I can't anymore with this guy. It's torture.
Elfrid is the tank commander we need in these chaotic days and there's still work to do before either Cade or Jalen are rocking the orange and blue.
If Payton isn’t playing well then his mins need to be gutted for quicks. I’d rather watch quicks hoist bad long 3s or those weird floaters of his then watch Payton brick.
“We” can’t cut him.
But the team has to first find a few guys that play better than him. either they on the roster or figure a trade that won’t cost too much.
Nalod wrote:“We” can’t cut him.
But the team has to first find a few guys that play better than him. either they on the roster or figure a trade that won’t cost too much.
I’d go with quick and Frank the rest of the way and be perfectly content
The pattern is that the coaches try 14 players in the backcourt for the first twenty games before realizing that Ntilikina is actually the best option.
Appreciate Payton for his contributions but time to get another shooter in starting lineup.
Hopefully know can be that shooter, so I would substitute Knox for Payton and Quickly for Rivers.
Like Rivers as that 6th man spark off the bench.
Pg: Quickly,Payton/Ntlikina
Sg: Barrett, Rivers
Sf: Knox, Bullock/Burks
Pf: Randle, Toppin
C: Robinson, Noel
fitzfarm wrote:Nalod wrote:“We” can’t cut him.
But the team has to first find a few guys that play better than him. either they on the roster or figure a trade that won’t cost too much.
I’d go with quick and Frank the rest of the way and be perfectly content
This
I’m so sick of watching Payton dribble for 17 seconds just to brick a pull up jumper
I thin Emmanuel Mudiay is still available.
Payton has had some nice games and spurts of play. As a starter, he is exposed for what he is- a third string pg.
I don’t understand what Thibs is doing with his tight rotation. We’re losing with Payton we can lose with Frank or DSjr.
Help?
franco12 wrote:I thin Emmanuel Mudiay is still available.Payton has had some nice games and spurts of play. As a starter, he is exposed for what he is- a third string pg.
I don’t understand what Thibs is doing with his tight rotation. We’re losing with Payton we can lose with Frank or DSjr.
Help?
jimmer fredette Is available and I’d take him over Payton at this point .
fitzfarm wrote:franco12 wrote:I thin Emmanuel Mudiay is still available.Payton has had some nice games and spurts of play. As a starter, he is exposed for what he is- a third string pg.
I don’t understand what Thibs is doing with his tight rotation. We’re losing with Payton we can lose with Frank or DSjr.
Help?
jimmer fredette Is available and I’d take him over Payton at this point .
Starbles could come out of retirement. And he could assistant coach at the same time. The new 21st century Herb!
What's Ron Baker doing?
Can we let IQ “Mentor” Elfrid?
Elf played for 8mil last year. We did not renew. Instead we resigned him for half and he still starts.
Philc1 wrote:
Thread Topic: Can we play Frank please! I can't take not watching Frank. It's torture.
Fixed. 
Guys are getting better with the stealth Frank threads.
However, starting to agree.
HofstraBBall wrote:Philc1 wrote:
Thread Topic: Can we play Frank please! I can't take not watching Frank. It's torture.
Fixed.
Guys are getting better with the stealth Frank threads.
However, starting to agree.
The problem is Peyton can't shoot and almost will always turndown at least 5 wide open 3's per game, he doesn't push the pace, and doesn't solve the spacing problem, and if your not going to shoot 3's at least be 55% from everywhere else.
Frank doesn't solve any of our problems at pg, this is the 5th coach that told you this.
What happen to Harper, is he just a practice squad signing
knicks1248 wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:Philc1 wrote:
Thread Topic: Can we play Frank please! I can't take not watching Frank. It's torture.
Fixed.
Guys are getting better with the stealth Frank threads.
However, starting to agree.
The problem is Peyton can't shoot and almost will always turndown at least 5 wide open 3's per game, he doesn't push the pace, and doesn't solve the spacing problem, and if your not going to shoot 3's at least be 55% from everywhere else.
Frank doesn't solve any of our problems at pg, this is the 5th coach that told you this.
What happen to Harper, is he just a practice squad signing
For me, nothing has changed. At least not day to day like some. Payton is still getting to the basket at a high rate and is the best PG we have. Unfortunately. He has had good games and some bad. Our biggest problem is not Payton its our 3pt shooting. As we saw when Burks, Bullock, RJ and Quick were hitting their three's, no one was complaining about Payton. He actually flourished because of it. Frank does not change that. He would be turning down more looks form three and driving and scoring a lot less than Payton. If we are going to knee jerk guys to be benched, it should be the ones that were EXPECTED to be able to hit 3's.
As for Harper. Why do fans always point to the 15th guy? Like they are not getting a chance in practices? Why would a coach let a guy get minutes over guys he is not outplaying in practice? Just because fans think they should? Harper is obviously not as good as Payton or Quicks. Remember Baker getting $2 million just cuz fans thought he deserved it.
This whole rocking ship will shift as soon as we get Burks back and he hopefully continues his good shooting. As we saw during the winning streak, good shooting is contagious. Just like bad shooting has been during the losing streak.
