he has supposedly changed his stance on that. It's from Frank AssHola so not sure any of this can be believed.
https://t.co/H3uiOvI29a
Carmelo Anthony is currently reluctant to move out of New York for family reasons. Anthony and his wife are estranged and he continues to have a close relationship with his only son.
For that reason, Anthony is no longer as interested in playing in Los Angeles. The Los Angeles Clippers have appeared to be the most realistic trading partner for Anthony in the past.
Anthony was considering accepting a trade to either the Philadelphia 76ers or Washington Wizards, which would keep him close to New York, but his mindset now is to remain with the Knicks.
Phil Jackson confirmed Anthony's position in an interview with MSG Network when the Knicks president said: "We've expressed the fact that we haven't been successful and it might be time for (Carmelo) to find an opportunity to go somewhere else. He's come back and said he'd just as soon stay.
Anthony is owed $54 million over the next two seasons.
I believe Windhorst said on Lowe's podcast that family considerations were more important than winning to Melo right now. Melo in Washington would be fun to see.
CrushAlot wrote:I believe Windhorst said on Lowe's podcast that family considerations were more important than winning to Melo right now. Melo in Washington would be fun to see.
And they're a team that i've been hoping we could trade him to cause they have the kind of assets we need in young players.
If we cut Melo then he can have even more time with his family. And his stripper.
newyorker4ever wrote:CrushAlot wrote:I believe Windhorst said on Lowe's podcast that family considerations were more important than winning to Melo right now. Melo in Washington would be fun to see.
And they're a team that i've been hoping we could trade him to cause they have the kind of assets we need in young players.
Didnt they try to sign Noah? If they take Noah Id give them Melo
This is becoming non story.
Melo doesn't care about winning -- he wants to stay home-play in westchester-- who really cares?
BRIGGS wrote:This is becoming non story.
Melo doesn't care about winning -- he wants to stay home-play in westchester-- who really cares?
Would the Nets take him? Straight up trade for Jarrett Allen
BRIGGS wrote:This is becoming non story.
Melo doesn't care about winning -- he wants to stay home-
Him and Nowitzki character discredit the NBA.
When Paul and Griffen resign with the Clips, I'm sure their #1 reason will be they think they can beat the Warriors THIS year.
Jmpasq wrote:BRIGGS wrote:This is becoming non story.
Melo doesn't care about winning -- he wants to stay home-play in westchester-- who really cares?
Would the Nets take him? Straight up trade for Jarrett Allen
They got a steal in Allen that late. I also love the Russell trade. It was a really good week for them.
Jmpasq wrote:BRIGGS wrote:This is becoming non story.
Melo doesn't care about winning -- he wants to stay home-play in westchester-- who really cares?
Would the Nets take him? Straight up trade for Jarrett Allen
Melo for Lin/Mozgov - poetic justice 
Honestly, it might be worth a call to the Nets - they have no pick next year so no reason to tank, and making the Nets better depricates the value of Boston's best trade asset. Melo dosen't have to move, gets his $8 mil trade kicker, and gets to show up Phil by torching the Knicks 4x a year for the next two years.
Might as well accept that Melo is staying! People keep trying to come up with scenarios but Melo wants to stay and Phil doesn't want to just give Melo away for free. The only option is for Melo to stay.
He could be best 6th men in a league this year :D
Gudris wrote:He could be best 6th men in a league this year :D
The man isn't going to buy in that is the biggest problem. I'm not questioning his talent but it comes at the expense of the system and team.
The fans get hurt in this whole deal more than anyone else including Phil and Melo but that's never brought up in tweets by the media or in articles. We gave up a ton to get Melo but won't get anything back for him with him refusing to waive his NTC for any team that would actually be able to trade anything with value for him. It's not just Phil that knows he's not a fit for what the Knicks are trying to do cause the smart fans that pay attention to this stuff also know he needs to go so we can start our rebuild the right way, and him refusing to waive his NTC is delaying our rebuild. He's hurting our cap for signing free agents with the 50+ we owe him and he's hurting the young kids in learning the system we're trying to teach them cause he refuses to buy in to it and change his game for him to better fit it. The young kids that look up to a guy like Melo see all of this and might think that if Melo won't buy into the system then why should they. The whole thing is a big cluster f**k and could change if he would just accept that this isn't the right place for him.
THE FANS GET HURT THE MOST IN ALL OF THIS.
newyorker4ever wrote:The fans get hurt in this whole deal more than anyone else including Phil and Melo but that's never brought up in tweets by the media or in articles. We gave up a ton to get Melo but won't get anything back for him with him refusing to waive his NTC for any team that would actually be able to trade anything with value for him. It's not just Phil that knows he's not a fit for what the Knicks are trying to do cause the smart fans that pay attention to this stuff also know he needs to go so we can start our rebuild the right way, and him refusing to waive his NTC is delaying our rebuild. He's hurting our cap for signing free agents with the 50+ we owe him and he's hurting the young kids in learning the system we're trying to teach them cause he refuses to buy in to it and change his game for him to better fit it. The young kids that look up to a guy like Melo see all of this and might think that if Melo won't buy into the system then why should they. The whole thing is a big cluster f**k and could change if he would just accept that this isn't the right place for him. THE FANS GET HURT THE MOST IN ALL OF THIS.
Isn't all of this on the guy that gave him the contract with the NTC, trade kicker and almost max dollars?
CrushAlot wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:The fans get hurt in this whole deal more than anyone else including Phil and Melo but that's never brought up in tweets by the media or in articles. We gave up a ton to get Melo but won't get anything back for him with him refusing to waive his NTC for any team that would actually be able to trade anything with value for him. It's not just Phil that knows he's not a fit for what the Knicks are trying to do cause the smart fans that pay attention to this stuff also know he needs to go so we can start our rebuild the right way, and him refusing to waive his NTC is delaying our rebuild. He's hurting our cap for signing free agents with the 50+ we owe him and he's hurting the young kids in learning the system we're trying to teach them cause he refuses to buy in to it and change his game for him to better fit it. The young kids that look up to a guy like Melo see all of this and might think that if Melo won't buy into the system then why should they. The whole thing is a big cluster f**k and could change if he would just accept that this isn't the right place for him. THE FANS GET HURT THE MOST IN ALL OF THIS.
Isn't all of this on the guy that gave him the contract with the NTC, trade kicker and almost max dollars?
Yeah, if you have blinders on and only look with one eye.
Melo is also the leader of the team, highest paid player and wants to be treated as such. Only plays on one side of the ball, Iso's so much that his home crowd boos him and isn't acting like a leader on or off the court.
CrushAlot wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:The fans get hurt in this whole deal more than anyone else including Phil and Melo but that's never brought up in tweets by the media or in articles. We gave up a ton to get Melo but won't get anything back for him with him refusing to waive his NTC for any team that would actually be able to trade anything with value for him. It's not just Phil that knows he's not a fit for what the Knicks are trying to do cause the smart fans that pay attention to this stuff also know he needs to go so we can start our rebuild the right way, and him refusing to waive his NTC is delaying our rebuild. He's hurting our cap for signing free agents with the 50+ we owe him and he's hurting the young kids in learning the system we're trying to teach them cause he refuses to buy in to it and change his game for him to better fit it. The young kids that look up to a guy like Melo see all of this and might think that if Melo won't buy into the system then why should they. The whole thing is a big cluster f**k and could change if he would just accept that this isn't the right place for him. THE FANS GET HURT THE MOST IN ALL OF THIS.
Isn't all of this on the guy that gave him the contract with the NTC, trade kicker and almost max dollars?
Why is who is at fault so important? Does it change anything? Does firing Phil make it possible we don't do anything stupid again? You do realize that ownership structure is how Melo got here and no owner allows an employee to spend 100mil without his consent. Its a process. Blaming Isiah, Walsh, Grunwald, and now Phil over the years gets us know where. The fact is Dolan has backed off and we are not trading picks is the most significant change since Dolan has owned the team.
martin wrote:CrushAlot wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:The fans get hurt in this whole deal more than anyone else including Phil and Melo but that's never brought up in tweets by the media or in articles. We gave up a ton to get Melo but won't get anything back for him with him refusing to waive his NTC for any team that would actually be able to trade anything with value for him. It's not just Phil that knows he's not a fit for what the Knicks are trying to do cause the smart fans that pay attention to this stuff also know he needs to go so we can start our rebuild the right way, and him refusing to waive his NTC is delaying our rebuild. He's hurting our cap for signing free agents with the 50+ we owe him and he's hurting the young kids in learning the system we're trying to teach them cause he refuses to buy in to it and change his game for him to better fit it. The young kids that look up to a guy like Melo see all of this and might think that if Melo won't buy into the system then why should they. The whole thing is a big cluster f**k and could change if he would just accept that this isn't the right place for him. THE FANS GET HURT THE MOST IN ALL OF THIS.
Isn't all of this on the guy that gave him the contract with the NTC, trade kicker and almost max dollars?
Yeah, if you have blinders on and only look with one eye.
Melo is also the leader of the team, highest paid player and wants to be treated as such. Only plays on one side of the ball, Iso's so much that his home crowd boos him and isn't acting like a leader on or off the court.
If Melo's contract is the problem, who does that fall back on?
martin wrote:CrushAlot wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:The fans get hurt in this whole deal more than anyone else including Phil and Melo but that's never brought up in tweets by the media or in articles. We gave up a ton to get Melo but won't get anything back for him with him refusing to waive his NTC for any team that would actually be able to trade anything with value for him. It's not just Phil that knows he's not a fit for what the Knicks are trying to do cause the smart fans that pay attention to this stuff also know he needs to go so we can start our rebuild the right way, and him refusing to waive his NTC is delaying our rebuild. He's hurting our cap for signing free agents with the 50+ we owe him and he's hurting the young kids in learning the system we're trying to teach them cause he refuses to buy in to it and change his game for him to better fit it. The young kids that look up to a guy like Melo see all of this and might think that if Melo won't buy into the system then why should they. The whole thing is a big cluster f**k and could change if he would just accept that this isn't the right place for him. THE FANS GET HURT THE MOST IN ALL OF THIS.
Isn't all of this on the guy that gave him the contract with the NTC, trade kicker and almost max dollars?
Yeah, if you have blinders on and only look with one eye.
Melo is also the leader of the team, highest paid player and wants to be treated as such. Only plays on one side of the ball, Iso's so much that his home crowd boos him and isn't acting like a leader on or off the court.
That's all well and fine, but for fans to expect him to uproot his life and accept a trade for them is just ... well, instead of saying unreasonable I'll say hopelessly and inevitably a path to disappointment.
Nalod wrote:CrushAlot wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:The fans get hurt in this whole deal more than anyone else including Phil and Melo but that's never brought up in tweets by the media or in articles. We gave up a ton to get Melo but won't get anything back for him with him refusing to waive his NTC for any team that would actually be able to trade anything with value for him. It's not just Phil that knows he's not a fit for what the Knicks are trying to do cause the smart fans that pay attention to this stuff also know he needs to go so we can start our rebuild the right way, and him refusing to waive his NTC is delaying our rebuild. He's hurting our cap for signing free agents with the 50+ we owe him and he's hurting the young kids in learning the system we're trying to teach them cause he refuses to buy in to it and change his game for him to better fit it. The young kids that look up to a guy like Melo see all of this and might think that if Melo won't buy into the system then why should they. The whole thing is a big cluster f**k and could change if he would just accept that this isn't the right place for him. THE FANS GET HURT THE MOST IN ALL OF THIS.
Isn't all of this on the guy that gave him the contract with the NTC, trade kicker and almost max dollars?
Why is who is at fault so important? Does it change anything? Does firing Phil make it possible we don't do anything stupid again? You do realize that ownership structure is how Melo got here and no owner allows an employee to spend 100mil without his consent. Its a process. Blaming Isiah, Walsh, Grunwald, and now Phil over the years gets us know where. The fact is Dolan has backed off and we are not trading picks is the most significant change since Dolan has owned the team.
Did I say Phil should be fired in my post? I was responding to the post blaming Melo for not waiving his NTC, not allowing the rebuild to start right away, not being able to sign free agents etc. Phil negotiated that contract.
