Knicks · Finally! We got hoops!!!! Friday night vs. the Pistons 7pm/MSG (page 3)

knicks1248 wrote:

wargames wrote:I doubt they put Frank on Garbage time.

THIBS specifically stated minutes will go to who earned it, not by paycheck, not by draft status, not by tenure, not by experiment.

So that's a good thing

Its naive also. Players and coaches saying all the right things but then dealing with reality.
With is that?? Knicks and agents for both Frank and Dennis are talking extension. IM not here to say what any outcome is but there is a deadline. For all we know (that means we don’t) Leon (franks ex agent) and Perry might love the guy and tell Thibs from day one “work him in for the long term”. Or “showcase him because SAC is looking at him for Heild”. Neither would surprise me.
Fans hate Dennis. Yet here he is after an awful season competing for the starting job. Think his agent is not promoting how beneficial as 3 year 36mil contract would be so good for him with that stability? Or maybe Dennis is thinking “Fuck that, I’ll bet on myself and hit RFA and let the market play out”. Knicks might be down for either. That they used to do that is irrelevant cuz Leon is in charge.
I can go on and on.
This does not mean any player who is kicking ass won’t be rewarded. I agree that Thibs or any coach can’t mess with his locker room.
Players gonna all say the same shit to media as will the coaches. We should not feel betrayed when it does not work out as pure. Melo and PHil hoodwinked us in their own ways. Maybe they had good intentions. Maybe not.

KnickDanger wrote:

Nalod wrote:Preseason gams is part of “earning it”. Expect to see rooks so they don’t shit the bed in the regular season.
They had no post season NCAA or summer league to acclimate.
After one week nothing is earned yet.
I would not read a think into who he plays. Some will sit, and the next games others will as well. THere are but so many minutes and players/combo’s.
IT should be ugly with lots of turnovers. I never watch preseason but I’m bored.

Reporters are not on the knick campus so there is little to report. Don’t read into anything he says or does not.

I want to see frank be ball hog and not pass the rock. Hit some jumpers, flex and yell at empty seats as if Phil, MIlls, Fiz, Hornacek and 1248 are there. LIke Spree did when he returned to the Garden in a Wolves uni! When Thibs take him out for not passing the ball he should curse him out and demand a trade to Houston.

I want to see Mitch take 3 point shots. Hit one, point to heaven and thank his agent post game.
I want to see Randle just bull his way in the paint, kick it out to smith who new arc is nothing but net.
I want to see iggy play and rebound.
I want to see Knox hit some threes, then take the ball to the rim strong.
I want to see Dennis be Baron Davis. Thats who is in there. Also wear KP’s number.
I want to see Quickly quickly be the second best pick.
And I want to see OBI be a revelation where he looks like Amare but after each play the heavens illuminate his presence and the angels sing.

Are those realistic expectations?

Like all of this but because I am a petty curmudgeon I would especially like to see DSJ thrive while taking KP's number.

At the same time DSJ is in mid-prime Starksian thrive, I want to see Cuban trade KP to OKC in a salary dump.

Panos wrote:Why is RJ a lock to start? We know Randle is starting. Why not start shooters at the 2 & 3 since our PG and PF can't shoot?
Then bring RJ in with Obi off the bench?

He was a starter last season. Did we get someone better at his position? If it's not broken no reason to try to fix it

ramtour420 wrote:

Panos wrote:Why is RJ a lock to start? We know Randle is starting. Why not start shooters at the 2 & 3 since our PG and PF can't shoot?
Then bring RJ in with Obi off the bench?

He was a starter last season. Did we get someone better at his position? If it's not broken no reason to try to fix it

It ain't broke?! How many games do they have to lose before it's broke?!
I just gave you a reason. To have 2 shooters in the line up. Then he can come in with Obi who's a shooter.

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smackeddog wrote:Can't remember what it feels like to watch a Knicks game- is it good?

You tell me.

I mean, going back to some Knick greats:
* Charles Oakley was good for 1 Hail Mary pass that sailed out into the stands every game.

* And Ewing was good for 1 would-be rebound that would bounce of his stone hands out of bounds.

technomaster wrote:Why is there so much hate on Randle's spins - they only accounted for maybe 1 turnover/game.

I mean, going back to some Knick greats:
* Charles Oakley was good for 1 Hail Mary pass that sailed out into the stands every game.

* And Ewing was good for 1 would-be rebound that would bounce of his stone hands out of bounds.

Timing has a lot to do with it. You know that Randle spin is coming at crucial spot in the game.

technomaster wrote:Why is there so much hate on Randle's spins - they only accounted for maybe 1 turnover/game.

I mean, going back to some Knick greats:
* Charles Oakley was good for 1 Hail Mary pass that sailed out into the stands every game.

* And Ewing was good for 1 would-be rebound that would bounce of his stone hands out of bounds.

You just compared a guy who barely played defense and averaged 3 TO's a game (while forgetting to pass to RJ) to 2 guys who were the blood, sweat and tears on a playoff dominant team and have some wonder about the hate?

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Who needs spacing?!

smackeddog wrote:

martin wrote:

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Who needs spacing?!

Ahhh I was soooo close!

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Phew!

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knicks1248, I stand corrected.

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Phew!

Thibs says the rotations are fluid at this point, but the idea of Payton taking away minutes from Dennis, Frank and Quickley this season is mind-boggling to me