Knicks · The NBA summer of fun!……..2022 (DRAFT, FA, Trades) (page 41)

Nalod @ 7/5/2022 12:23 PM
martin wrote:Interesting prospect but Knicks roster already packed

Very good move on a talented kid who will get a chance to put in minutes and show his worth. TJ is very good player but teams would and should be wary of his injuries.
Curious if Nash sticks it out. Does he want the opportunity to really coach now?

Also in the summer of fun..........Atkinson moved on from Charlotte knowing Miles Bridges was a ticking time bomb? Did he find Lamelo to be a bit of a young diva and deal with Lavar and that nonsense?
Was he told he'd be in Kerr's shoes in two years and really he is developing the yoot for himself going foward?
I saw met with Jordan after Atkinson rescinded his acceptance but no mention of why he did not step into the role. He was seen as the close runner up to Atkinson. Could be the same reason Kenny back out?

martin @ 7/5/2022 12:53 PM
Nalod wrote:
martin wrote:Interesting prospect but Knicks roster already packed

Very good move on a talented kid who will get a chance to put in minutes and show his worth. TJ is very good player but teams would and should be wary of his injuries.
Curious if Nash sticks it out. Does he want the opportunity to really coach now?

Also in the summer of fun..........Atkinson moved on from Charlotte knowing Miles Bridges was a ticking time bomb? Did he find Lamelo to be a bit of a young diva and deal with Lavar and that nonsense?
Was he told he'd be in Kerr's shoes in two years and really he is developing the yoot for himself going foward?
I saw met with Jordan after Atkinson rescinded his acceptance but no mention of why he did not step into the role. He was seen as the close runner up to Atkinson. Could be the same reason Kenny back out?

Good catch, hadn’t thought about that

smackeddog @ 7/5/2022 2:41 PM
Bleacher report saying Bullock posting pics of him mentioning the sixers or something on IG (I'm not on IG, I don't understand how it works or what it means)- wondering if the Mavs are trading him there
Nalod @ 7/5/2022 3:05 PM
Who was it here? NYMentality who said Frank would never play for another NBA team again?
Dallas seems intent on picking up his year two contract.
Once a MaverKnick, always a MaverKnick!
EwingsGlass @ 7/5/2022 3:54 PM
Nalod wrote:Who was it here? NYMentality who said Frank would never play for another NBA team again?
Dallas seems intent on picking up his year two contract.
Once a MaverKnick, always a MaverKnick!

Well, they could become PistKnicks without too much trouble.

Nalod @ 7/5/2022 4:06 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
Nalod wrote:Who was it here? NYMentality who said Frank would never play for another NBA team again?
Dallas seems intent on picking up his year two contract.
Once a MaverKnick, always a MaverKnick!

Well, they could become PistKnicks without too much trouble.



If only pistons used cap space to go after frankie!!!!
Swishfm3 @ 7/5/2022 8:11 PM
A little late on this but Donte DiVincenzo signing with the Warriors is a steal for them. Wow
wargames @ 7/5/2022 9:18 PM
Swishfm3 wrote:A little late on this but Donte DiVincenzo signing with the Warriors is a steal for them. Wow

If he is healthy. I was hoping we could grab him but honestly him going to the warriors on a show and prove two year contract with a player option makes sense.

wargames @ 7/5/2022 9:19 PM
Side note I would say FA is done but none of the reporters around the Knicks have tweeted they heard they were done so who knows.
martin @ 7/5/2022 9:39 PM
wargames wrote:Side note I would say FA is done but none of the reporters around the Knicks have tweeted they heard they were done so who knows.

Yeah literally think Aston and Durant holding up entire league.

wargames @ 7/5/2022 10:15 PM
martin wrote:
wargames wrote:Side note I would say FA is done but none of the reporters around the Knicks have tweeted they heard they were done so who knows.

Yeah literally think Aston and Durant holding up entire league.

Yeah a few trade happened, but I could definitely see more happening, for what has been a relatively weak FA and draft, trades are the best way to improve the team. Maybe tomorrow once teams have guys officially signed we’ll see the big names get traded.

It would be sick if KD goes back to the warriors, but at least our core is young enough to wait them out.

smackeddog @ 7/6/2022 4:00 AM
Is today the end of the Moratorium? If so, guess we learn for sure if Mavs decided not to do a sign and trade?
Clean @ 7/6/2022 6:54 AM
martin @ 7/6/2022 7:38 AM
smackeddog wrote:Is today the end of the Moratorium? If so, guess we learn for sure if Mavs decided not to do a sign and trade?

Noon ET today

martin @ 7/6/2022 8:01 AM
BigDaddyG @ 7/6/2022 10:23 AM
Old Hollinger article written prior to free agency using some formula he created. If you read this, it seems the Knicks did good in free agency.
https://theathletic.com/3351204/2022/06/...

7. Jalen Brunson, PG, Dallas: $29,371,294

Brunson’s strong playoff run for the Mavericks seemingly silenced some of the chatter that A) Dallas might be willing to let him walk, and B) another team could get him for well below the max. Now it seems like any serious offer would have to be for at least $100 million over the next four years, somewhat limiting the potential suitors given the greater difficulty of meeting that threshold in a sign-and-trade. (If you’re wondering about the Knicks, for instance, they’d have to dangle a lot of not terribly desirable filler in front of the Mavs to get a deal done. Good luck with that.)

As a small guard coming off a career year, this BORD$ valuation is likely at the high end of where the league sees Brunson, but he should be able to get into the $25 million a year range.

The more interesting question is what this might do for Dallas’ plans. Increasing his salary from last year’s paltry $1.8 million to such a princely sum will also put the Mavs about $30 million over the luxury-tax line and produce a whopping $85 million check to the league. Something’s gotta give here.

11. Mitchell Robinson, C, New York (restricted): $18,862,212

Robinson supported the idea of paying him like a starting five by staying in the lineup for 72 games last season; the 7-footer also is in the rare position of being an unrestricted free agent at just 24 years old. His athleticism is such that he shoots 72.2 percent for his career and has blocked 7.7 percent of opponent shots in that time, making him an ideal candidate for the shot-blocker/rim-runner role.

So what’s the hold-up? There’s some concern that Robinson has bulked up too much (playing last year at 270 pounds) and that it’s taken away some of the bounciness that had been his best attribute. Additionally, with no skill level or shooting range to speak of, Robinson can be a very limited option offensively, with last season’s 11.4 percent usage rate serving as a prime example.

Overall, I’ll take the under on his BORD$ estimate, even with the upside of his age, but I do think he settles into a deal not too far below this amount annually.

martin @ 7/6/2022 11:21 AM
Odd decision to not use Bledsoe and assets for someone?

joec32033 @ 7/6/2022 11:43 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:Old Hollinger article written prior to free agency using some formula he created. If you read this, it seems the Knicks did good in free agency.
https://theathletic.com/3351204/2022/06/...

7. Jalen Brunson, PG, Dallas: $29,371,294

Brunson’s strong playoff run for the Mavericks seemingly silenced some of the chatter that A) Dallas might be willing to let him walk, and B) another team could get him for well below the max. Now it seems like any serious offer would have to be for at least $100 million over the next four years, somewhat limiting the potential suitors given the greater difficulty of meeting that threshold in a sign-and-trade. (If you’re wondering about the Knicks, for instance, they’d have to dangle a lot of not terribly desirable filler in front of the Mavs to get a deal done. Good luck with that.)

As a small guard coming off a career year, this BORD$ valuation is likely at the high end of where the league sees Brunson, but he should be able to get into the $25 million a year range.

The more interesting question is what this might do for Dallas’ plans. Increasing his salary from last year’s paltry $1.8 million to such a princely sum will also put the Mavs about $30 million over the luxury-tax line and produce a whopping $85 million check to the league. Something’s gotta give here.

11. Mitchell Robinson, C, New York (restricted): $18,862,212

Robinson supported the idea of paying him like a starting five by staying in the lineup for 72 games last season; the 7-footer also is in the rare position of being an unrestricted free agent at just 24 years old. His athleticism is such that he shoots 72.2 percent for his career and has blocked 7.7 percent of opponent shots in that time, making him an ideal candidate for the shot-blocker/rim-runner role.

So what’s the hold-up? There’s some concern that Robinson has bulked up too much (playing last year at 270 pounds) and that it’s taken away some of the bounciness that had been his best attribute. Additionally, with no skill level or shooting range to speak of, Robinson can be a very limited option offensively, with last season’s 11.4 percent usage rate serving as a prime example.

Overall, I’ll take the under on his BORD$ estimate, even with the upside of his age, but I do think he settles into a deal not too far below this amount annually.

No worries. They will amend that after they actually sign. They will have over paid Brunson (even though a $100 mil contract was predicted) and overpaid an injury prone center.

smackeddog @ 7/6/2022 12:51 PM
martin wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Is today the end of the Moratorium? If so, guess we learn for sure if Mavs decided not to do a sign and trade?

Noon ET today

Thanks!

smackeddog @ 7/6/2022 12:52 PM
Clean wrote:

I can't take the Kemba Walker saga all over again!

Clean @ 7/6/2022 1:09 PM

A lot of good info in here. We might be getting more assets from this sign and trade with the Mavs. We don't need to do a sign and trade so we have all the leverage. IF the Mavs want that TPE they will have to give us a 2nd rounder pick or 2.

Also that we want to extend RJ. The real info from the RJ part is that they don't want to pay him the max. If you read between the lines when he says a number that is comfortable to both sides. Everything sounds good to me.

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