I mean come on we lost to a awful Celtic and San Antonio team both teams with our talent should destroy....
The sad part is why weren’t we prepared for our opponent???? Why we’re we a dud for the second half of our home opener... why the F U C K is DSjr getting minutes over frank ... this team should be 2-1.
Fizdale sucks
How the F U C K do you lose to a terrible Celtics team they have no talent
He has shown that he has no clue how to run a team. There is no plan. No system, no identity. Its all USED CAR SALESMAN speak. Trying to be cool like those glasses he wears.
He has nothing. Memphis was right.
Fizzledale needs to go.
Easy - no gameplan, no offense and no defense. But yeah he plays Dennis Smith Dipshit ahead of Frank so Crushslot and Uptown and twitter supports him. What else do you need to know?
Yeah wtf why is fiba frank not getting off the bench but DSJR is ??!! WTF ! Is the coach stupid? There is a reason the zen master picked frank over dsjr
yup. tanking again this year for top pick
fitzfarm wrote:Yeah wtf why is fiba frank not getting off the bench but DSJR is ??!! WTF ! Is the coach stupid? There is a reason the zen master picked frank over dsjr
Fizz is doubling DSJ's trade value with every game...
to zero.
I said it last year.
Hornachek was a better coach than Fizdale.
Defense looks better.
Don't like him as a coach so far...but he probably deserves to keep his job the rest of the season, unless we start hearing about him losing player support.
On the other hand, I was about to say that with so many new players, they have to learn his offensive system, before I realized there is no identifiable "system" to learn, so its possible that what we see now from the Knicks, is pretty much what we're going to look like, latter.
CleaverGreene wrote:Don't like him as a coach so far...but he probably deserves to keep his job the rest of the season, unless we start hearing about him losing player support.On the other hand, I was about to say that with so many new players, they have to learn his offensive system, before I realized there is no identifiable "system" to learn, so its possible that what we see now from the Knicks, is pretty much what we're going to look like, latter.
Some of us were saying this since the middle of last season. Why is no system being established even at the baby step level? Something/anything.
Okay so last season was a tankfest joke. Haha. Ok.
But what was this preseason about? Still no system AND the whole "win your role" bit was just another throw away line. Still no system.
Three ever more humiliating losses into the season we're wondering about not even a system but something a s humble as some plays being called for the players on the court.
NADA.
AND. AND. Ntilikina is benched *because of HIS offense!!!!!!*
Pinch me.
fitzfarm wrote:How the F U C K do you lose to a terrible Celtics team they have no talent
Boston has more talent than we do
fwk00 wrote:CleaverGreene wrote:Don't like him as a coach so far...but he probably deserves to keep his job the rest of the season, unless we start hearing about him losing player support.On the other hand, I was about to say that with so many new players, they have to learn his offensive system, before I realized there is no identifiable "system" to learn, so its possible that what we see now from the Knicks, is pretty much what we're going to look like, latter.
Some of us were saying this since the middle of last season. Why is no system being established even at the baby step level? Something/anything.
Okay so last season was a tankfest joke. Haha. Ok.
But what was this preseason about? Still no system AND the whole "win your role" bit was just another throw away line. Still no system.
Three ever more humiliating losses into the season we're wondering about not even a system but something a s humble as some plays being called for the players on the court.
NADA.
AND. AND. Ntilikina is benched *because of HIS offense!!!!!!*
Pinch me.
When you have no starting quality PG, it's very hard for a coach to install and run a system- probably why nearly all of our coaches have looked like they have no system for the past few years. Honestly who was the last coach we had that managed to install a system and who was their PG? Probably D'Antoni with Felton?
premature.
I like Fizdale, but I am starting to join the fire fizdale crowd.
I'm no professional, but it does seem like we don't have a good system to put our guys in positions to succeed. I know he is trying to get ball movement, but how hard is it to call a time out, tell guys - next possession, everyone touch the ball at least once. Pass, move, cut, whatever.
smackeddog wrote:fwk00 wrote:CleaverGreene wrote:Don't like him as a coach so far...but he probably deserves to keep his job the rest of the season, unless we start hearing about him losing player support.On the other hand, I was about to say that with so many new players, they have to learn his offensive system, before I realized there is no identifiable "system" to learn, so its possible that what we see now from the Knicks, is pretty much what we're going to look like, latter.
Some of us were saying this since the middle of last season. Why is no system being established even at the baby step level? Something/anything.
Okay so last season was a tankfest joke. Haha. Ok.
But what was this preseason about? Still no system AND the whole "win your role" bit was just another throw away line. Still no system.
Three ever more humiliating losses into the season we're wondering about not even a system but something a s humble as some plays being called for the players on the court.
NADA.
AND. AND. Ntilikina is benched *because of HIS offense!!!!!!*
Pinch me.
When you have no starting quality PG, it's very hard for a coach to install and run a system- probably why nearly all of our coaches have looked like they have no system for the past few years. Honestly who was the last coach we had that managed to install a system and who was their PG? Probably D'Antoni with Felton?
With all due respect, that’s a lame excuse. On the PG front, Peyton is a capable starter. DSJr and Frank should be at least capable backups. Even Barrett has proved to be capable for stretches and supposedly Fiz wanted Randle to play point-forward.
Seeing a system in place but players struggling to implement it is one thing. A very different one is seeing players run out of control, improvise on the fly and iso their way to a miss and a possible offensive rebound to actually get a score.
That’s not a sustainable system. Our record will keep showing that.
Fiz won’t be fired anytime soon unless we are down double digits in losses while yet looking for our first win. Only a ridiculously bad losing streak would get him fired before the 40 game mark.
He is who we have for the moment and this might be the way we will play for a while.
At least we own our pick.
Like i said ive supported Fizdale and feel he needs time especially with so many new players. However he has no system to run or even set plays. If you are a head coach you need some type of structure otherwise its like the inmates running the asylym and you wont win. The funny thing is despite that we still should be 2-1..we have talent enough to makes things fun. But im starting to question if Fiz is really a head coach or not. There is no doubt that he gets players to not quit we have seen that but thats only a small part of being a head coach. When you let guys just do ISO and chuck threes all games that isnt structure. There needs to be at least ball movement. Like i said we have talent and depth but so far Fiz has failed to pull in the reigns and establish any type of system.
So when does the fire Fizdale chant start at the garden?
smackeddog wrote:fwk00 wrote:CleaverGreene wrote:Don't like him as a coach so far...but he probably deserves to keep his job the rest of the season, unless we start hearing about him losing player support.On the other hand, I was about to say that with so many new players, they have to learn his offensive system, before I realized there is no identifiable "system" to learn, so its possible that what we see now from the Knicks, is pretty much what we're going to look like, latter.
Some of us were saying this since the middle of last season. Why is no system being established even at the baby step level? Something/anything.
Okay so last season was a tankfest joke. Haha. Ok.
But what was this preseason about? Still no system AND the whole "win your role" bit was just another throw away line. Still no system.
Three ever more humiliating losses into the season we're wondering about not even a system but something a s humble as some plays being called for the players on the court.
NADA.
AND. AND. Ntilikina is benched *because of HIS offense!!!!!!*
Pinch me.
When you have no starting quality PG, it's very hard for a coach to install and run a system- probably why nearly all of our coaches have looked like they have no system for the past few years. Honestly who was the last coach we had that managed to install a system and who was their PG? Probably D'Antoni with Felton?
Fair point. Fire the FO too. They had 100 million and KP as a trade chip and gave us this lineup
NYKBocker wrote:So when does the fire Fizdale chant start at the garden?
if we lose to the Kings