAlot @ 6/22/2017 3:49 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:The Celtics have offered the Knicks a deal for Kristaps Porzingis that includes their No. 3 pick, an additional lottery pick that they think they can acquire tonight and a player, executives familiar with Boston's offer told ESPN. Obviously, the trade would be contingent on Boston acquiring that pick, which would likely be ahead of the Knicks' No. 8 pick. It is unclear at this point if the Knicks have interest in the trade. Phil Jackson said the club is taking calls on trades for Porzingis.

Ian Begley, ESPN Staff Writer

Things are starting to get interesting. Say we draft Fox at #3 (our franchise point guard of the future), pick up Jaylen Brown as the additional player (budding prospect who played well in the clutch during the playoffs last year), and an additional 1st rounder this year ahead of us...do you consider it? And then say we draft Lauri at 8 to replace KP.

Guess what, in this scenario, we just netted 4 potential starters in one draft. Fox has the potential to be a franchise changing talent, Lauri has immense talent will be at least a starter in this league for a long time, Brown is likely a Melo replacement with prototypical small forward skills and say the additional pick nets us Monk. 4 for 1 is how I see it as far as rebuild.

Check this potential scenario from this trade: Fox, Monk, Jaylen Brown and Lauri for KP. Hello? We automatically become one of the most young, exciting teams in the lead rebuilding.

Unless you think KP is going to be a perennial all star and hall of famer in his career, this is a move you def consider for a team lacking so much talent.

If the Knicks have three picks in this draft I think they take Jackson, Laurie and Frank.

Those are some sad picks.

A smart team would go Isaac, DSJR, and Collins.


I just keep hearing they like Laurie and Frank. Jackson seems to be the big target from what is being reported.
yellowboy90 @ 6/22/2017 3:51 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:The Celtics have offered the Knicks a deal for Kristaps Porzingis that includes their No. 3 pick, an additional lottery pick that they think they can acquire tonight and a player, executives familiar with Boston's offer told ESPN. Obviously, the trade would be contingent on Boston acquiring that pick, which would likely be ahead of the Knicks' No. 8 pick. It is unclear at this point if the Knicks have interest in the trade. Phil Jackson said the club is taking calls on trades for Porzingis.

Ian Begley, ESPN Staff Writer

Things are starting to get interesting. Say we draft Fox at #3 (our franchise point guard of the future), pick up Jaylen Brown as the additional player (budding prospect who played well in the clutch during the playoffs last year), and an additional 1st rounder this year ahead of us...do you consider it? And then say we draft Lauri at 8 to replace KP.

Guess what, in this scenario, we just netted 4 potential starters in one draft. Fox has the potential to be a franchise changing talent, Lauri has immense talent will be at least a starter in this league for a long time, Brown is likely a Melo replacement with prototypical small forward skills and say the additional pick nets us Monk. 4 for 1 is how I see it as far as rebuild.

Check this potential scenario from this trade: Fox, Monk, Jaylen Brown and Lauri for KP. Hello? We automatically become one of the most young, exciting teams in the lead rebuilding.

Unless you think KP is going to be a perennial all star and hall of famer in his career, this is a move you def consider for a team lacking so much talent.

If the Knicks have three picks in this draft I think they take Jackson, Laurie and Frank.

Those are some sad picks.

A smart team would go Isaac, DSJR, and Collins.


I just keep hearing they like Laurie and Frank. Jackson seems to be the big target from what is being reported.

Oh, I have an idea what the Knicks will do but I was talking about what a smart team would do. The knicks probably go the route you mentioned with a possibility of Monk and Mitchell being substituted for on of the players you mentioned.

StarksEwing1 @ 6/22/2017 3:53 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:The Celtics have offered the Knicks a deal for Kristaps Porzingis that includes their No. 3 pick, an additional lottery pick that they think they can acquire tonight and a player, executives familiar with Boston's offer told ESPN. Obviously, the trade would be contingent on Boston acquiring that pick, which would likely be ahead of the Knicks' No. 8 pick. It is unclear at this point if the Knicks have interest in the trade. Phil Jackson said the club is taking calls on trades for Porzingis.

Ian Begley, ESPN Staff Writer

Things are starting to get interesting. Say we draft Fox at #3 (our franchise point guard of the future), pick up Jaylen Brown as the additional player (budding prospect who played well in the clutch during the playoffs last year), and an additional 1st rounder this year ahead of us...do you consider it? And then say we draft Lauri at 8 to replace KP.

Guess what, in this scenario, we just netted 4 potential starters in one draft. Fox has the potential to be a franchise changing talent, Lauri has immense talent will be at least a starter in this league for a long time, Brown is likely a Melo replacement with prototypical small forward skills and say the additional pick nets us Monk. 4 for 1 is how I see it as far as rebuild.

Check this potential scenario from this trade: Fox, Monk, Jaylen Brown and Lauri for KP. Hello? We automatically become one of the most young, exciting teams in the lead rebuilding.

Unless you think KP is going to be a perennial all star and hall of famer in his career, this is a move you def consider for a team lacking so much talent.

If the Knicks have three picks in this draft I think they take Jackson, Laurie and Frank.

Those are some sad picks.

A smart team would go Isaac, DSJR, and Collins.


I just keep hearing they like Laurie and Frank. Jackson seems to be the big target from what is being reported.

Oh, I have an idea what the Knicks will do but I was talking about what a smart team would do. The knicks probably go the route you mentioned with a possibility of Monk and Mitchell being substituted for on of the players you mentioned.

Way too much negativity man. Phil has made plenty of errors but drafting has actually been a strong point
SocraticBallin22 @ 6/22/2017 4:04 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:Check this potential scenario from this trade: Fox, Monk, Jaylen Brown and Lauri for KP. Hello? We automatically become one of the most young, exciting teams in the lead rebuilding.

In your scenario, your replacing KP with Lauri, you aren't getting him FOR KP.

Knicks own that pick already, WITH KP.

Correct. We are getting 2 lottery picks and a young player (Brown--essentially another lottery pick he's 20) for KP. 3 for 1. And we have his replacement with our lottery pick at #8. Not too bad.

BigDaddyG @ 6/22/2017 4:06 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:The Celtics have offered the Knicks a deal for Kristaps Porzingis that includes their No. 3 pick, an additional lottery pick that they think they can acquire tonight and a player, executives familiar with Boston's offer told ESPN. Obviously, the trade would be contingent on Boston acquiring that pick, which would likely be ahead of the Knicks' No. 8 pick. It is unclear at this point if the Knicks have interest in the trade. Phil Jackson said the club is taking calls on trades for Porzingis.

Ian Begley, ESPN Staff Writer

Things are starting to get interesting. Say we draft Fox at #3 (our franchise point guard of the future), pick up Jaylen Brown as the additional player (budding prospect who played well in the clutch during the playoffs last year), and an additional 1st rounder this year ahead of us...do you consider it? And then say we draft Lauri at 8 to replace KP.

Guess what, in this scenario, we just netted 4 potential starters in one draft. Fox has the potential to be a franchise changing talent, Lauri has immense talent will be at least a starter in this league for a long time, Brown is likely a Melo replacement with prototypical small forward skills and say the additional pick nets us Monk. 4 for 1 is how I see it as far as rebuild.

Check this potential scenario from this trade: Fox, Monk, Jaylen Brown and Lauri for KP. Hello? We automatically become one of the most young, exciting teams in the lead rebuilding.

Unless you think KP is going to be a perennial all star and hall of famer in his career, this is a move you def consider for a team lacking so much talent.

If the Knicks have three picks in this draft I think they take Jackson, Laurie and Frank.

Those are some sad picks.

A smart team would go Isaac, DSJR, and Collins.

Collins is a reach, I like smith but his injury issues are very concerning. Isaac is a possibility

In what way is Collins a reach?


Collins pretty much has it all in terms of skills. His only problem is his body, which needs to be developed, and the fact that a lot of teams in the draft have a center. He would easily go top 10 in past drafts.
SocraticBallin22 @ 6/22/2017 4:06 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:The Celtics have offered the Knicks a deal for Kristaps Porzingis that includes their No. 3 pick, an additional lottery pick that they think they can acquire tonight and a player, executives familiar with Boston's offer told ESPN. Obviously, the trade would be contingent on Boston acquiring that pick, which would likely be ahead of the Knicks' No. 8 pick. It is unclear at this point if the Knicks have interest in the trade. Phil Jackson said the club is taking calls on trades for Porzingis.

Ian Begley, ESPN Staff Writer

Things are starting to get interesting. Say we draft Fox at #3 (our franchise point guard of the future), pick up Jaylen Brown as the additional player (budding prospect who played well in the clutch during the playoffs last year), and an additional 1st rounder this year ahead of us...do you consider it? And then say we draft Lauri at 8 to replace KP.

Guess what, in this scenario, we just netted 4 potential starters in one draft. Fox has the potential to be a franchise changing talent, Lauri has immense talent will be at least a starter in this league for a long time, Brown is likely a Melo replacement with prototypical small forward skills and say the additional pick nets us Monk. 4 for 1 is how I see it as far as rebuild.

Check this potential scenario from this trade: Fox, Monk, Jaylen Brown and Lauri for KP. Hello? We automatically become one of the most young, exciting teams in the lead rebuilding.

Unless you think KP is going to be a perennial all star and hall of famer in his career, this is a move you def consider for a team lacking so much talent.

If the Knicks have three picks in this draft I think they take Jackson, Laurie and Frank.

Those are some sad picks.

A smart team would go Isaac, DSJR, and Collins.

I happen to love Fox. Have for a long time. But I would be thrilled with Josh Jackson there. Either way, as long as Clarence Gaines is drafting, I'll be happy. We would get a boat load of prospects/talent in return.

BigRedDog @ 6/22/2017 4:08 PM
Would rather have Nets pick next yr instead of an additional lottery pick this yr
StarksEwing1 @ 6/22/2017 4:10 PM
BigRedDog wrote:Would rather have Nets pick next yr instead of an additional lottery pick this yr
Me too but this year has a deep draft class. Lets face it getting 2 top 7 picks plus maybe crowder or Brown is a bigtime haul for a 2 year player. Hell it would be a big haul for Town who so far has been the better player
BigRedDog @ 6/22/2017 4:12 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:Would rather have Nets pick next yr instead of an additional lottery pick this yr
Me too but this year has a deep draft class. Lets face it getting 2 top 7 picks plus maybe crowder or Brown is a bigtime haul for a 2 year player. Hell it would be a big haul for Town who so far has been the better player

I like Crowder but he is going to need to get paid soon. Either trade him for another 1st rnder or get Brown

Chandler @ 6/22/2017 4:14 PM
BigRedDog wrote:Would rather have Nets pick next yr instead of an additional lottery pick this yr

Ainge knows that the Nets have a good chanceto be worse this year w/o Lopez and he might get another #1 -- lucky bastard

StarksEwing1 @ 6/22/2017 4:14 PM
BigRedDog wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:Would rather have Nets pick next yr instead of an additional lottery pick this yr
Me too but this year has a deep draft class. Lets face it getting 2 top 7 picks plus maybe crowder or Brown is a bigtime haul for a 2 year player. Hell it would be a big haul for Town who so far has been the better player

I like Crowder but he is going to need to get paid soon. Either trade him for another 1st rnder or get Brown

I think thats what they may do. As much as I like Crowder he may be used in another deal. Brown is a young talent to maybe build with the others.
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