Knicks · No surprise here: Randle may be made available by the deadline! But will bite? ... I wouldn't.😟 (page 1)

At the roght price Randle will be made available in the trade deadline. I think he is someone who could benefit from a change of scenery. But with his putrid performance and just overall bad body language, which team in their right mind would even want a player like Randle. Well if he ever becomes an all star again then his contract will look like a bargain

He’s gonna have a 30-15-7 games soon. Sit him down after that 1 and trade him if that’s the angle. I’d try him at the 5 position.

BRIGGS wrote:He’s gonna have a 30-15-7 games soon. Sit him down after that 1 and trade him if that’s the angle. I’d try him at the 5 position.

Now you know full well that won’t be the case. They’ll see that game and automatically think last years’ Julius is back. You really think not?

BRIGGS wrote:He’s gonna have a 30-15-7 games soon. Sit him down after that 1 and trade him if that’s the angle. I’d try him at the 5 position.

Have a good game, trade him like a stock? Keeping it real?

BRIGGS wrote:He’s gonna have a 30-15-7 games soon. Sit him down after that 1 and trade him if that’s the angle. I’d try him at the 5 position.

Throughout the season he gets 1 or 2 30pt games then goes back to his 4pt performance. I dont mind if he thrives and even dominates on his new team his overall personality is draining when he is having a bad game.

Who is the perfect player to get for Randle? Simmons, Fox, Harden Sabonis or Ingram? ? I hope if he gets traded its to a good young player.

Jimbo5 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:He’s gonna have a 30-15-7 games soon. Sit him down after that 1 and trade him if that’s the angle. I’d try him at the 5 position.

Throughout the season he gets 1 or 2 30pt games then goes back to his 4pt performance. I dont mind if he thrives and even dominates on his new team his overall personality is draining when he is having a bad game.

Who is the perfect player to get for Randle? Simmons, Fox, Harden Sabonis or Ingram? ? I hope if he gets traded its to a good young player.

i think your best bet would be to get 2 1sts

Keeping in mind these may require more (packages/picks) - I see these as the core players possibly if play if Randle is moved Feb 3...

Best Case - Fox (Sac), D.Murray (SAS), McCollum/Simmons (Port), M.Turner (Ind), Ayton (Phx)

Lateral - J.Grant (Det), J.Collins (Atl), Sabonis (Ind)

Risky and won't happen... Simmons (Phi), KP (Dall :), Harden (NJ)

Salary Dump - Westbrook (LAL), Wall (Hou)

The Longest of Longshots - Wiseman/Kuminga (GS), Towns (Minn), Zion (NO), D.Mitchell (UT)

jaydh wrote:

Jimbo5 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:He’s gonna have a 30-15-7 games soon. Sit him down after that 1 and trade him if that’s the angle. I’d try him at the 5 position.

Throughout the season he gets 1 or 2 30pt games then goes back to his 4pt performance. I dont mind if he thrives and even dominates on his new team his overall personality is draining when he is having a bad game.

Who is the perfect player to get for Randle? Simmons, Fox, Harden Sabonis or Ingram? ? I hope if he gets traded its to a good young player.

i think your best bet would be to get 2 1sts

We’d be lucky to get 1 1st

Jimbo5 wrote:At the roght price Randle will be made available in the trade deadline. I think he is someone who could benefit from a change of scenery. But with his putrid performance and just overall bad body language, which team in their right mind would even want a player like Randle. Well if he ever becomes an all star again then his contract will look like a bargain

The time to trade him was last summer but hey

CP of Knicks fan tv said he'd heard from his source that the Knicks were looking at trading Randle 2 weeks ago (which was over a week after the whole thumbs down stuff), and said his source said "don't be surprised if he's traded at the deadline or the summer" (his tone seemed to be pretty firm)

After letting it known that Randle is trying to be traded now the rest of the oldies (kemba, Evan and Burks) is being shopped as well. Ideally all four players should be traded but realistically i wont be surprised if by the time the deadline passes none or at most only Burks is traded.

I think the only way these players get traded is if the FO is willing to attach good players like IQ or Grimes.

I expect the Knicks to wait and see if anyone makes a decent offer for Randle and just ship him out. Similar to what they did with KP where the goal was expediency over getting more assets in a bidding war. I think picks or young players get it done. I don’t see them paying for him to leave either. We aren’t a contender so him being bad isn’t costing them a playoff run.

I don’t think they openly shop him until the summer, teams would have to come to them. By trading Fournier and Kemba now, maybe he won’t pout like a child and put in effort again.

wargames wrote:I expect the Knicks to wait and see if anyone makes a decent offer for Randle and just ship him out. Similar to what they did with KP where the goal was expediency over getting more assets in a bidding war. I think picks or young players get it done. I don’t see them paying for him to leave either. We aren’t a contender so him being bad isn’t costing them a playoff run.

I don’t think they openly shop him until the summer, teams would have to come to them. By trading Fournier and Kemba now, maybe he won’t pout like a child and put in effort again.

I hear what you are saying, but in no way am I giving the impression that we are trading players to cater to this clown. IMO, Randle should be the first domino to fall....

we keep adding more and more to this with no facts.
Perhaps it all makes sense but perhaps this is RJ’s team and its a chemistry thing. We are making it like he found success and went from “we here” goodness to a lazy malcontent.

Knicks are more or less capped out for the next two seasons because of the deals signed last summer. I think Noel, Kemba, and Fournier for Westbrook is a deal that works. The Knicks are missing moxie and Westbrook brings it in loads. For LA, they are basically trading Westbrook for Fournier with some outside chance that Kemba and Noel can give them something. Noel's lawsuit might be a stumbling block.

Maybe Knicks go full Orlando and try to unload everyone while we reset around IQ Barrett Reddish Topping and Robinson. It seems like that plan is riskier than hoping Randle turns it around over the next 3 years.

smackeddog wrote:CP of Knicks fan tv said he'd heard from his source that the Knicks were looking at trading Randle 2 weeks ago (which was over a week after the whole thumbs down stuff), and said his source said "don't be surprised if he's traded at the deadline or the summer" (his tone seemed to be pretty firm)

I like how this guy thinks. I also still believe in EF. I think his best position would be 6th man of the bench with the young guys. He will do better when he is more than a spot up shooter waiting for the Randle pass at the end of the shot clock. We will get burned by his defense less. It will hurt less when he has a bad offensive night. Start Grimes in his place. Grimes will have his hardships because he is still young and even though he is in the rotation now he still has not played much in general this season.

Trading Burks and Kemba will fix rotations until Rose comes back. Then things get tight again. How will we slot a spot for Cam? I am not high on Cam but we need to give him a chance to show what he's got because time for a contract extension is coming soon. This is probably the main reason why the FO is forcing Thibs to play younger players.

Nalod wrote:we keep adding more and more to this with no facts.
Perhaps it all makes sense but perhaps this is RJ’s team and its a chemistry thing. We are making it like he found success and went from “we here” goodness to a lazy malcontent.

“We not done yet.” The fact that the Knicks marketing team used that one made me nauseous.

jaydh wrote:

Jimbo5 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:He’s gonna have a 30-15-7 games soon. Sit him down after that 1 and trade him if that’s the angle. I’d try him at the 5 position.

Throughout the season he gets 1 or 2 30pt games then goes back to his 4pt performance. I dont mind if he thrives and even dominates on his new team his overall personality is draining when he is having a bad game.

Who is the perfect player to get for Randle? Simmons, Fox, Harden Sabonis or Ingram? ? I hope if he gets traded its to a good young player.

i think your best bet would be to get 2 1sts

Your not trading him for draft picks, or dumping him, that would be silly.

Should I mention how many times we struck out in FA with a billion dollars in cap space.

Jimbo5 wrote:After letting it known that Randle is trying to be traded now the rest of the oldies (kemba, Evan and Burks) is being shopped as well. Ideally all four players should be traded but realistically i wont be surprised if by the time the deadline passes none or at most only Burks is traded.

I think the only way these players get traded is if the FO is willing to attach good players like IQ or Grimes.

Don't agree. Fournier may be a different scenario if you are talking about trading him 1-for-1 because of his contract but I don't think the Knicks want to trade him (by attaching an asset) just to get rid of him.

The Knicks are NOT trading IQ/Grimes in that scenario. Those 2 aren't going out unless there is a major upgrade in the process.

The Knicks don't need to offload players by attaching assets, they can just sit them if they want.

Kemba, Burks may have value to a team that wants to dump a contract of a player that is hurt this year or is literal dead weight or if they are desperate to fill out the bench. That's the situation Kemba, Burks or Evan are going out.

For instance, if the Lakers think they can go deep playoffs and want to be all in, maybe they think about moving Talen Horton-Tucker who is not playing very well and they think Burks is an upgrade for them. I don't really know that player but it's that type of trade that may happen.

The only obvious trade out there would be for Fox. Something like Randle and Burks for Fox. But otherwise moving Randle creates more problems than it solves. It’s nice thinking about handing the keys to Barrett, but he needs someone to take the pressure off of him. And Toppin isn’t ready to fill those shoes, especially without an elite playmaking PG. For fans who want to turn over the PF position to Toppin, it’s only feasible if he has an engine pushing the pace to bring out his best abilities. Otherwise he will be lost in a close game, and get his stats in blowouts where the game is looser. Randle can go 1-10 from the field with 6 TOs and still serve value to Barrett as the attention will remain on him in a way that no one else on this team deserves.

smackeddog wrote:CP of Knicks fan tv said he'd heard from his source that the Knicks were looking at trading Randle 2 weeks ago (which was over a week after the whole thumbs down stuff), and said his source said "don't be surprised if he's traded at the deadline or the summer" (his tone seemed to be pretty firm)

I agree with keeping EF but off the bench. Start grimes and iq. Is that his name CP? Always liked his perspectives.