martin wrote:Durant for Wiggins, Poole, Kuminga, Wiseman, MoodyWho says no?
Jeeze that’s insane. Wow.
As much as I would hate KD on the Warriors again I have to admit that package looks way better than the trash the Suns and Heat wanted to give the Nets.
smackeddog wrote:martin wrote:Durant for Wiggins, Poole, Kuminga, Wiseman, MoodyWho says no?
Draymond Green
How many first rounders they throwing in?
Nets should take that warriors offer…
Swishfm3 wrote:Caseloads wrote:TPercy wrote:HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH LZZZZZZZZZZ KNICKS WILL ALWAYS RULE NY!!!With that out the way. Tell RJ to pack a bag.
no way on ditching RJ
this is absurd
1. No way the nets trade KD to us
2. KD is 33 with a ton of mileage on his body
3. KD has already shown he can’t handle New York. He’s running away from the nets and literally the only people who follow the nets are Richard Jefferson and a couple other cable tv pundits
The Nets will get value back on assets for KD. KD has proven (when healthy) that he’s as good as anyone in the league. Certainly worth a few high upside young players and picks.
The GSW names listed seem pretty good. On paper Wiseman and Kuminga sound like awesome pieces - I’m not sold on either as future stars. If there’s anyone the Nets should request is Poole - he plays like a splash brother and would do well as a dynamic combo guard with Nash.
The more problematic piece for the Nets is Kyrie. I reckon you take what you can get, and just be happy his salary is off the books and that you’re no longer handcuffed by his quirky choices in life.
You know he’s not single-mindedly thinking about a championship. For $30-40m/year, you’d think you’d be buying complete dedication to the cause. Instead he’s a millennial, worrying about his feelings and supporting causes beyond himself.
(The best offer on the table is Westbrook - another problematic piece)
technomaster wrote:The Nets will get value back on assets for KD. KD has proven (when healthy) that he’s as good as anyone in the league. Certainly worth a few high upside young players and picks.The GSW names listed seem pretty good. On paper Wiseman and Kuminga sound like awesome pieces - I’m not sold on either as future stars. If there’s anyone the Nets should request is Poole - he plays like a splash brother and would do well as a dynamic combo guard with Nash.
Wiggins is on a rookie max extension. He can't be traded to the Nets as long as Ben Simmons is there. It has to be a three team or four team deal where Simmons gets dumped.
I can see the Warriors moving Poole and Wiseman, I don't see them moving Kuminga and Moody, that's too much cost controlled depth.
The Dubs are in a prime position to win another ring next year. Why would they rock that boat now? They can still trade Poole and Wiggins at the end of next season. Wiseman too after he hopefully lifts up his value some. Wiggins is a legitimate first option on wing defense to cover the opponents best scorer. I don't see why the Warriors risk losing that when it's clear Durant is aging and not a guarantee to be healthy.
Where KD fits on the Warriors as of today is actually as a center. But they resigned Looney.
It just doesn't add up very well. I think Detroit is a much more practical option for assets.
If the Warriors say they are open to Durant coming back, then mean as a ring chaser down the road. After the Dubs win a couple of more rings in the next four years.
If the Dubs could just trade Poole and Wiseman, I think they'd do it, but the money doesn't add up.
martin wrote:Durant for Wiggins, Poole, Kuminga, Wiseman, MoodyWho says no?
NO WAY NO HOW Gs already champs. They could get better as is and do it again. But with Kuminga Wiseman Poole moody they are set up for NEXT generation winning. It would be a foolish trade. Keep the boat steady. Its like being married---keep the eyes focused on your own home.
BRIGGS wrote:martin wrote:Durant for Wiggins, Poole, Kuminga, Wiseman, MoodyWho says no?
NO WAY NO HOW Gs already champs. They could get better as is and do it again. But with Kuminga Wiseman Poole moody they are set up for NEXT generation winning. It would be a foolish trade. Keep the boat steady. Its like being married---keep the eyes focused on your own home.
wiggins can't be traded because of simmions is on the roster
houston20 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:martin wrote:Durant for Wiggins, Poole, Kuminga, Wiseman, MoodyWho says no?
NO WAY NO HOW Gs already champs. They could get better as is and do it again. But with Kuminga Wiseman Poole moody they are set up for NEXT generation winning. It would be a foolish trade. Keep the boat steady. Its like being married---keep the eyes focused on your own home.
wiggins can't be traded because of simmions is on the roster
Man, that Simmons is a disaster- as well as all his other issues and questions as to whether he can/will play again, his horrific contract, he's now blocking a deal with the Heat (Bam), Jazz (D-Mitch) and Warriors.
is that warriors a legit offer?
LAst time warriors lost a finals was with Durant as part of the core.
My take is GSW’s plan was to use the tank window to retool then develop for the next gen.
Way too early to give up on that and facts are the rooks are still inexpensive. Lets Be real one of dray or Klay will drop off due to age and injury as will their contract.
Steph is transforming the body and looking more like CP3 type run for a few years. Hard to say.
This past season was a bit of a surprise and while chips are the goal I never thought Klay was good enough coming back this year to pull it off. That wiggins stepped up as he did was pretty cool and the difference maker.
Nalod wrote:is that warriors a legit offer?
LAst time warriors lost a finals was with Durant as part of the core.
My take is GSW’s plan was to use the tank window to retool then develop for the next gen.
Way too early to give up on that and facts are the rooks are still inexpensive. Lets Be real one of dray or Klay will drop off due to age and injury as will their contract.
Steph is transforming the body and looking more like CP3 type run for a few years. Hard to say. This past season was a bit of a surprise and while chips are the goal I never thought Klay was good enough coming back this year to pull it off. That wiggins stepped up as he did was pretty cool and the difference maker.
If that’s a real offer, the Nets need to pull the trigger ASAP. They’ll be a far better version of the likable they were just before KD and Irving arrived. On the flip-side, the Warriors would be uncharacteristically stupid AF if they made that deal. That’s the type of trade you make for a young KD. Not an older than 30 with an injury history KD.
Would that pussbag KD even accept a trade back to GSW? Dude has zero self respect!
I'd actually pass on bringing him back if I'm GSW. I would prefer to keep Wiggins and Poole and have Kuminga and Wiseman waiting in the wings for the future. First sign of inconvenience or jealousy, KD will ask for another trade.
Allanfan20 wrote:Nalod wrote:is that warriors a legit offer?
LAst time warriors lost a finals was with Durant as part of the core.
My take is GSW’s plan was to use the tank window to retool then develop for the next gen.
Way too early to give up on that and facts are the rooks are still inexpensive. Lets Be real one of dray or Klay will drop off due to age and injury as will their contract.
Steph is transforming the body and looking more like CP3 type run for a few years. Hard to say. This past season was a bit of a surprise and while chips are the goal I never thought Klay was good enough coming back this year to pull it off. That wiggins stepped up as he did was pretty cool and the difference maker.
If that’s a real offer, the Nets need to pull the trigger ASAP. They’ll be a far better version of the likable they were just before KD and Irving arrived. On the flip-side, the Warriors would be uncharacteristically stupid AF if they made that deal. That’s the type of trade you make for a young KD. Not an older than 30 with an injury history KD.
I don't have not read its a real offer and its how fans perpetuate falsehoods.
By some here we'd dump Randle as somehow rejecting booing is worse than beating the crap out of you wife IN front of you kids!
Hearing some rumors the Raptors want to get involved. They won a chip with Kawhi so maybe they are looking to try again with KD.
Allanfan20 wrote:martin wrote:Durant for Wiggins, Poole, Kuminga, Wiseman, MoodyWho says no?
Jeeze that’s insane. Wow.
I don't think GSW does that deal.
KD is great and all, but you are taking a team that needs depth to protect against injury and trading their starting SF and their entire bench for another HOF player. I mean, right now, all that does is take shots from Curry.
And yeah, they could fill in that bench again with vet min contracts, but I mean, if I had Moody/Poole/Kuminga/Wiseman as my second unit, I'd feel pretty good for the continuing generation. Hell, I'd probably take those 4 over my entire roster. At some point, GSW has to be worried about payroll.
How bad is Ben Simmons that KD did not want to even consider running it back with him and Kyrie.
EwingsGlass wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:martin wrote:Durant for Wiggins, Poole, Kuminga, Wiseman, MoodyWho says no?
Jeeze that’s insane. Wow.
I don't think GSW does that deal.
KD is great and all, but you are taking a team that needs depth to protect against injury and trading their starting SF and their entire bench for another HOF player. I mean, right now, all that does is take shots from Curry.
And yeah, they could fill in that bench again with vet min contracts, but I mean, if I had Moody/Poole/Kuminga/Wiseman as my second unit, I'd feel pretty good for the continuing generation. Hell, I'd probably take those 4 over my entire roster. At some point, GSW has to be worried about payroll.
If it ain’t broke….
And coming off the championship I’d say it ain’t.