NYStateOfMind wrote:I agree with Panos, most are not judging him on offensive success. Deuce doesn't need to be a scoring machine, just score some shots. He was missing almost all his shots for a week. As much as fans appreciate his D, hitting an open 3 once in a while when he lights it up in the g-league, isn't much to ask for in a tight game. An open shot is an open shot, playground, g-league, or the NBA. He is a 2nd unit spark if he can hit open 3pt shots around 33-35%. Is that too much to ask for?Panos wrote:blkexec wrote:What I find interesting reading some of these posts lately. For a while, fans have been saying we don't have a bench and Deuce should not get the minutes he's getting.But when we win, all of a sudden, we now have a bench. And now Deuce should get some minutes? SMH
Glad to see my boy Deuce hit some shots, since thats how fans measure his success. What I see is a consistent defender who gives 100% regardless if he's making shots and regardless of his minutes distribution. He's consistent on defense and this team needs more consistent players. Personally I don't care if he missed all his shots, he's contributing to winning basketball and his energy on defense spreads to other players and forces players to give a similar effort. Love it.
Making open shots is needed for this team. But having a player who Thibs can trust on defense is just an important. Now put the two together and we are seeing a solid 2 way guard develop in front of us. He was hand picked by Thibs and Deuce is a coaches dream. Blue collar worker who does everything the coach ask. Glad to see he's aggressive on offense. All he was missing was confidence he can score at this level. We already know he can score in the Gleague and he can score in college.
Congrats to Deuce. Lets hope Thibs utilizes these guys some more, and reduce RJ's starter minutes, while continuing to increase his second unit minutes. I like how Thibs is managing this situation between the big 3. JB and Randle are solid together and feed off each other. Let build around that.
When we've played a bunch of close games -- for example, the previous three games 2 were OT losses, and the other Knicks won by 2 pts -- yeah, it matters if he can hit a couple of shots. Could be the difference in a win or loss. Not to mention the kid's confidence.
All I'm saying is have patience with Deuce and his shot because even without it, he's giving you winning basetball plays (defense, steals, forced TOs, on ball pressure). Thats all I said. Some complain and ready for the quick hook. His recent play shows you a quick hook would've been premature. Can't have a team of all defense (agree). But the same can be said about offense (agree???). You need balance. And in this league where teams like to double JB or Randle, we need guys who can hit open shots (nobody disagrees with that).
I'm more worried about RJ hitting open shots than Deuce. When RJ miss, he will keep shooting until he hit. When Deuce miss, he doesn't keep shooting. So he's not going to shoot you out of a game. It's been 4 yrs now for RJ and his jumper is still not consistent while his defense got worse (I think he balked up too much). Deuce just getting playing time consistently this season, so it's not even a full season yet. RJ got consistent minutes from the day he was drafted. Lets have the same patience with Deuce. As you will see, if a lock down defender learns how to shoot, it's very rewarding for the team.
Eitherway, I'm happy for our team success this season.
My flowers goes out to Thibs. Complained about in game adjustments (check). Complained about not giving the yoots PT (check). I wanted Thibs to hold his big 3 accountable. Well we saw this with RJ's benching in the 4th (check).
The 22-year-old McBride said. “We know who our main guys are. So I think whatever I can do to help us win is the main thing.
If that’s making shots, OK, that’s great, but also
being a defensive player and coming in and maybe
getting an assist and
affecting the game in a positive way.“Obviously, some guys have been out, been down, and somebody needed to step up. I felt like it would be a great opportunity for me to come in and show what I have.”
https://nypost.com/2023/02/06/miles-mcbr...
blkexec wrote:The 22-year-old McBride said. “We know who our main guys are. So I think whatever I can do to help us win is the main thing. If that’s making shots, OK, that’s great, but also being a defensive player and coming in and maybe getting an assist and affecting the game in a positive way.“Obviously, some guys have been out, been down, and somebody needed to step up. I felt like it would be a great opportunity for me to come in and show what I have.”
https://nypost.com/2023/02/06/miles-mcbr...
Say it louder Deuce, so they can hear you in the back. Because if I said those same exact words, I will get several post replies saying "I disagree, he has to make shots lmao". So instead, I'll just let Deuce talk for himself.
I'm just happy he found a spot in Thibs rotation. As we have seen, it's not easy to get in and Deuce is in. Now lets see what we do with Obi. We trading him? Signing him? what are we doing with him? I don't mind keeping him if Thibs will play him. Sad that we picked him 8 to be a backup. But we also picked RJ 3rd, and most people are calling for his head.
blkexec wrote:NYStateOfMind wrote:I agree with Panos, most are not judging him on offensive success. Deuce doesn't need to be a scoring machine, just score some shots. He was missing almost all his shots for a week. As much as fans appreciate his D, hitting an open 3 once in a while when he lights it up in the g-league, isn't much to ask for in a tight game. An open shot is an open shot, playground, g-league, or the NBA. He is a 2nd unit spark if he can hit open 3pt shots around 33-35%. Is that too much to ask for?Panos wrote:blkexec wrote:What I find interesting reading some of these posts lately. For a while, fans have been saying we don't have a bench and Deuce should not get the minutes he's getting.But when we win, all of a sudden, we now have a bench. And now Deuce should get some minutes? SMH
Glad to see my boy Deuce hit some shots, since thats how fans measure his success. What I see is a consistent defender who gives 100% regardless if he's making shots and regardless of his minutes distribution. He's consistent on defense and this team needs more consistent players. Personally I don't care if he missed all his shots, he's contributing to winning basketball and his energy on defense spreads to other players and forces players to give a similar effort. Love it.
Making open shots is needed for this team. But having a player who Thibs can trust on defense is just an important. Now put the two together and we are seeing a solid 2 way guard develop in front of us. He was hand picked by Thibs and Deuce is a coaches dream. Blue collar worker who does everything the coach ask. Glad to see he's aggressive on offense. All he was missing was confidence he can score at this level. We already know he can score in the Gleague and he can score in college.
Congrats to Deuce. Lets hope Thibs utilizes these guys some more, and reduce RJ's starter minutes, while continuing to increase his second unit minutes. I like how Thibs is managing this situation between the big 3. JB and Randle are solid together and feed off each other. Let build around that.
When we've played a bunch of close games -- for example, the previous three games 2 were OT losses, and the other Knicks won by 2 pts -- yeah, it matters if he can hit a couple of shots. Could be the difference in a win or loss. Not to mention the kid's confidence.
All I'm saying is have patience with Deuce and his shot because even without it, he's giving you winning basetball plays (defense, steals, forced TOs, on ball pressure). Thats all I said. Some complain and ready for the quick hook. His recent play shows you a quick hook would've been premature. Can't have a team of all defense (agree). But the same can be said about offense (agree???). You need balance. And in this league where teams like to double JB or Randle, we need guys who can hit open shots (nobody disagrees with that).
I'm more worried about RJ hitting open shots than Deuce. When RJ miss, he will keep shooting until he hit. When Deuce miss, he doesn't keep shooting. So he's not going to shoot you out of a game. It's been 4 yrs now for RJ and his jumper is still not consistent while his defense got worse (I think he balked up too much). Deuce just getting playing time consistently this season, so it's not even a full season yet. RJ got consistent minutes from the day he was drafted. Lets have the same patience with Deuce. As you will see, if a lock down defender learns how to shoot, it's very rewarding for the team.
Eitherway, I'm happy for our team success this season.
My flowers goes out to Thibs. Complained about in game adjustments (check). Complained about not giving the yoots PT (check). I wanted Thibs to hold his big 3 accountable. Well we saw this with RJ's benching in the 4th (check).
RJ is a month older than McBride.
Rj avg 20 pts last year. Hung 46 on Miami too.
His coach wants him to shoot.
Same coach that wants Grimes and Mcbride to keep shooting. He believes in them.
He’s been shooting very well last couple games it would be great if he kept this up. If he can hit 3’s and have that go along with tenacious D off the bench he can be a killer.
If it wasn’t for the fluke Batum last second 3 we would have 3 straight wins against elite competition. Deuce making 3’s to be go along with being a pesky perimeter defender has been a big reason why
Game by game you can see Deuce getting more confident and even going towards the rim.
Awesome to see
blkexec wrote:blkexec wrote:The 22-year-old McBride said. “We know who our main guys are. So I think whatever I can do to help us win is the main thing. If that’s making shots, OK, that’s great, but also being a defensive player and coming in and maybe getting an assist and affecting the game in a positive way.“Obviously, some guys have been out, been down, and somebody needed to step up. I felt like it would be a great opportunity for me to come in and show what I have.”
https://nypost.com/2023/02/06/miles-mcbr...
Say it louder Deuce, so they can hear you in the back. Because if I said those same exact words, I will get several post replies saying "I disagree, he has to make shots lmao". So instead, I'll just let Deuce talk for himself.
I'm just happy he found a spot in Thibs rotation. As we have seen, it's not easy to get in and Deuce is in. Now lets see what we do with Obi. We trading him? Signing him? what are we doing with him? I don't mind keeping him if Thibs will play him. Sad that we picked him 8 to be a backup. But we also picked RJ 3rd, and most people are calling for his head.
what's funnny is this post is after him MAKING SOME SHOTS
Its hoops. You cant brick night after night and expect to help your team win. McBride has had 8 games in the last month where he didnt hit a FG. That's asking a lot of your teammates.
I am still patient. I honestly wish we could get him more g league games where he gets to go off. Seems to really help his confidence. Hopefully he turns it around and finds his confidence. When his offense is reasonable he's awesome. Nobody in the NBA can sustain playing time with no scoring and missing every shot. Nobody. Gotta get McBride at least into the Marcus Smart zone
Imagine how much better McBride would be if he had actual playing time his rookie year, but instead we played vets that likely squeeked out another 4 wins. We would have had a better pick last year that maybe we would not have traded away or gotten nice return for besides salary dump.
You have to develop from within and when you play broken down vets over the young players, you only edlay their development and hurt the team long term for useless short term gains that only hurts draft stock when you are in the bottom of the league. We are at the next phase since we are so much better, but not play Deuce last year was a mistake.
nyvector16 wrote:Imagine how much better McBride would be if he had actual playing time his rookie year, but instead we played vets that likely squeeked out another 4 wins. We would have had a better pick last year that maybe we would not have traded away or gotten nice return for besides salary dump.You have to develop from within and when you play broken down vets over the young players, you only edlay their development and hurt the team long term for useless short term gains that only hurts draft stock when you are in the bottom of the league. We are at the next phase since we are so much better, but not play Deuce last year was a mistake.
he was so bad when he played. He got a ton of time in the gleague. He was in the right place and has had a lot of chances.
fishmike wrote:nyvector16 wrote:Imagine how much better McBride would be if he had actual playing time his rookie year, but instead we played vets that likely squeeked out another 4 wins. We would have had a better pick last year that maybe we would not have traded away or gotten nice return for besides salary dump.You have to develop from within and when you play broken down vets over the young players, you only edlay their development and hurt the team long term for useless short term gains that only hurts draft stock when you are in the bottom of the league. We are at the next phase since we are so much better, but not play Deuce last year was a mistake.
he was so bad when he played. He got a ton of time in the gleague. He was in the right place and has had a lot of chances.
A lot of those minutes were given to IQ and I think we can all agree that they were fruitful. That said, Point Burks was a travesty. And I'm a Burks fan. If you want to tell me the Knicks were better off letting IQ sink or swim as the starting PG, with Burks playing some backup minutes and McBride getting a few more minutes here and there, I can't say that's the wrong.
BigDaddyG wrote:fishmike wrote:nyvector16 wrote:Imagine how much better McBride would be if he had actual playing time his rookie year, but instead we played vets that likely squeeked out another 4 wins. We would have had a better pick last year that maybe we would not have traded away or gotten nice return for besides salary dump.You have to develop from within and when you play broken down vets over the young players, you only edlay their development and hurt the team long term for useless short term gains that only hurts draft stock when you are in the bottom of the league. We are at the next phase since we are so much better, but not play Deuce last year was a mistake.
he was so bad when he played. He got a ton of time in the gleague. He was in the right place and has had a lot of chances.
A lot of those minutes were given to IQ and I think we can all agree that they were fruitful. That said, Point Burks was a travesty. And I'm a Burks fan. If you want to tell me the Knicks were better off letting IQ sink or swim as the starting PG, with Burks playing some backup minutes and McBride getting a few more minutes here and there, I can't say that's the wrong.
No team wants to start Burks as a PG. But most will realize he at least knows what should be done in that role; Burks understood it better than IQ. Burks is not overtly good at being a pure PG but he knows where to be, where the ball needs to go, where players need to be (all with a grain of salt) - all at that level, all much better than IQ at the beginning of the year (IQ finally started to get it towards back half of season).
My guess is he was put in place because IQ would have caused too much chaos for the other starters. Knicks had 4 other guys in the starting lineup that also needed to know what to do and where to be and Burks was better at the setup stage than IQ. And he was also a good outlet shooter at the end of plays (as opposed to someone like IQ/Deuce).
So this had less to do with Burks/IQ (and who was better and how those minutes could have been better used for dev of IQ) and more to do with getting Mitch, Randle, RJ, Fournier the ball in spots they needed to and Burks could perhaps do it better than IQ.
The question for me was: what/who was better for Mitch, Randle, RJ, Fournier and less to do with: Is IQ getting starter or bench minutes? That was my thought process.
martin wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:fishmike wrote:nyvector16 wrote:Imagine how much better McBride would be if he had actual playing time his rookie year, but instead we played vets that likely squeeked out another 4 wins. We would have had a better pick last year that maybe we would not have traded away or gotten nice return for besides salary dump.You have to develop from within and when you play broken down vets over the young players, you only edlay their development and hurt the team long term for useless short term gains that only hurts draft stock when you are in the bottom of the league. We are at the next phase since we are so much better, but not play Deuce last year was a mistake.
he was so bad when he played. He got a ton of time in the gleague. He was in the right place and has had a lot of chances.
A lot of those minutes were given to IQ and I think we can all agree that they were fruitful. That said, Point Burks was a travesty. And I'm a Burks fan. If you want to tell me the Knicks were better off letting IQ sink or swim as the starting PG, with Burks playing some backup minutes and McBride getting a few more minutes here and there, I can't say that's the wrong.
No team wants to start Burks as a PG. But most will realize he at least knows what should be done in that role; Burks understood it better than IQ. Burks is not overtly good at being a pure PG but he knows where to be, where the ball needs to go, where players need to be (all with a grain of salt) - all at that level, all much better than IQ at the beginning of the year (IQ finally started to get it towards back half of season).
My guess is he was put in place because IQ would have caused too much chaos for the other starters. Knicks had 4 other guys in the starting lineup that also needed to know what to do and where to be and Burks was better at the setup stage than IQ. And he was also a good outlet shooter at the end of plays (as opposed to someone like IQ/Deuce).
So this had less to do with Burks/IQ (and who was better and how those minutes could have been better used for dev of IQ) and more to do with getting Mitch, Randle, RJ, Fournier the ball in spots they needed to and Burks could perhaps do it better than IQ.
The question for me was: what/who was better for Mitch, Randle, RJ, Fournier and less to do with: Is IQ getting starter or bench minutes? That was my thought process.
funny... last night Casey benched Hayes and started Burks at PG. Obviously not a future based move beyond getting the team to just play better quality ball.
fishmike wrote:martin wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:fishmike wrote:nyvector16 wrote:Imagine how much better McBride would be if he had actual playing time his rookie year, but instead we played vets that likely squeeked out another 4 wins. We would have had a better pick last year that maybe we would not have traded away or gotten nice return for besides salary dump.You have to develop from within and when you play broken down vets over the young players, you only edlay their development and hurt the team long term for useless short term gains that only hurts draft stock when you are in the bottom of the league. We are at the next phase since we are so much better, but not play Deuce last year was a mistake.
he was so bad when he played. He got a ton of time in the gleague. He was in the right place and has had a lot of chances.
A lot of those minutes were given to IQ and I think we can all agree that they were fruitful. That said, Point Burks was a travesty. And I'm a Burks fan. If you want to tell me the Knicks were better off letting IQ sink or swim as the starting PG, with Burks playing some backup minutes and McBride getting a few more minutes here and there, I can't say that's the wrong.
No team wants to start Burks as a PG. But most will realize he at least knows what should be done in that role; Burks understood it better than IQ. Burks is not overtly good at being a pure PG but he knows where to be, where the ball needs to go, where players need to be (all with a grain of salt) - all at that level, all much better than IQ at the beginning of the year (IQ finally started to get it towards back half of season).
My guess is he was put in place because IQ would have caused too much chaos for the other starters. Knicks had 4 other guys in the starting lineup that also needed to know what to do and where to be and Burks was better at the setup stage than IQ. And he was also a good outlet shooter at the end of plays (as opposed to someone like IQ/Deuce).
So this had less to do with Burks/IQ (and who was better and how those minutes could have been better used for dev of IQ) and more to do with getting Mitch, Randle, RJ, Fournier the ball in spots they needed to and Burks could perhaps do it better than IQ.
The question for me was: what/who was better for Mitch, Randle, RJ, Fournier and less to do with: Is IQ getting starter or bench minutes? That was my thought process.
funny... last night Casey benched Hayes and started Burks at PG. Obviously not a future based move beyond getting the team to just play better quality ball.
We don't WANT you on that wall, we NEED you on that wall
fishmike wrote:martin wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:fishmike wrote:nyvector16 wrote:Imagine how much better McBride would be if he had actual playing time his rookie year, but instead we played vets that likely squeeked out another 4 wins. We would have had a better pick last year that maybe we would not have traded away or gotten nice return for besides salary dump.You have to develop from within and when you play broken down vets over the young players, you only edlay their development and hurt the team long term for useless short term gains that only hurts draft stock when you are in the bottom of the league. We are at the next phase since we are so much better, but not play Deuce last year was a mistake.
he was so bad when he played. He got a ton of time in the gleague. He was in the right place and has had a lot of chances.
A lot of those minutes were given to IQ and I think we can all agree that they were fruitful. That said, Point Burks was a travesty. And I'm a Burks fan. If you want to tell me the Knicks were better off letting IQ sink or swim as the starting PG, with Burks playing some backup minutes and McBride getting a few more minutes here and there, I can't say that's the wrong.
No team wants to start Burks as a PG. But most will realize he at least knows what should be done in that role; Burks understood it better than IQ. Burks is not overtly good at being a pure PG but he knows where to be, where the ball needs to go, where players need to be (all with a grain of salt) - all at that level, all much better than IQ at the beginning of the year (IQ finally started to get it towards back half of season).
My guess is he was put in place because IQ would have caused too much chaos for the other starters. Knicks had 4 other guys in the starting lineup that also needed to know what to do and where to be and Burks was better at the setup stage than IQ. And he was also a good outlet shooter at the end of plays (as opposed to someone like IQ/Deuce).
So this had less to do with Burks/IQ (and who was better and how those minutes could have been better used for dev of IQ) and more to do with getting Mitch, Randle, RJ, Fournier the ball in spots they needed to and Burks could perhaps do it better than IQ.
The question for me was: what/who was better for Mitch, Randle, RJ, Fournier and less to do with: Is IQ getting starter or bench minutes? That was my thought process.
funny... last night Casey benched Hayes and started Burks at PG. Obviously not a future based move beyond getting the team to just play better quality ball.
Difference is they have Ivey. And Hayes is one of the NBA PGs out there that is worse at it that Burks. I'd argue it was a future based move in sense. The org got to see what it has in French kid and decided to move on. Now they're lead guard of the future gets more reps and has a veteran to lean on in the backcourt.
Just popping in to say very happy for the kid. Plays the game the right way. Super glad he's been hitting shots and feeling more confident
Am i the only one who thinks he's trying to mimic Marcus SMart's hairdo?
nyvector16 wrote:Imagine how much better McBride would be if he had actual playing time his rookie year, but instead we played vets that likely squeeked out another 4 wins. We would have had a better pick last year that maybe we would not have traded away or gotten nice return for besides salary dump.You have to develop from within and when you play broken down vets over the young players, you only edlay their development and hurt the team long term for useless short term gains that only hurts draft stock when you are in the bottom of the league. We are at the next phase since we are so much better, but not play Deuce last year was a mistake.
So refreshing to hear a poster who's on the same page. This was my argument as well. Unless the vets are leading us to the eastern conference finals. But thats not the case for the role player vets we added. I hope we do not repeat that issue again.
blkexec wrote:nyvector16 wrote:Imagine how much better McBride would be if he had actual playing time his rookie year, but instead we played vets that likely squeeked out another 4 wins. We would have had a better pick last year that maybe we would not have traded away or gotten nice return for besides salary dump.You have to develop from within and when you play broken down vets over the young players, you only edlay their development and hurt the team long term for useless short term gains that only hurts draft stock when you are in the bottom of the league. We are at the next phase since we are so much better, but not play Deuce last year was a mistake.
So refreshing to hear a poster who's on the same page. This was my argument as well. Unless the vets are leading us to the eastern conference finals. But thats not the case for the role player vets we added. I hope we do not repeat that issue again.
how do you know it wouldnt have made him worse and even further damaged his confidence? Forcing a struggling young player out there makes zero sense. They sent him to the minors where he did really well.
fishmike wrote:blkexec wrote:nyvector16 wrote:Imagine how much better McBride would be if he had actual playing time his rookie year, but instead we played vets that likely squeeked out another 4 wins. We would have had a better pick last year that maybe we would not have traded away or gotten nice return for besides salary dump.You have to develop from within and when you play broken down vets over the young players, you only edlay their development and hurt the team long term for useless short term gains that only hurts draft stock when you are in the bottom of the league. We are at the next phase since we are so much better, but not play Deuce last year was a mistake.
So refreshing to hear a poster who's on the same page. This was my argument as well. Unless the vets are leading us to the eastern conference finals. But thats not the case for the role player vets we added. I hope we do not repeat that issue again.
how do you know it wouldnt have made him worse and even further damaged his confidence? Forcing a struggling young player out there makes zero sense. They sent him to the minors where he did really well.
I'm all for the old school way of youth development
fishmike wrote:blkexec wrote:nyvector16 wrote:Imagine how much better McBride would be if he had actual playing time his rookie year, but instead we played vets that likely squeeked out another 4 wins. We would have had a better pick last year that maybe we would not have traded away or gotten nice return for besides salary dump.You have to develop from within and when you play broken down vets over the young players, you only edlay their development and hurt the team long term for useless short term gains that only hurts draft stock when you are in the bottom of the league. We are at the next phase since we are so much better, but not play Deuce last year was a mistake.
So refreshing to hear a poster who's on the same page. This was my argument as well. Unless the vets are leading us to the eastern conference finals. But thats not the case for the role player vets we added. I hope we do not repeat that issue again.
how do you know it wouldnt have made him worse and even further damaged his confidence? Forcing a struggling young player out there makes zero sense. They sent him to the minors where he did really well.
Thats the risk you take with all rookies.
What if RJ came off the bench to start his career? He would be a different player right now (Better or Worst we would never know).
Same with Deuce. But I wasn't worried about throwing Deuce out there because what he does in his sleep is defense. And I'm only throwing Deuce out there, because he was the next man up. I never said start him after draft day. But Kemba was removed and Rose was hurt. We had 3 PGs on the roster and 2 went down. Simple math to me.
Knox is one example I believe may have hurt his development or Maybe Knox wasn't that good. The point is the Knicks wasn't going anywhere and only won a few games more with vets. Playing Deuce / IQ when all of our PGs was down, would not hurt the team any worse than what we saw. And IQ was more seasoned then, so I wasn't worried about hurting his confidence.
Throw the kids in the pool and watch them swim. Whoever can't swim, pull them out and push them back in until they get it right. Or Move on. (School of Hard Knocks)
BigDaddyG wrote:fishmike wrote:blkexec wrote:nyvector16 wrote:Imagine how much better McBride would be if he had actual playing time his rookie year, but instead we played vets that likely squeeked out another 4 wins. We would have had a better pick last year that maybe we would not have traded away or gotten nice return for besides salary dump.You have to develop from within and when you play broken down vets over the young players, you only edlay their development and hurt the team long term for useless short term gains that only hurts draft stock when you are in the bottom of the league. We are at the next phase since we are so much better, but not play Deuce last year was a mistake.
So refreshing to hear a poster who's on the same page. This was my argument as well. Unless the vets are leading us to the eastern conference finals. But thats not the case for the role player vets we added. I hope we do not repeat that issue again.
how do you know it wouldnt have made him worse and even further damaged his confidence? Forcing a struggling young player out there makes zero sense. They sent him to the minors where he did really well.
I'm all for the old school way of youth development
yup... you want minutes go get em. Truth is I love Deuce but you gotta make it happen on the court. I'll not fall into the Frank trap again!
fishmike wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:fishmike wrote:blkexec wrote:nyvector16 wrote:Imagine how much better McBride would be if he had actual playing time his rookie year, but instead we played vets that likely squeeked out another 4 wins. We would have had a better pick last year that maybe we would not have traded away or gotten nice return for besides salary dump.You have to develop from within and when you play broken down vets over the young players, you only edlay their development and hurt the team long term for useless short term gains that only hurts draft stock when you are in the bottom of the league. We are at the next phase since we are so much better, but not play Deuce last year was a mistake.
So refreshing to hear a poster who's on the same page. This was my argument as well. Unless the vets are leading us to the eastern conference finals. But thats not the case for the role player vets we added. I hope we do not repeat that issue again.
how do you know it wouldnt have made him worse and even further damaged his confidence? Forcing a struggling young player out there makes zero sense. They sent him to the minors where he did really well.
I'm all for the old school way of youth development
yup... you want minutes go get em. Truth is I love Deuce but you gotta make it happen on the court. I'll not fall into the Frank trap again!
Actually it has nothing to do with the court we see on tv. It’s what they do in practice. And according to Thibs, deuce is hitting his shots in practice. It’s just not transferring to the main stage yet, until recently. So I agree with thibs on this. And I’ll have to trust thibs on using practice time to justify playing time or lack there of (ex. Cam)
