Knicks · 2021 NBA Free Agency (and around the league): Preview and Primer (page 14)

smackeddog @ 8/2/2021 6:37 PM
MaTT4281 wrote:
martin wrote:

As long as he plays as he did this year, still a very moveable contact.

Yep, problem with Noel and Burkes this season was they were 1yr expiring which meant they essentially had zero trade value despite them outperforming the yearly amount

smackeddog @ 8/2/2021 6:39 PM
BigDaddyG @ 8/2/2021 6:39 PM
MaTT4281 wrote:
martin wrote:

As long as he plays as he did this year, still a very moveable contact.

You need some of those $10M contacts to act as salary ballasts in trades.

martin @ 8/2/2021 6:39 PM
Some times you turn down a 4 year $70M contract, and then some years you sign a 3 year $32M contract.

martin wrote:
martin @ 8/2/2021 6:40 PM
whoa

knicks1248 @ 8/2/2021 6:40 PM
martin wrote:Some times you turn down a 4 year $70M contract, and then some years you sign a 3 year $32M contract.

martin wrote:

lol,

But had the knicks gave both a 2 yr deal last yr, im sure they would have save 4 mill on each of those contract

smackeddog @ 8/2/2021 6:42 PM
martin wrote:whoa

Shooters seem to get $17-20mil per year contracts these days (Hield, Bertrans, Duncan, probably Fournier)

MS @ 8/2/2021 6:43 PM
Lowry to the Heat.

Knicks enjoying a bag of dicks again in free agency. Fuck we are pathetic. Never get anyone.

Couldn’t even get Bogey last offseason.

C - this offseason

martin @ 8/2/2021 6:44 PM
Chandler @ 8/2/2021 6:44 PM
i like Noel but have mixed views on that contract

He's an impact player on D and covers up a lot of mistakes by others

but, he's also a liability on offense. You can't count on him to catch a lob or even a basic pass

i suspect i'll come around to it, but even if mitch signed for the same number you're talking 20+ from the center position collectively -- with limited offensive skills.

i suspect team chemistry and loyalty played into it, which is cool, but we do have some pressing priorities

knicks1248 @ 8/2/2021 6:45 PM
martin @ 8/2/2021 6:46 PM
WTF

BigDaddyG @ 8/2/2021 6:47 PM
Chandler wrote:i like Noel but have mixed views on that contract

He's an impact player on D and covers up a lot of mistakes by others

but, he's also a liability on offense. You can't count on him to catch a lob or even a basic pass

i suspect i'll come around to it, but even if mitch signed for the same number you're talking 20+ from the center position collectively -- with limited offensive skills.

i suspect team chemistry and loyalty played into it, which is cool, but we do have some pressing priorities


Bill Simmons made a good point. Teams seem to instantly regret it when they sign these centers on multi-year deals. Also, they instantly set the market for Mitch next season.
smackeddog @ 8/2/2021 6:47 PM
knicks1248 wrote:

Ha, for those that thought our deals were bad

knicks1248 @ 8/2/2021 6:47 PM
martin wrote:WTF


really..their tripping

smackeddog @ 8/2/2021 6:48 PM
Chandler wrote:i like Noel but have mixed views on that contract

He's an impact player on D and covers up a lot of mistakes by others

but, he's also a liability on offense. You can't count on him to catch a lob or even a basic pass

i suspect i'll come around to it, but even if mitch signed for the same number you're talking 20+ from the center position collectively -- with limited offensive skills.

i suspect team chemistry and loyalty played into it, which is cool, but we do have some pressing priorities

All depends on team options/how much is guaranteed

MaTT4281 @ 8/2/2021 6:49 PM
smackeddog wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:

Ha, for those that thought our deals were bad

Burks vs. McDermott, contract aside... I'm taking Burks!

knicks1248 @ 8/2/2021 6:49 PM
lowry, ball, cp3 of the board
MaTT4281 @ 8/2/2021 6:51 PM
martin wrote:WTF

Dude opted out of 44 mil. You knew he was still going to get paid, but damn! Hope they win a chip out of this because otherwise that contract for 40 year old CP is going to STING!

NYKMentality @ 8/2/2021 6:51 PM
Welp.

Miami not only re-signed Duncan Robinson at an absolute steal but also landed our PG Kyle Lowry during a trade.

Miami Heat are now a better team than us.

martin @ 8/2/2021 6:52 PM
MaTT4281 wrote:
martin wrote:WTF

Dude opted out of 44 mil. You knew he was still going to get paid, but damn! Hope they win a chip out of this because otherwise that context for 40 year old CP is going to STING!

Feel like it was only a month ago where there was some chatter about CP3 opting out to sign a 3 year $60M deal or something

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