Knicks · Do we still sign KD if he doesn't play in the Finals and he tore his calf muscle? (page 3)

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Vmart wrote:I think KD could play in the finals if he really wanted to. These guys have Millions in line why risk it for a championship that you already won twice. I guess you can never be to set for life.

Any ways it’s seems greednof money may actually surpass the greed to win.

Can't believe there are so many articles, teammates and fans saying KD can/should play--you have no idea how severe his injury. Stuff like that is what turned Kawhi against the spurs

He should play his team needs him. As for severity everyone has their thresholds for pain. It’s been over a month now and strained muscles. Willis F’ing Reed came out the tunnel for his team.

He shouldn't risk his career and long term health--go ask grant Hill. These same people saying he should return despite having no idea as to the severity of his injury, are the same people who a week ago were saying they're a better team without him

. . . and kevin mchale.

I’m sorry I may be coming off as rude or insensitive but they get paid to play with guaranteed contracts. Injuries are freaky and it can happen anytime. It can happen in college or high school. Truth be told KD is financially set for this lifetime and beyond. As for Thomas and Hill they are well paid and like I said injuries are freaky can happen when ever. I don’t get the bubble wrap treatment especially for a strained muscle that has had well over a month to heal. For every Hill and Isaiah Thomas there the Jordan and The Isiah Thomas of Pistons.

so, if you were in his position: you're saying you would play?

I would play knowing I have a chance at a third championship. Michael Jordan would have played. LeBron would play. Scottie Pippen would have played. I question KD I question his will to want to win. I question him because he isn’t even sitting on the bench. There is a lot more going on with KD and GS than meets the eyes. It looks like his agent is making the call if he plays or not.

I'd rather take the $140mil and 4 more years of my career - if he re-signed with the warriors he'd have 4 more shots at a ring

Then you don’t love the game anymore.

maybe he loves his family and the unborn generations more than basketball. I don't fault you for playing but if I'm being real with myself, I would protect the generations. KD isn't going to be considered greater than LeBron, forget Jordan, so I would only go if I was ready. Also, I am not talking about yanking myself if I'm 85% like Jeremy Lin

This is the finals had ample amount of time to recover from a strained anything. KD isn’t cherishing the championship in my mind. I’m not say anyone of you guys are wrong. There are circumstances when I wouldn’t want a player to play if injured but I don’t think KD’s is a circumstance I agree with. He should have been back with his team and he should have been on the bench with them. The love of the game. KD is worried about money now so winning no longer a must.

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Vmart wrote:I think KD could play in the finals if he really wanted to. These guys have Millions in line why risk it for a championship that you already won twice. I guess you can never be to set for life.

Any ways it’s seems greednof money may actually surpass the greed to win.

Can't believe there are so many articles, teammates and fans saying KD can/should play--you have no idea how severe his injury. Stuff like that is what turned Kawhi against the spurs

He should play his team needs him. As for severity everyone has their thresholds for pain. It’s been over a month now and strained muscles. Willis F’ing Reed came out the tunnel for his team.

He shouldn't risk his career and long term health--go ask grant Hill. These same people saying he should return despite having no idea as to the severity of his injury, are the same people who a week ago were saying they're a better team without him

. . . and kevin mchale.

I’m sorry I may be coming off as rude or insensitive but they get paid to play with guaranteed contracts. Injuries are freaky and it can happen anytime. It can happen in college or high school. Truth be told KD is financially set for this lifetime and beyond. As for Thomas and Hill they are well paid and like I said injuries are freaky can happen when ever. I don’t get the bubble wrap treatment especially for a strained muscle that has had well over a month to heal. For every Hill and Isaiah Thomas there the Jordan and The Isiah Thomas of Pistons.

so, if you were in his position: you're saying you would play?

I would play knowing I have a chance at a third championship. Michael Jordan would have played. LeBron would play. Scottie Pippen would have played. I question KD I question his will to want to win. I question him because he isn’t even sitting on the bench. There is a lot more going on with KD and GS than meets the eyes. It looks like his agent is making the call if he plays or not.

I'd rather take the $140mil and 4 more years of my career - if he re-signed with the warriors he'd have 4 more shots at a ring

Then you don’t love the game anymore.

maybe he loves his family and the unborn generations more than basketball. I don't fault you for playing but if I'm being real with myself, I would protect the generations. KD isn't going to be considered greater than LeBron, forget Jordan, so I would only go if I was ready. Also, I am not talking about yanking myself if I'm 85% like Jeremy Lin

This is the finals had ample amount of time to recover from a strained anything. KD isn’t cherishing the championship in my mind. I’m not say anyone of you guys are wrong. There are circumstances when I wouldn’t want a player to play if injured but I don’t think KD’s is a circumstance I agree with. He should have been back with his team and he should have been on the bench with them. The love of the game. KD is worried about money now so winning no longer a must.

Scalabrine said this morning if KD’s calf isn’t right it could lead to a torn Achilles. He mentioned Cousins going from talking about getting a 210 mil deal versus 5 mil this year.

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Vmart wrote:I think KD could play in the finals if he really wanted to. These guys have Millions in line why risk it for a championship that you already won twice. I guess you can never be to set for life.

Any ways it’s seems greednof money may actually surpass the greed to win.

Can't believe there are so many articles, teammates and fans saying KD can/should play--you have no idea how severe his injury. Stuff like that is what turned Kawhi against the spurs

He should play his team needs him. As for severity everyone has their thresholds for pain. It’s been over a month now and strained muscles. Willis F’ing Reed came out the tunnel for his team.

He shouldn't risk his career and long term health--go ask grant Hill. These same people saying he should return despite having no idea as to the severity of his injury, are the same people who a week ago were saying they're a better team without him

. . . and kevin mchale.

I’m sorry I may be coming off as rude or insensitive but they get paid to play with guaranteed contracts. Injuries are freaky and it can happen anytime. It can happen in college or high school. Truth be told KD is financially set for this lifetime and beyond. As for Thomas and Hill they are well paid and like I said injuries are freaky can happen when ever. I don’t get the bubble wrap treatment especially for a strained muscle that has had well over a month to heal. For every Hill and Isaiah Thomas there the Jordan and The Isiah Thomas of Pistons.

so, if you were in his position: you're saying you would play?

I would play knowing I have a chance at a third championship. Michael Jordan would have played. LeBron would play. Scottie Pippen would have played. I question KD I question his will to want to win. I question him because he isn’t even sitting on the bench. There is a lot more going on with KD and GS than meets the eyes. It looks like his agent is making the call if he plays or not.

I'd rather take the $140mil and 4 more years of my career - if he re-signed with the warriors he'd have 4 more shots at a ring

Then you don’t love the game anymore.

maybe he loves his family and the unborn generations more than basketball. I don't fault you for playing but if I'm being real with myself, I would protect the generations. KD isn't going to be considered greater than LeBron, forget Jordan, so I would only go if I was ready. Also, I am not talking about yanking myself if I'm 85% like Jeremy Lin

This is the finals had ample amount of time to recover from a strained anything. KD isn’t cherishing the championship in my mind. I’m not say anyone of you guys are wrong. There are circumstances when I wouldn’t want a player to play if injured but I don’t think KD’s is a circumstance I agree with. He should have been back with his team and he should have been on the bench with them. The love of the game. KD is worried about money now so winning no longer a must.

Well, in he came. And there he went. I guess he just not as tough as Vmart.

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SupremeCommander wrote:

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smackeddog wrote:

Vmart wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:

Marv wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Vmart wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Vmart wrote:I think KD could play in the finals if he really wanted to. These guys have Millions in line why risk it for a championship that you already won twice. I guess you can never be to set for life.

Any ways it’s seems greednof money may actually surpass the greed to win.

Can't believe there are so many articles, teammates and fans saying KD can/should play--you have no idea how severe his injury. Stuff like that is what turned Kawhi against the spurs

He should play his team needs him. As for severity everyone has their thresholds for pain. It’s been over a month now and strained muscles. Willis F’ing Reed came out the tunnel for his team.

He shouldn't risk his career and long term health--go ask grant Hill. These same people saying he should return despite having no idea as to the severity of his injury, are the same people who a week ago were saying they're a better team without him

. . . and kevin mchale.

I’m sorry I may be coming off as rude or insensitive but they get paid to play with guaranteed contracts. Injuries are freaky and it can happen anytime. It can happen in college or high school. Truth be told KD is financially set for this lifetime and beyond. As for Thomas and Hill they are well paid and like I said injuries are freaky can happen when ever. I don’t get the bubble wrap treatment especially for a strained muscle that has had well over a month to heal. For every Hill and Isaiah Thomas there the Jordan and The Isiah Thomas of Pistons.

so, if you were in his position: you're saying you would play?

I would play knowing I have a chance at a third championship. Michael Jordan would have played. LeBron would play. Scottie Pippen would have played. I question KD I question his will to want to win. I question him because he isn’t even sitting on the bench. There is a lot more going on with KD and GS than meets the eyes. It looks like his agent is making the call if he plays or not.

I'd rather take the $140mil and 4 more years of my career - if he re-signed with the warriors he'd have 4 more shots at a ring

Then you don’t love the game anymore.

maybe he loves his family and the unborn generations more than basketball. I don't fault you for playing but if I'm being real with myself, I would protect the generations. KD isn't going to be considered greater than LeBron, forget Jordan, so I would only go if I was ready. Also, I am not talking about yanking myself if I'm 85% like Jeremy Lin

This is the finals had ample amount of time to recover from a strained anything. KD isn’t cherishing the championship in my mind. I’m not say anyone of you guys are wrong. There are circumstances when I wouldn’t want a player to play if injured but I don’t think KD’s is a circumstance I agree with. He should have been back with his team and he should have been on the bench with them. The love of the game. KD is worried about money now so winning no longer a must.

Well, in he came. And there he went. I guess he just not as tough as Vmart.

Like I told you injuries are freaky and they could happen whenever. At least now you know he is damaged goods. Will fit right in with the Knicks.

Vmart wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Vmart wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Vmart wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Vmart wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:

Marv wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Vmart wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Vmart wrote:I think KD could play in the finals if he really wanted to. These guys have Millions in line why risk it for a championship that you already won twice. I guess you can never be to set for life.

Any ways it’s seems greednof money may actually surpass the greed to win.

Can't believe there are so many articles, teammates and fans saying KD can/should play--you have no idea how severe his injury. Stuff like that is what turned Kawhi against the spurs

He should play his team needs him. As for severity everyone has their thresholds for pain. It’s been over a month now and strained muscles. Willis F’ing Reed came out the tunnel for his team.

He shouldn't risk his career and long term health--go ask grant Hill. These same people saying he should return despite having no idea as to the severity of his injury, are the same people who a week ago were saying they're a better team without him

. . . and kevin mchale.

I’m sorry I may be coming off as rude or insensitive but they get paid to play with guaranteed contracts. Injuries are freaky and it can happen anytime. It can happen in college or high school. Truth be told KD is financially set for this lifetime and beyond. As for Thomas and Hill they are well paid and like I said injuries are freaky can happen when ever. I don’t get the bubble wrap treatment especially for a strained muscle that has had well over a month to heal. For every Hill and Isaiah Thomas there the Jordan and The Isiah Thomas of Pistons.

so, if you were in his position: you're saying you would play?

I would play knowing I have a chance at a third championship. Michael Jordan would have played. LeBron would play. Scottie Pippen would have played. I question KD I question his will to want to win. I question him because he isn’t even sitting on the bench. There is a lot more going on with KD and GS than meets the eyes. It looks like his agent is making the call if he plays or not.

I'd rather take the $140mil and 4 more years of my career - if he re-signed with the warriors he'd have 4 more shots at a ring

Then you don’t love the game anymore.

maybe he loves his family and the unborn generations more than basketball. I don't fault you for playing but if I'm being real with myself, I would protect the generations. KD isn't going to be considered greater than LeBron, forget Jordan, so I would only go if I was ready. Also, I am not talking about yanking myself if I'm 85% like Jeremy Lin

This is the finals had ample amount of time to recover from a strained anything. KD isn’t cherishing the championship in my mind. I’m not say anyone of you guys are wrong. There are circumstances when I wouldn’t want a player to play if injured but I don’t think KD’s is a circumstance I agree with. He should have been back with his team and he should have been on the bench with them. The love of the game. KD is worried about money now so winning no longer a must.

Well, in he came. And there he went. I guess he just not as tough as Vmart.

Like I told you injuries are freaky and they could happen whenever. At least now you know he is damaged goods. Will fit right in with the Knicks.

You got all the angles covered.

Tonight it looks like a torn achilles. The FA dream is over. Its Leonard or bust now

definitely was holding his achilles

Vmart wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Vmart wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Vmart wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Vmart wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:

Marv wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Vmart wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Vmart wrote:I think KD could play in the finals if he really wanted to. These guys have Millions in line why risk it for a championship that you already won twice. I guess you can never be to set for life.

Any ways it’s seems greednof money may actually surpass the greed to win.

Can't believe there are so many articles, teammates and fans saying KD can/should play--you have no idea how severe his injury. Stuff like that is what turned Kawhi against the spurs

He should play his team needs him. As for severity everyone has their thresholds for pain. It’s been over a month now and strained muscles. Willis F’ing Reed came out the tunnel for his team.

He shouldn't risk his career and long term health--go ask grant Hill. These same people saying he should return despite having no idea as to the severity of his injury, are the same people who a week ago were saying they're a better team without him

. . . and kevin mchale.

I’m sorry I may be coming off as rude or insensitive but they get paid to play with guaranteed contracts. Injuries are freaky and it can happen anytime. It can happen in college or high school. Truth be told KD is financially set for this lifetime and beyond. As for Thomas and Hill they are well paid and like I said injuries are freaky can happen when ever. I don’t get the bubble wrap treatment especially for a strained muscle that has had well over a month to heal. For every Hill and Isaiah Thomas there the Jordan and The Isiah Thomas of Pistons.

so, if you were in his position: you're saying you would play?

I would play knowing I have a chance at a third championship. Michael Jordan would have played. LeBron would play. Scottie Pippen would have played. I question KD I question his will to want to win. I question him because he isn’t even sitting on the bench. There is a lot more going on with KD and GS than meets the eyes. It looks like his agent is making the call if he plays or not.

I'd rather take the $140mil and 4 more years of my career - if he re-signed with the warriors he'd have 4 more shots at a ring

Then you don’t love the game anymore.

maybe he loves his family and the unborn generations more than basketball. I don't fault you for playing but if I'm being real with myself, I would protect the generations. KD isn't going to be considered greater than LeBron, forget Jordan, so I would only go if I was ready. Also, I am not talking about yanking myself if I'm 85% like Jeremy Lin

This is the finals had ample amount of time to recover from a strained anything. KD isn’t cherishing the championship in my mind. I’m not say anyone of you guys are wrong. There are circumstances when I wouldn’t want a player to play if injured but I don’t think KD’s is a circumstance I agree with. He should have been back with his team and he should have been on the bench with them. The love of the game. KD is worried about money now so winning no longer a must.

Well, in he came. And there he went. I guess he just not as tough as Vmart.

Like I told you injuries are freaky and they could happen whenever. At least now you know he is damaged goods. Will fit right in with the Knicks.

Omg dude, are you even human? Wtf

dwiley20 wrote:definitely was holding his achilles

Yep, he was. Then they say they are giving him his space, which is very ominous.

It sucks for him so much. He lives for this moment. He is in such a crucial point in his career and life. This hero act could impact the rest of his career.

But who cares about that? He is paid millions to become the robot scoring machine he should be, playing no matter his health because guys comfortably sitting in front of their computers know exactly what is happening and say they can totally play, like they would because it’s so easy to talk 💩 like that.

Jskinny with the jinx

Ah, c'mon BigDaddyG... I'm truly sad for him. I give him a lot of credit for trying to play but he clearly wasn't ready to come back. I was apprehensive before the injury just b/c of his age entering a 3 or 4 year max deal. That and the Knicks history of always getting players either injured or past their prime... He's a great, great player and I really hope he recovers and I hope the Warriors show loyalty and offer him the max. He may need a year to fully recover if he injured anything beyond his calf... let's hope not!

jskinny35 wrote:Ah, c'mon BigDaddyG... I'm truly sad for him. I give him a lot of credit for trying to play but he clearly wasn't ready to come back. I was apprehensive before the injury just b/c of his age entering a 3 or 4 year max deal. That and the Knicks history of always getting players either injured or past their prime... He's a great, great player and I really hope he recovers and I hope the Warriors show loyalty and offer him the max. He may need a year to fully recover if he injured anything beyond his calf... let's hope not!

What do you think about Jimmy Butler?

Great call vmart

jskinny35 wrote:Ah, c'mon BigDaddyG... I'm truly sad for him. I give him a lot of credit for trying to play but he clearly wasn't ready to come back. I was apprehensive before the injury just b/c of his age entering a 3 or 4 year max deal. That and the Knicks history of always getting players either injured or past their prime... He's a great, great player and I really hope he recovers and I hope the Warriors show loyalty and offer him the max. He may need a year to fully recover if he injured anything beyond his calf... let's hope not!

Can the Warriors resign both KD and Thompson? This offseason will be intriguing still.

BigDaddyG - Would love Jimmy Butler if this was 2015 - now too old and he wouldn't have the patience with our young guys

Knicksfan - No, they don't have the money for both. Klay would have to sign elsewhere

jskinny35 wrote:BigDaddyG - Would love Jimmy Butler if this was 2015 - now too old and he wouldn't have the patience with our young guys

Knicksfan - No, they don't have the money for both. Klay would have to sign elsewhere

Even if KD simply picks up the last year of his contract instead of opting for free agency?

No KD? No Kwahi? Then no FA's for me....Guys like Jimmy Butler and or Kemba will only push us further into NBA Oblivion.

He shouldnt ask for the Max....It shouldnt be about money for Durant...so he needs to understand that

Warriors better offer KD the max, they screwed him big time

Uptown wrote:No KD? No Kwahi? Then no FA's for me....Guys like Jimmy Butler and or Kemba will only push us further into NBA Oblivion.

This.

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Vmart wrote:

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Vmart wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Vmart wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Vmart wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:

Marv wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Vmart wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Vmart wrote:I think KD could play in the finals if he really wanted to. These guys have Millions in line why risk it for a championship that you already won twice. I guess you can never be to set for life.

Any ways it’s seems greednof money may actually surpass the greed to win.

Can't believe there are so many articles, teammates and fans saying KD can/should play--you have no idea how severe his injury. Stuff like that is what turned Kawhi against the spurs

He should play his team needs him. As for severity everyone has their thresholds for pain. It’s been over a month now and strained muscles. Willis F’ing Reed came out the tunnel for his team.

He shouldn't risk his career and long term health--go ask grant Hill. These same people saying he should return despite having no idea as to the severity of his injury, are the same people who a week ago were saying they're a better team without him

. . . and kevin mchale.

I’m sorry I may be coming off as rude or insensitive but they get paid to play with guaranteed contracts. Injuries are freaky and it can happen anytime. It can happen in college or high school. Truth be told KD is financially set for this lifetime and beyond. As for Thomas and Hill they are well paid and like I said injuries are freaky can happen when ever. I don’t get the bubble wrap treatment especially for a strained muscle that has had well over a month to heal. For every Hill and Isaiah Thomas there the Jordan and The Isiah Thomas of Pistons.

so, if you were in his position: you're saying you would play?

I would play knowing I have a chance at a third championship. Michael Jordan would have played. LeBron would play. Scottie Pippen would have played. I question KD I question his will to want to win. I question him because he isn’t even sitting on the bench. There is a lot more going on with KD and GS than meets the eyes. It looks like his agent is making the call if he plays or not.

I'd rather take the $140mil and 4 more years of my career - if he re-signed with the warriors he'd have 4 more shots at a ring

Then you don’t love the game anymore.

maybe he loves his family and the unborn generations more than basketball. I don't fault you for playing but if I'm being real with myself, I would protect the generations. KD isn't going to be considered greater than LeBron, forget Jordan, so I would only go if I was ready. Also, I am not talking about yanking myself if I'm 85% like Jeremy Lin

This is the finals had ample amount of time to recover from a strained anything. KD isn’t cherishing the championship in my mind. I’m not say anyone of you guys are wrong. There are circumstances when I wouldn’t want a player to play if injured but I don’t think KD’s is a circumstance I agree with. He should have been back with his team and he should have been on the bench with them. The love of the game. KD is worried about money now so winning no longer a must.

Well, in he came. And there he went. I guess he just not as tough as Vmart.

Like I told you injuries are freaky and they could happen whenever. At least now you know he is damaged goods. Will fit right in with the Knicks.

Omg dude, are you even human? Wtf

Durant needed to play. It was for the psychological effects. This was Willis Reed like performance by KD.