Knicks · 2021 NBA Free Agency (and around the league): Preview and Primer (page 13)

martin @ 8/2/2021 6:11 PM

martin @ 8/2/2021 6:12 PM
MaTT4281 @ 8/2/2021 6:14 PM
martin wrote:

Curious if there's any team options.

Whatever your preferences are, both guys earned those contracts this year, Noel especially.

Chandler @ 8/2/2021 6:16 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Chandler wrote:I think the concept of stretch 5 is one of the most overrated. Unless he's the extremely rare case where the guy can hit at the same clip as a wing it seems vastly overrated. Yes i realize it can create space for a wing (assuming he's enough of a threat to be guarded closely)

I much prefer a 5 with quick enough feet to guard a switch (long enough)

Overrated???? dude you must be an older NBA fan or in denial...space and pace is the name of the game

I think you overstate this. The ability to step out to the 3 to hit a shot and the desire to park at the 3 pt line is different for centers. Brook Lopez did great stepping out, but also dominating in the paint and bodying up the younger Suns frontcourt.

Honestly, I want a guy that is comfortable banging in the paint. Once they are comfortable there, they can slide out to the 3 as the game dictates

brook lopez was the only stretch 5 in the final 4 teams. Capella, Ayton, Clippers, eg ZUbac

it's more important that your center can guard on the perimeter than jack up shots from there. One can argue Mitch is more important for spacing because whoever is guarding him cannot play help D on a drive or they just invite a dunk.

NYKMentality @ 8/2/2021 6:19 PM
One of the worst FA off-seasons of All-Time.

#1 in available salary cap space and we walk away with Evan and re-sign two of our own in Burks/Noel.

I'm disgusted.

#1 available salary cap space and we didn't improve our team not even one bit.

MS @ 8/2/2021 6:20 PM
Don’t like these contracts.

Too much money for Noel. Two long for Burks.

$21 for Lonzo would have been better.

Off to a bad start

smackeddog @ 8/2/2021 6:21 PM
MaTT4281 wrote:
martin wrote:

Curious if there's any team options.

Whatever your preferences are, both guys earned those contracts this year, Noel especially.

They did, though I do hope they have team options in there, especially for Noel

Chandler @ 8/2/2021 6:21 PM
martin wrote:

now this is just flat out weird given Mobley. I would have thought there would be some S&T

smackeddog @ 8/2/2021 6:22 PM
NYKMentality wrote:One of the worst FA off-seasons of All-Time.

#1 in available salary cap space and we walk away with Evan and re-sign two of our own in Burks/Noel.

I'm disgusted.

#1 available salary cap space and we didn't improve our team not even one bit.

It appears you didn’t look at the options, or manage your expectations, or study Knick offseason history, or even wait until it’s over

fitzfarm @ 8/2/2021 6:24 PM
Noel played his way into that contract, job well done . Prob one of the best if not the best back up C in the league.

Burks I thought would get more . Now sign d rose and the rest is gravy .

martin @ 8/2/2021 6:24 PM
smackeddog wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:One of the worst FA off-seasons of All-Time.

#1 in available salary cap space and we walk away with Evan and re-sign two of our own in Burks/Noel.

I'm disgusted.

#1 available salary cap space and we didn't improve our team not even one bit.

It appears you didn’t look at the options, or manage your expectations, or study Knick offseason history, or even wait until it’s over

truth, NYKMentality probably cries over spilled milk too

fitzfarm @ 8/2/2021 6:25 PM
smackeddog wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:One of the worst FA off-seasons of All-Time.

#1 in available salary cap space and we walk away with Evan and re-sign two of our own in Burks/Noel.

I'm disgusted.

#1 available salary cap space and we didn't improve our team not even one bit.

It appears you didn’t look at the options, or manage your expectations, or study Knick offseason history, or even wait until it’s over

From what it looks like contract talks with Fournier fell apart

MaTT4281 @ 8/2/2021 6:25 PM
NYKMentality wrote:One of the worst FA off-seasons of All-Time.

#1 in available salary cap space and we walk away with Evan and re-sign two of our own in Burks/Noel.

I'm disgusted.

#1 available salary cap space and we didn't improve our team not even one bit.

martin @ 8/2/2021 6:26 PM
martin @ 8/2/2021 6:29 PM
martin @ 8/2/2021 6:30 PM
smackeddog @ 8/2/2021 6:32 PM
Chandler @ 8/2/2021 6:32 PM
i'm glad we resigned burks

the challenge now is upgrading at pg, still snagging a SF (e.g.,oubre) and retaining Rose

MaTT4281 @ 8/2/2021 6:34 PM
martin wrote:

As long as he plays as he did this year, still a very moveable contact.

martin @ 8/2/2021 6:34 PM
smackeddog @ 8/2/2021 6:37 PM
MaTT4281 wrote:
martin wrote:

As long as he plays as he did this year, still a very moveable contact.

Yep, problem with Noel and Burkes this season was they were 1yr expiring which meant they essentially had zero trade value despite them outperforming the yearly amount

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