Off Topic · OT - Trump & Russia (page 13)
if an "n" word tape gets released, do the red numbers spike? lol.
TheGame wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:TheGame wrote:In breaking news, Trump is now saying he wants to have a second summit with Russia (even though the first one was a huge success). What a moron.
I am looking forward to the day when he is no longer President and all of the bullsh$t he has done really comes out. I don't see this ending well for Trump. I wonder if the other former living presidents are going to ignore him in the future (assuming he does not straight to jail).
The material from the Mueller investigation should be used to try him for treason after his term expired or he has been impeached, then the scumbag won't be able pardon himself.
Good idea. I hope the dems don't impeach. I want him to run again, get defeated, and then get sent to jail.
Lock 'im up!
djsunyc wrote:
Sean Hannity daily spins as did/does Limbaugh both on construction sites and radios everywhere. Cops, firefighters, construction workers and cabbies. Supplying daily propaganda indoctrination. Faux News.
Scary thought to me is if Pence actually took office. He hears voices. God talks to him
Olbrannon wrote:djsunyc wrote:Sean Hannity daily spins as did/does Limbaugh both on construction sites and radios everywhere. Cops, firefighters, construction workers and cabbies. Supplying daily propaganda indoctrination. Faux News.
Scary thought to me is if Pence actually took office. He hears voices. God talks to him
Reminds me Marbury... Does he eat Vaseline?
meloshouldgo wrote:NotInMyHouse wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:NotInMyHouse wrote:Been an interesting thread to read through. I am not really strong politically but this is certainly an interesting time.
I notice this thread is very Anti-Trump but when I speak with most people, I see more division, a bit like the vote. I wonder if the Trump bashing makes the supporters just lay low?
For example, I just went to Amazon, here is the best seller list - top 3.There's nothing to prevent the clinically stupid from supporting and propagating their alternate reality bullshit. I talk to Trump supporters and with neoliberals that have wet dreams about free markets on multiple forums including a couple of facebook forums based on investment groups. Almost all of them literally recite the same garbage without adding a single original thought. If they get bashed they definitely deserve it. If you have anything to add let's hear it.
I don't see the point in speaking with so much hate about an issue that affects everyone. It just keeps the other side from expressing their opinions. In general, that is a part of how Trump won. His supporters were attacked and so laid low. Do what you want, but I see it as being not helpful to your cause, no matter the side. Country needs to come together, not be further divided.
Re having anything to add, I'm not up to speed on all of what has happened. Will try to follow the news more, from a variety of sources of course.
His supporters were attacked? They are doing most of the attacking, not sure where you get your data from. Anything that doesn't fit their alternate reality becomes a left wing conspiracy. If they can win with that level of hate why can't we? Why do we need to entertain their batshit positions and politics when they can't even get any information not being postedon fox and Breitbart? Who the fukk said we need to engage them to win elections? To hale with this centrist moderation hype, I am done with this.
I will eagerly await any thing substantive you come up with, then we can discuss.
Looking at poll numbers, Black support for Trump, has gone from what he won with at 8% in 2016, to 17% in 2017, to now 36% in 2018. Even if these Rasmussen numbers are 6% or 10% off, these numbers are still huge. (Blacks make up 12.6% of population. Wiki) And it is very interesting this happens right after the Omarosa leak and accusation. And it wasn’t that long ago that the border family separations were heavy in the news. (Not making light of this, rather support is growing though despite it.)
Hispanic support was at 29% or so during the election. Recently there was a 10 point spike. Hispanics (and Latin Americans) made up around 17.8% of the population in 2016 (Wiki). https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_e...
Taking these numbers together, not to mention growing approval over last year, we are talking 10’s of millions of new voters for Trump in 2020 (not to mention mid terms later this year.)
Couple the growing support with great economic numbers, tax cuts, denuclearization proceeding in N. Korea, GDP growth at 4.3%, huge labor participation / very low unemployment, illegal immigration down tremendously (very important for voters), etc. and I don’t see Trump going anywhere soon or in 2020. I understand you can argue any of these points, but the poll numbers are up for a reason.
As I said earlier in the thread, this thread does not appear representative of the average feelings of Americans. Hard to say this in a friendly way, but it doesn’t appear that differing opinions are welcome in this thread. Is it really necessary to cuss and speak down at someone to get your point across? I will keep my interactions here to a minimum. I much prefer to talk about basketball and can not wait for pre season to start.
NotInMyHouse wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:NotInMyHouse wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:NotInMyHouse wrote:Been an interesting thread to read through. I am not really strong politically but this is certainly an interesting time.
I notice this thread is very Anti-Trump but when I speak with most people, I see more division, a bit like the vote. I wonder if the Trump bashing makes the supporters just lay low?
For example, I just went to Amazon, here is the best seller list - top 3.There's nothing to prevent the clinically stupid from supporting and propagating their alternate reality bullshit. I talk to Trump supporters and with neoliberals that have wet dreams about free markets on multiple forums including a couple of facebook forums based on investment groups. Almost all of them literally recite the same garbage without adding a single original thought. If they get bashed they definitely deserve it. If you have anything to add let's hear it.
I don't see the point in speaking with so much hate about an issue that affects everyone. It just keeps the other side from expressing their opinions. In general, that is a part of how Trump won. His supporters were attacked and so laid low. Do what you want, but I see it as being not helpful to your cause, no matter the side. Country needs to come together, not be further divided.
Re having anything to add, I'm not up to speed on all of what has happened. Will try to follow the news more, from a variety of sources of course.
His supporters were attacked? They are doing most of the attacking, not sure where you get your data from. Anything that doesn't fit their alternate reality becomes a left wing conspiracy. If they can win with that level of hate why can't we? Why do we need to entertain their batshit positions and politics when they can't even get any information not being postedon fox and Breitbart? Who the fukk said we need to engage them to win elections? To hale with this centrist moderation hype, I am done with this.
I will eagerly await any thing substantive you come up with, then we can discuss.
Looking at poll numbers, Black support for Trump, has gone from what he won with at 8% in 2016, to 17% in 2017, to now 36% in 2018. Even if these Rasmussen numbers are 6% or 10% off, these numbers are still huge. (Blacks make up 12.6% of population. Wiki) And it is very interesting this happens right after the Omarosa leak and accusation. And it wasn’t that long ago that the border family separations were heavy in the news. (Not making light of this, rather support is growing though despite it.)
Hispanic support was at 29% or so during the election. Recently there was a 10 point spike. Hispanics (and Latin Americans) made up around 17.8% of the population in 2016 (Wiki). https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_e...
Taking these numbers together, not to mention growing approval over last year, we are talking 10’s of millions of new voters for Trump in 2020 (not to mention mid terms later this year.)
Couple the growing support with great economic numbers, tax cuts, denuclearization proceeding in N. Korea, GDP growth at 4.3%, huge labor participation / very low unemployment, illegal immigration down tremendously (very important for voters), etc. and I don’t see Trump going anywhere soon or in 2020. I understand you can argue any of these points, but the poll numbers are up for a reason.
As I said earlier in the thread, this thread does not appear representative of the average feelings of Americans. Hard to say this in a friendly way, but it doesn’t appear that differing opinions are welcome in this thread. Is it really necessary to cuss and speak down at someone to get your point across? I will keep my interactions here to a minimum. I much prefer to talk about basketball and can not wait for pre season to start.
Internet blogs are places of interest which brings together close-minded people.
Why one will actively participate in a blog which is hurting his feelings?
There is enough of this in life already so why hurt yourself more.
UK is heavily democratic leaning to the left and mostly AA which is not an aberration as bbal popularity in recent years is much bigger among African Americans.
Asian Americans are coming along but still not in great numbers.
A lot of whites despite the sport altogether and consider it wrestling-like scam.
This is unfortunate and I hope will change.
But the dem-rep and racial divide do not helping it.
Trump is most annoying to many Americans because he makes truth to come up in its ugly face.
Not by him talking the truth or representing the truth but by making people impossible to hide their true nature.
But the loss of honesty in American public live became the biggest loss in American culture.
The loss that threaten the very nature of our culture and everything we achieve.
Trump is very brutal drug to cure this. A lot of deadly side effect but we need this therapy badly. All of us.
NotInMyHouse wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:NotInMyHouse wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:NotInMyHouse wrote:Been an interesting thread to read through. I am not really strong politically but this is certainly an interesting time.
I notice this thread is very Anti-Trump but when I speak with most people, I see more division, a bit like the vote. I wonder if the Trump bashing makes the supporters just lay low?
For example, I just went to Amazon, here is the best seller list - top 3.There's nothing to prevent the clinically stupid from supporting and propagating their alternate reality bullshit. I talk to Trump supporters and with neoliberals that have wet dreams about free markets on multiple forums including a couple of facebook forums based on investment groups. Almost all of them literally recite the same garbage without adding a single original thought. If they get bashed they definitely deserve it. If you have anything to add let's hear it.
I don't see the point in speaking with so much hate about an issue that affects everyone. It just keeps the other side from expressing their opinions. In general, that is a part of how Trump won. His supporters were attacked and so laid low. Do what you want, but I see it as being not helpful to your cause, no matter the side. Country needs to come together, not be further divided.
Re having anything to add, I'm not up to speed on all of what has happened. Will try to follow the news more, from a variety of sources of course.
His supporters were attacked? They are doing most of the attacking, not sure where you get your data from. Anything that doesn't fit their alternate reality becomes a left wing conspiracy. If they can win with that level of hate why can't we? Why do we need to entertain their batshit positions and politics when they can't even get any information not being postedon fox and Breitbart? Who the fukk said we need to engage them to win elections? To hale with this centrist moderation hype, I am done with this.
I will eagerly await any thing substantive you come up with, then we can discuss.
Looking at poll numbers, Black support for Trump, has gone from what he won with at 8% in 2016, to 17% in 2017, to now 36% in 2018. Even if these Rasmussen numbers are 6% or 10% off, these numbers are still huge. (Blacks make up 12.6% of population. Wiki) And it is very interesting this happens right after the Omarosa leak and accusation. And it wasn’t that long ago that the border family separations were heavy in the news. (Not making light of this, rather support is growing though despite it.)
Hispanic support was at 29% or so during the election. Recently there was a 10 point spike. Hispanics (and Latin Americans) made up around 17.8% of the population in 2016 (Wiki). https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_e...
Taking these numbers together, not to mention growing approval over last year, we are talking 10’s of millions of new voters for Trump in 2020 (not to mention mid terms later this year.)
Couple the growing support with great economic numbers, tax cuts, denuclearization proceeding in N. Korea, GDP growth at 4.3%, huge labor participation / very low unemployment, illegal immigration down tremendously (very important for voters), etc. and I don’t see Trump going anywhere soon or in 2020. I understand you can argue any of these points, but the poll numbers are up for a reason.
As I said earlier in the thread, this thread does not appear representative of the average feelings of Americans. Hard to say this in a friendly way, but it doesn’t appear that differing opinions are welcome in this thread. Is it really necessary to cuss and speak down at someone to get your point across? I will keep my interactions here to a minimum. I much prefer to talk about basketball and can not wait for pre season to start.
Look man, I wasn't cussing at you - I was just venting my frustration at people who discuss poilitics without any actual information to back up what they are saying. If you are Trump supporter and want to talk with actual data I will welcome you with open arms.
And yes I see the black support for Trump is at a all tme high and Hispanics seem to be increasing too. No argument on either of those things. That however does not in anyway mean that what he is doing is working or will benefit the country or the people in any way shape or form. Like I said a populist winning a popularity vote suddenly doesn't become "right" about everything. So let's just stay away from poll numbers which rise and fall with the tide.
I don't actually see great economic numbers do you? I see low unemployment and high underemployment. I see low wages and increasing price of goods. I see war being waged on civil liberties, I see a rise in right wing hate being paraded as white nationalism. So excuse me for not sharing your rah rah optimism here. But I am willing to listen - show me what great economic numbers you are seeing. Let's start with that.
NotInMyHouse wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:NotInMyHouse wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:NotInMyHouse wrote:Been an interesting thread to read through. I am not really strong politically but this is certainly an interesting time.
I notice this thread is very Anti-Trump but when I speak with most people, I see more division, a bit like the vote. I wonder if the Trump bashing makes the supporters just lay low?
For example, I just went to Amazon, here is the best seller list - top 3.There's nothing to prevent the clinically stupid from supporting and propagating their alternate reality bullshit. I talk to Trump supporters and with neoliberals that have wet dreams about free markets on multiple forums including a couple of facebook forums based on investment groups. Almost all of them literally recite the same garbage without adding a single original thought. If they get bashed they definitely deserve it. If you have anything to add let's hear it.
I don't see the point in speaking with so much hate about an issue that affects everyone. It just keeps the other side from expressing their opinions. In general, that is a part of how Trump won. His supporters were attacked and so laid low. Do what you want, but I see it as being not helpful to your cause, no matter the side. Country needs to come together, not be further divided.
Re having anything to add, I'm not up to speed on all of what has happened. Will try to follow the news more, from a variety of sources of course.
His supporters were attacked? They are doing most of the attacking, not sure where you get your data from. Anything that doesn't fit their alternate reality becomes a left wing conspiracy. If they can win with that level of hate why can't we? Why do we need to entertain their batshit positions and politics when they can't even get any information not being postedon fox and Breitbart? Who the fukk said we need to engage them to win elections? To hale with this centrist moderation hype, I am done with this.
I will eagerly await any thing substantive you come up with, then we can discuss.
Looking at poll numbers, Black support for Trump, has gone from what he won with at 8% in 2016, to 17% in 2017, to now 36% in 2018. Even if these Rasmussen numbers are 6% or 10% off, these numbers are still huge. (Blacks make up 12.6% of population. Wiki) And it is very interesting this happens right after the Omarosa leak and accusation. And it wasn’t that long ago that the border family separations were heavy in the news. (Not making light of this, rather support is growing though despite it.)
Hispanic support was at 29% or so during the election. Recently there was a 10 point spike. Hispanics (and Latin Americans) made up around 17.8% of the population in 2016 (Wiki). https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_e...
Taking these numbers together, not to mention growing approval over last year, we are talking 10’s of millions of new voters for Trump in 2020 (not to mention mid terms later this year.)
Couple the growing support with great economic numbers, tax cuts, denuclearization proceeding in N. Korea, GDP growth at 4.3%, huge labor participation / very low unemployment, illegal immigration down tremendously (very important for voters), etc. and I don’t see Trump going anywhere soon or in 2020. I understand you can argue any of these points, but the poll numbers are up for a reason.
As I said earlier in the thread, this thread does not appear representative of the average feelings of Americans. Hard to say this in a friendly way, but it doesn’t appear that differing opinions are welcome in this thread. Is it really necessary to cuss and speak down at someone to get your point across? I will keep my interactions here to a minimum. I much prefer to talk about basketball and can not wait for pre season to start.
Who cares about poll numbers? Plenty of awful politicians out there from both parties who are popular.
Who told you that NK was getting rid of its nukes? They are moving ahead with the next generation of intercontinental missiles. Trump got played.
I doubt the children being held in cages, and abused were included in the poll numbers, not to mention their parents. Immigration is at the lowest its been in 20 plus years. More Mexicans are going home than moving here. Why is everyone pissing in their pants over this.?
Truth is if you or anyone you care about plans on using Social Security down the road should understand, the more people paying into the system, the better.
meloshouldgo wrote:NotInMyHouse wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:NotInMyHouse wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:NotInMyHouse wrote:Been an interesting thread to read through. I am not really strong politically but this is certainly an interesting time.
I notice this thread is very Anti-Trump but when I speak with most people, I see more division, a bit like the vote. I wonder if the Trump bashing makes the supporters just lay low?
For example, I just went to Amazon, here is the best seller list - top 3.There's nothing to prevent the clinically stupid from supporting and propagating their alternate reality bullshit. I talk to Trump supporters and with neoliberals that have wet dreams about free markets on multiple forums including a couple of facebook forums based on investment groups. Almost all of them literally recite the same garbage without adding a single original thought. If they get bashed they definitely deserve it. If you have anything to add let's hear it.
I don't see the point in speaking with so much hate about an issue that affects everyone. It just keeps the other side from expressing their opinions. In general, that is a part of how Trump won. His supporters were attacked and so laid low. Do what you want, but I see it as being not helpful to your cause, no matter the side. Country needs to come together, not be further divided.
Re having anything to add, I'm not up to speed on all of what has happened. Will try to follow the news more, from a variety of sources of course.
His supporters were attacked? They are doing most of the attacking, not sure where you get your data from. Anything that doesn't fit their alternate reality becomes a left wing conspiracy. If they can win with that level of hate why can't we? Why do we need to entertain their batshit positions and politics when they can't even get any information not being postedon fox and Breitbart? Who the fukk said we need to engage them to win elections? To hale with this centrist moderation hype, I am done with this.
I will eagerly await any thing substantive you come up with, then we can discuss.
Looking at poll numbers, Black support for Trump, has gone from what he won with at 8% in 2016, to 17% in 2017, to now 36% in 2018. Even if these Rasmussen numbers are 6% or 10% off, these numbers are still huge. (Blacks make up 12.6% of population. Wiki) And it is very interesting this happens right after the Omarosa leak and accusation. And it wasn’t that long ago that the border family separations were heavy in the news. (Not making light of this, rather support is growing though despite it.)
Hispanic support was at 29% or so during the election. Recently there was a 10 point spike. Hispanics (and Latin Americans) made up around 17.8% of the population in 2016 (Wiki). https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_e...
Taking these numbers together, not to mention growing approval over last year, we are talking 10’s of millions of new voters for Trump in 2020 (not to mention mid terms later this year.)
Couple the growing support with great economic numbers, tax cuts, denuclearization proceeding in N. Korea, GDP growth at 4.3%, huge labor participation / very low unemployment, illegal immigration down tremendously (very important for voters), etc. and I don’t see Trump going anywhere soon or in 2020. I understand you can argue any of these points, but the poll numbers are up for a reason.
As I said earlier in the thread, this thread does not appear representative of the average feelings of Americans. Hard to say this in a friendly way, but it doesn’t appear that differing opinions are welcome in this thread. Is it really necessary to cuss and speak down at someone to get your point across? I will keep my interactions here to a minimum. I much prefer to talk about basketball and can not wait for pre season to start.
Look man, I wasn't cussing at you - I was just venting my frustration at people who discuss poilitics without any actual information to back up what they are saying. If you are Trump supporter and want to talk with actual data I will welcome you with open arms.
And yes I see the black support for Trump is at a all tme high and Hispanics seem to be increasing too. No argument on either of those things. That however does not in anyway mean that what he is doing is working or will benefit the country or the people in any way shape or form. Like I said a populist winning a popularity vote suddenly doesn't become "right" about everything. So let's just stay away from poll numbers which rise and fall with the tide.
I don't actually see great economic numbers do you? I see low unemployment and high underemployment. I see low wages and increasing price of goods. I see war being waged on civil liberties, I see a rise in right wing hate being paraded as white nationalism. So excuse me for not sharing your rah rah optimism here. But I am willing to listen - show me what great economic numbers you are seeing. Let's start with that.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-e...
The two-member local elections board is expected to vote on Friday on a proposal to shutter seven of nine polling sites in rural Randolph County, located in southwest Georgia, where roughly 60 percent of the 7,800 residents are black.The board members have said the voting sites violate federal disabilities law because they are not wheelchair accessible.
Clarke said some of the proposed closures are in areas with little or no public transportation, leaving voters miles from voting sites with no realistic way of reaching them.