Knicks · Anyone think we will regret passing on Avidja for Toppin? (page 1)
BRIGGS@ 11/21/2020 1:42 PM
Thought he was a top 3 player with different compliments for Mitch Robinson. A guy who could handle the rock shoot it from deep etc. I like Toppin but not with Robinson— I like Toppin in an open style as a 5 man. We’re not going to do that—- and unless we move Robinson( which I would not) Ithink we took the wrong guy
Philc1@ 11/21/2020 1:45 PM
I like Deni but he’s not as good a shooter as Obi.
smackeddog@ 11/21/2020 1:46 PM
Nope, I'm not convinced he'll be as good as people say he is- could end up not being able to hit FTs, shoot 3s, or be athletic enough. He's no sure fire hit
Nalod@ 11/21/2020 2:00 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Thought he was a top 3 player with different compliments for Mitch Robinson. A guy who could handle the rock shoot it from deep etc. I like Toppin but not with Robinson— I like Toppin in an open style as a 5 man. We’re not going to do that—- and unless we move Robinson( which I would not) Ithink we took the wrong guy
Stop it already. You got cold feet before the draft and your just a fan like the rest of us. Of course your second guessing. Fans get to do this AFTeR THE FACT. Your not even a week in or a game played. You got him pigeon holder as Amare 2.0. He is a better shooter than Amare was!!!! For all we know we trade Mitch tomorrow!!!!
GustavBahler@ 11/21/2020 2:06 PM
Briggs with another Harlequin Bromance
At least lets wait for some 4 second youtube clips before calling Toppin a bust.
Jmpasq@ 11/21/2020 6:55 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Thought he was a top 3 player with different compliments for Mitch Robinson. A guy who could handle the rock shoot it from deep etc. I like Toppin but not with Robinson— I like Toppin in an open style as a 5 man. We’re not going to do that—- and unless we move Robinson( which I would not) Ithink we took the wrong guy
There were at least 4 guys I would of rather had than Toppin
BigDaddyG@ 11/21/2020 7:00 PM
Maybe. Personally, I wanted Deni. Just got to put our trust in Walt.
ekstarks94@ 11/21/2020 7:08 PM
I am not sold on Deni....still have visions Dragan Bender....
We have the right coach to build Obi’s defense...his offense will hit the ground running
Chandler@ 11/21/2020 7:09 PM
not an expert on projecting talent but when i saw clips i saw a less athletic Hezonja with a less good jumper and has trouble with FTs
i am glad we passed.
KnickDanger@ 11/21/2020 7:13 PM
We'll see but the hype about Deni seemed to be well...hype.
NYKBocker@ 11/21/2020 8:05 PM
He didn't impress me with his highlights. Seems to be riding the luka train
Knixkik@ 11/21/2020 9:37 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Thought he was a top 3 player with different compliments for Mitch Robinson. A guy who could handle the rock shoot it from deep etc. I like Toppin but not with Robinson— I like Toppin in an open style as a 5 man. We’re not going to do that—- and unless we move Robinson( which I would not) Ithink we took the wrong guy
Toppin is a much better shooter than Deni.
Panos@ 11/21/2020 9:46 PM
Chandler wrote:not an expert on projecting talent but when i saw clips i saw a less athletic Hezonja with a less good jumper and has trouble with FTs
i am glad we passed.
Just what i was going to say. There's one of these "athletic" Euro busts in every draft.
ekstarks94@ 11/22/2020 8:59 AM
Panos wrote:
Chandler wrote:not an expert on projecting talent but when i saw clips i saw a less athletic Hezonja with a less good jumper and has trouble with FTs
i am glad we passed.
Just what i was going to say. There's one of these "athletic" Euro busts in every draft.
Bender was the last one I remembe..he was supposed to be the next KP with a handle..
Chandler@ 11/22/2020 10:39 AM
Bender's game is different, it seems to me
take a look at the so-called Deni highlights. With a little AI film editing those are the same types of plays Mario had pre-draft. Didn't translate to NBA
And Mario could at least hit FTs
Deep inside i know Scott Perry wanted to draft Deni to show everyone how smart he is/was....
fools gold
Knicksfan@ 11/22/2020 10:47 AM
This is pointless because the answer will probably come so many years into the future and by then we will have more things to worry about.
Truth is that every player in the draft has promise, but what we got in Toppin hardly happens:
-Top talent the team was ready to make moves for falls to your pick. -Hometown kid who grew up your team’s fan is selected and wanted. -Player that brings flexibility with his game as he is a threat inside and also outside. -Great story with work ethic and character, usually recipe for a good talent to turn into something special.
I really think we were fortunate to get Toppin and will count on him as one of our main future stars with RJ and possibly our first pick in next year’s draft.
Ilovestarks@ 11/22/2020 11:21 AM
I'm happy with Obi, hoping he will play great for us Looking back will look like a miss many times,last few drafts we skipped great players such as Donovan and Bam in 2017 , Bridges and SGA in 2018 ...
BRIGGS@ 11/22/2020 11:22 AM
Knicksfan wrote:This is pointless because the answer will probably come so many years into the future and by then we will have more things to worry about.
Truth is that every player in the draft has promise, but what we got in Toppin hardly happens:
-Top talent the team was ready to make moves for falls to your pick. -Hometown kid who grew up your team’s fan is selected and wanted. -Player that brings flexibility with his game as he is a threat inside and also outside. -Great story with work ethic and character, usually recipe for a good talent to turn into something special.
I really think we were fortunate to get Toppin and will count on him as one of our main future stars with RJ and possibly our first pick in next year’s draft.
I think Toppin at the 5 position would make him a better player. Playing two 7 footers is ok by me— but two lob threats will be ez to guard.
Philc1@ 11/22/2020 1:04 PM
Panos wrote:
Chandler wrote:not an expert on projecting talent but when i saw clips i saw a less athletic Hezonja with a less good jumper and has trouble with FTs
i am glad we passed.
Just what i was going to say. There's one of these "athletic" Euro busts in every draft.
I like Avdija but his ceiling is a slightly better Gallinari
He won't be a Eurobust. A Eurobust is Pavel Podkolzin or Andrea Bargnani - those guys I could see from a mile away were going to bust
TheGame@ 11/22/2020 11:59 PM
I liked Deni too but it is hard to tell with Euro players. If it were me, I would have taken Deni, Vassell, or Haliburton instead of Obi. Obi’s defense worries me greatly. He just looked too bad to ever believe he is going to be a competent defender. I hope I am wrong about that but I guess time will tell.
DJMUSIC@ 11/23/2020 12:20 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Thought he was a top 3 player with different compliments for Mitch Robinson. A guy who could handle the rock shoot it from deep etc. I like Toppin but not with Robinson— I like Toppin in an open style as a 5 man. We’re not going to do that—- and unless we move Robinson( which I would not) Ithink we took the wrong guy
hear ya
respectively disagree..
This draft unless NYK had #1, 2 OR #3? was not going to get a person that is NEXT thing by himself to change fortunes of our loved NY Knickerbockers
This gent wanted to be in NY, & has talent.
There is no one on current team , folks coming to Garden to "pay" to come in here to see a young team. Even with Toppin has a chance? I like pick
But not yet SOLD on RJ neither & Kevin Knox. I like both youth
However depth of team and places they need to go & learn under Thibodeau system I'm not too sure yet.
Austin Rivers ? a PG needed, I'm seeing guys passing through other teams whom may be tough like Rivers, but a game changer PG ? lead or backup? Roster got a long way to go
