Knicks · Why not add Frank Vogel to the Mix? (page 2)

GustavBahler @ 3/30/2018 3:51 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/14629...


Thought this was a pretty thorough article. The quote about the "700 wins" sums up IMO where Blatt went wrong. Doesnt have to come back to the NBA singing "kumbaya" but he does need a crash course in connecting with NBA players, from the starters, to the role players, and reserves.

No way he can succeed without learning to get NBA players to buy in.

EnySpree @ 3/30/2018 5:58 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Vogel isnt bad, Williams too. Miller is intruiging. Want a coach the players will stand behind.

ABB, anyone but Blatt. Dont want the Knicks to be the team who finds out if he has changed his coaching style, which got him the boot. Smart guy, wasnt smart enough to check his ego at the door as a rookie coach. No more Princeton connection please. We've got plenty, lol.

I think Blatt was emasculated in Cleveland by Lebron. He rejected Blatts style and coaching..... they still went to the finals. So he wasn't a fail. Lebron fired him because he didn't want follow what Blatt suggested. Nobody can coach like that. Tyrone Lou is stressed out right now too... so there's something going on. Lebron has everyone by the balls because of his thirst to win. Very difficult to do your thing.

I remember hearing Blatt and his ego were a big part of the problem. Expected instant respect because he won in europe from his players etc.

You don't think that's a bullshit story? That sounds like bullshit. Blatt is entitled to be confident in what he brings. He has to instill his philosophy. They hired him to do that. He should get instant respect. That's how it works. They went to the finals. He was going to the finals again beforehe was fired at the end of the next season.... with everything going on with Lue now, it should be crystal clear what happened there. Especially seeing Lebron curse Lue out openly every game. Taking over the huddles. It's crazy

It might have been different for him if Lebron didn't come back but no I don't think it was a bs story. Heard it from too many places.

Blatt has a reputation in Europe as being a player's coach. Msg followed him in a mini series when he was in maccabi tel Aviv. All his players praised how he coached. He's a super players coach. He's not a disciplinarian. He plays an open style. From knowing that and his rep around the world, I trust that than since smut article. They were talking him down like that didn't go to the finals.

EnySpree @ 3/30/2018 5:59 PM
GustavBahler wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/14629...


Thought this was a pretty thorough article. The quote about the "700 wins" sums up IMO where Blatt went wrong. Doesnt have to come back to the NBA singing "kumbaya" but he does need a crash course in connecting with NBA players, from the starters, to the role players, and reserves.

No way he can succeed without learning to get NBA players to buy in.

But they went to the finals....

GustavBahler @ 3/30/2018 7:26 PM
EnySpree wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/14629...


Thought this was a pretty thorough article. The quote about the "700 wins" sums up IMO where Blatt went wrong. Doesnt have to come back to the NBA singing "kumbaya" but he does need a crash course in connecting with NBA players, from the starters, to the role players, and reserves.

No way he can succeed without learning to get NBA players to buy in.

But they went to the finals....

LeBron was going to the finals, with or without Blatt. Not the other way around. Blatt had problems connecting with players, or he would still be there.

Paris907 @ 3/30/2018 9:54 PM
EnySpree wrote:
Paris907 wrote:Not long ago, Vogel was a desirable commodity. Knicks have had so much turnover but none more than at the coaching level. I’m not suggesting he necessarily be Coach but if we are looking, shouldn’t we want to look at Fizdale, Vogel, M Jackson Doc among others. If not now, When?

Maybe after the season I guess to avoid the media circus?

We only have 6 games left... you want to fire and hire a coach now? Serves zero purpose. That's a Perry move. Keeping it classy

EnY. Wake up! All I’m saying is that if candidates like Fizdale, Jackson and Doc are being considered, throw Vogel’s hat into the circus.

CrushAlot @ 4/4/2018 8:53 PM
Glad Lee came out and defended Hornacek today. I might be wrong but I can't remember any of the Knick players this year coming out in support of Jeff.
martin @ 4/4/2018 10:31 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Glad Lee came out and defended Hornacek today. I might be wrong but I can't remember any of the Knick players this year coming out in support of Jeff.

You could tell from both Lee and THJr (from twitter and articles) that they were pissed off at Berman

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