Knicks · Evan Fournier has single handedly ruined and destroyed the Knicks. (page 3)

NYKMentality @ 12/15/2021 7:50 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:He's completely useless.

He's dreadful on Defense.

He's putrid on Offense.

He's the most and least athletic NBA player I've ever witnessed.

He makes me not even want to watch Knicks basketball anymore.

I love coach Thibs but if Thibs doesn't completely remove EF from his rotation? I'll lose all the respect I've ever had for him.

Our identity is gone because of Evan Fournier.

EF is not playing well. "Single-handedly"? More like the scapegoat. Facts are:

Randle 2020 41% from 3pt 47% from 2pt 24ppg / 2021 34% from 3pt, 46% from 2pt, 19ppg
Rj 2020 40,45,17 / 2021 35,43,15
Burks 2020 41,42/12 / 2021 39,39,11
IQ 2020 39,40,11 / 2021 32,37,10 (In more minutes per game)
Rose 2020 41,50,15 / 2021 40,47,12

EF averages 38,50,14 for his career. What did you expect?

Not making an excuse for him but just pointing out A) the entire team is responsible. B) Expectations should have been managed.

Funny how you're leaving out Evan Fournier trash ass Defensive stats.

Yes. Evan Fournier has single handedly ruined the identity of our starting 5.

Uptown @ 12/15/2021 7:57 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:He's completely useless.

He's dreadful on Defense.

He's putrid on Offense.

He's the most and least athletic NBA player I've ever witnessed.

He makes me not even want to watch Knicks basketball anymore.

I love coach Thibs but if Thibs doesn't completely remove EF from his rotation? I'll lose all the respect I've ever had for him.

Our identity is gone because of Evan Fournier.

EF is not playing well. "Single-handedly"? More like the scapegoat. Facts are:

Randle 2020 41% from 3pt 47% from 2pt 24ppg / 2021 34% from 3pt, 46% from 2pt, 19ppg
Rj 2020 40,45,17 / 2021 35,43,15
Burks 2020 41,42/12 / 2021 39,39,11
IQ 2020 39,40,11 / 2021 32,37,10 (In more minutes per game)
Rose 2020 41,50,15 / 2021 40,47,12

EF averages 38,50,14 for his career. What did you expect?

Not making an excuse for him but just pointing out A) the entire team is responsible. B) Expectations should have been managed.

With the exception of Obi, our rotation players have all regressed from last season. First it was Kemba, now Fournier is the blame-flava of the month.

HofstraBBall @ 12/15/2021 8:00 PM
NYKMentality wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:He's completely useless.

He's dreadful on Defense.

He's putrid on Offense.

He's the most and least athletic NBA player I've ever witnessed.

He makes me not even want to watch Knicks basketball anymore.

I love coach Thibs but if Thibs doesn't completely remove EF from his rotation? I'll lose all the respect I've ever had for him.

Our identity is gone because of Evan Fournier.

EF is not playing well. "Single-handedly"? More like the scapegoat. Facts are:

Randle 2020 41% from 3pt 47% from 2pt 24ppg / 2021 34% from 3pt, 46% from 2pt, 19ppg
Rj 2020 40,45,17 / 2021 35,43,15
Burks 2020 41,42/12 / 2021 39,39,11
IQ 2020 39,40,11 / 2021 32,37,10 (In more minutes per game)
Rose 2020 41,50,15 / 2021 40,47,12

EF averages 38,50,14 for his career. What did you expect?

Not making an excuse for him but just pointing out A) the entire team is responsible. B) Expectations should have been managed.

Funny how you're leaving out Evan Fournier trash ass Defensive stats.

Yes. Evan Fournier has single handedly ruined the identity of our starting 5.

Did you read my post? Not defending his play. Just pointing out the blame is widesread.

Fyi. During the losing streak, EF is shooting 30% from three!! terrible. Do you want to know what IQ and Burks are shooting in the same span? Hint: Not nearly that high.

Philc1 @ 12/15/2021 8:21 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:He's completely useless.

He's dreadful on Defense.

He's putrid on Offense.

He's the most and least athletic NBA player I've ever witnessed.

He makes me not even want to watch Knicks basketball anymore.

I love coach Thibs but if Thibs doesn't completely remove EF from his rotation? I'll lose all the respect I've ever had for him.

Our identity is gone because of Evan Fournier.

EF is not playing well. "Single-handedly"? More like the scapegoat. Facts are:

Randle 2020 41% from 3pt 47% from 2pt 24ppg / 2021 34% from 3pt, 46% from 2pt, 19ppg
Rj 2020 40,45,17 / 2021 35,43,15
Burks 2020 41,42/12 / 2021 39,39,11
IQ 2020 39,40,11 / 2021 32,37,10 (In more minutes per game)
Rose 2020 41,50,15 / 2021 40,47,12

EF averages 38,50,14 for his career. What did you expect?

Not making an excuse for him but just pointing out A) the entire team is responsible. B) Expectations should have been managed.

Everyone’s shooting percentages are down this year. Everyone except Kemba Wa- leave that for another time

Philc1 @ 12/15/2021 8:23 PM
NYKMentality wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:He's completely useless.

He's dreadful on Defense.

He's putrid on Offense.

He's the most and least athletic NBA player I've ever witnessed.

He makes me not even want to watch Knicks basketball anymore.

I love coach Thibs but if Thibs doesn't completely remove EF from his rotation? I'll lose all the respect I've ever had for him.

Our identity is gone because of Evan Fournier.

EF is not playing well. "Single-handedly"? More like the scapegoat. Facts are:

Randle 2020 41% from 3pt 47% from 2pt 24ppg / 2021 34% from 3pt, 46% from 2pt, 19ppg
Rj 2020 40,45,17 / 2021 35,43,15
Burks 2020 41,42/12 / 2021 39,39,11
IQ 2020 39,40,11 / 2021 32,37,10 (In more minutes per game)
Rose 2020 41,50,15 / 2021 40,47,12

EF averages 38,50,14 for his career. What did you expect?

Not making an excuse for him but just pointing out A) the entire team is responsible. B) Expectations should have been managed.

Funny how you're leaving out Evan Fournier trash ass Defensive stats.

Yes. Evan Fournier has single handedly ruined the identity of our starting 5.

There are inanimate objects that can defend the pick and roll better than EF

Kemet @ 12/15/2021 9:40 PM
Lets see .. Fournier stop averaging his career performance when Thibs put Kemba in his Dog-House .. Thibs is 2-7 without Kemba, plus Thibs decrease the Knicks deep depth 10 man rotation to 9 during the last 9 games early in the regular season.
smackeddog @ 12/16/2021 4:10 AM
To be fair to Fournier, a lot of players are struggling from 3 who were good shooters- SGA, Beal, even Duncan- no idea what's going on
EwingsGlass @ 12/16/2021 7:35 AM
smackeddog wrote:To be fair to Fournier, a lot of players are struggling from 3 who were good shooters- SGA, Beal, even Duncan- no idea what's going on

New ball.

knicks1248 @ 12/16/2021 8:08 AM
smackeddog wrote:To be fair to Fournier, a lot of players are struggling from 3 who were good shooters- SGA, Beal, even Duncan- no idea what's going on

I definitely feel like the FANS have made a difference. I know since the FANS came back to MSG, the knicks have been brutal at home going back to the end of last season
martin @ 12/16/2021 8:15 AM
EwingsGlass wrote:
smackeddog wrote:To be fair to Fournier, a lot of players are struggling from 3 who were good shooters- SGA, Beal, even Duncan- no idea what's going on

New ball.

Completely forgot about that

Philc1 @ 12/16/2021 9:58 AM
Kemet wrote:Lets see .. Fournier stop averaging his career performance when Thibs put Kemba in his Dog-House .. Thibs is 2-7 without Kemba, plus Thibs decrease the Knicks deep depth 10 man rotation to 9 during the last 9 games early in the regular season.

Yeah but our defense is sooooooo much better

fishmike @ 12/22/2021 12:28 PM
NYKMentality wrote:He's completely useless.

He's dreadful on Defense.

He's putrid on Offense.

He's the most and least athletic NBA player I've ever witnessed.

He makes me not even want to watch Knicks basketball anymore.

I love coach Thibs but if Thibs doesn't completely remove EF from his rotation? I'll lose all the respect I've ever had for him.

Our identity is gone because of Evan Fournier.

only thing keeping us from winning those 60 games you were so sure about
blkexec @ 12/22/2021 12:40 PM
smackeddog wrote:To be fair to Fournier, a lot of players are struggling from 3 who were good shooters- SGA, Beal, even Duncan- no idea what's going on

Yep, they are blaming it on the ball change. Also, the hand check rule is allowed, along with some physical play. So new ball and new rules will definitely impact shooting percentages. On top of that, EF was trying to fit in and play off of Randle, which is not an easy thing to do. Randle is very unorthodox. Hard to see where his passes are coming from, when he wants to pass and when he's going into bully ball.

I think EF will turn his season around and this covid protocol is helping him.

KnickDanger @ 12/22/2021 12:49 PM
Jeez these threads....
fishmike @ 12/22/2021 12:52 PM
KnickDanger wrote:Jeez these threads....

its really rough man... if its not jive like this its Briggs saying "we gotta dump Mitch" followed by "holy shit was I right about how good Mitch is"

Happy holidays tho

KnickDanger @ 12/22/2021 1:45 PM
fishmike wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:Jeez these threads....

its really rough man... if its not jive like this its Briggs saying "we gotta dump Mitch" followed by "holy shit was I right about how good Mitch is"

Happy holidays tho


To you as well -- and all my fellow crazy azz Knicks fans!
BigDaddyG @ 12/22/2021 4:13 PM
fishmike wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:Jeez these threads....

its really rough man... if its not jive like this its Briggs saying "we gotta dump Mitch" followed by "holy shit was I right about how good Mitch is"

Happy holidays tho

Briggs is the living, breathing avatar for this FUBAR season Still have hope that they'll gain consistency. I hope James Hard...,uh, Black Santa is good to you and the rest of the board this year

VDesai @ 12/22/2021 5:29 PM
Fournier is doing ok. This two man game with Randle would work better if Randle was hitting his 3s.
NYKMentality @ 12/22/2021 5:52 PM
VDesai wrote:Fournier is doing ok. This two man game with Randle would work better if Randle was hitting his 3s.

It's the defensive end of the floor where Evan Fournier is drop dead dreadful.

He's absolutely useless on Defense and is a liability/weak like every single Defensive possession.

He should be coming off the bench and shouldn't sniff playing time with our starters.

KnickDanger @ 12/22/2021 6:09 PM
NYKMentality wrote:
VDesai wrote:Fournier is doing ok. This two man game with Randle would work better if Randle was hitting his 3s.

It's the defensive end of the floor where Evan Fournier is drop dead dreadful.

He's absolutely useless on Defense and is a liability/weak like every single Defensive possession.

He should be coming off the bench and shouldn't sniff playing time with our starters.

Taking it down a notch from single-handedly ruining and destroying I see.

NYKMentality @ 12/22/2021 6:14 PM
KnickDanger wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:
VDesai wrote:Fournier is doing ok. This two man game with Randle would work better if Randle was hitting his 3s.
It's the defensive end of the floor where Evan Fournier is drop dead dreadful.

He's absolutely useless on Defense and is a liability/weak like every single Defensive possession.

He should be coming off the bench and shouldn't sniff playing time with our starters.

Taking it down a notch from single-handedly ruining and destroying I see.

We were the #1 D last year.

He's completely ruined and destroyed our Defensive identity.

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