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martin @ 5/24/2023 10:13 AM
Nalod wrote:
Knixkik wrote:I saw steve nash was interviewed by Toronto. If they are headed towards a rebuild I can definitely see it. I wonder if they would move Siakam to Portland for Simons and #3 and draft him a PG to develop in Scoot, then move OG to the Knicks for his godson RJ. Henderson, Simons, Barrett, Barnes, Poeltl starting 5.

Interesting concept.
The fact they moved from Nurse and Massai did not make any quick deals at deadline makes me think they are thinking its more about what a new coach can do with their core and move from their. siakim for the 3 and Simons is interesting. As for RJ, thats for Ujiri to decide. OG to me is not enough of an upgrade and have to consider OG extension is coming up next year. I know RJ calls Canada home and thats a good marketing thing for both him and the team as well as Nash.

Ujiri also has to make sure OG doesn’t Brunson him.

OG was all defensive second team who is also a floor spacer. How is that not enough of an upgrade?

Nalod @ 5/24/2023 10:19 AM
martin wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Knixkik wrote:I saw steve nash was interviewed by Toronto. If they are headed towards a rebuild I can definitely see it. I wonder if they would move Siakam to Portland for Simons and #3 and draft him a PG to develop in Scoot, then move OG to the Knicks for his godson RJ. Henderson, Simons, Barrett, Barnes, Poeltl starting 5.

Interesting concept.
The fact they moved from Nurse and Massai did not make any quick deals at deadline makes me think they are thinking its more about what a new coach can do with their core and move from their. siakim for the 3 and Simons is interesting. As for RJ, thats for Ujiri to decide. OG to me is not enough of an upgrade and have to consider OG extension is coming up next year. I know RJ calls Canada home and thats a good marketing thing for both him and the team as well as Nash.

Ujiri also has to make sure OG doesn’t Brunson him.

OG was all defensive second team who is also a floor spacer. How is that not enough of an upgrade?

“RJ is 22”………..Peter Pan ceiling is still undetermined. RJ is very polarizing for many fans. I get it.
We been thru this manytimes.

martin @ 5/24/2023 11:09 AM
Nalod wrote:
martin wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Knixkik wrote:I saw steve nash was interviewed by Toronto. If they are headed towards a rebuild I can definitely see it. I wonder if they would move Siakam to Portland for Simons and #3 and draft him a PG to develop in Scoot, then move OG to the Knicks for his godson RJ. Henderson, Simons, Barrett, Barnes, Poeltl starting 5.

Interesting concept.
The fact they moved from Nurse and Massai did not make any quick deals at deadline makes me think they are thinking its more about what a new coach can do with their core and move from their. siakim for the 3 and Simons is interesting. As for RJ, thats for Ujiri to decide. OG to me is not enough of an upgrade and have to consider OG extension is coming up next year. I know RJ calls Canada home and thats a good marketing thing for both him and the team as well as Nash.

Ujiri also has to make sure OG doesn’t Brunson him.

OG was all defensive second team who is also a floor spacer. How is that not enough of an upgrade?

“RJ is 22”………..Peter Pan ceiling is still undetermined. RJ is very polarizing for many fans. I get it.
We been thru this manytimes.

Is "RJ is 22" the Knicks fans version of the "hopes and prayers" line? I am being facetious of course and the 2 are not nearly equatable.

At some point it has to be tangible, and not just for a a couple of games or a month's worth of shooting while surrounded by months of below average stuff.

ToddTT @ 5/24/2023 11:40 AM
martin @ 5/25/2023 2:30 PM
LOVE IT

Clean @ 5/25/2023 2:48 PM
martin wrote:LOVE IT

Now this has me intrigued. It all depends on if they actually call it. They tried for like half a season with the fines then gave up. I might actually enjoy the NBA as much as I did back in the days if this actually stops the flops. Any time a player decides to stop making a basketball move to instead flop the NBA gets worse to me.

Chandler @ 5/25/2023 3:02 PM
^^ sounds good but i think they will need more like post game assessments and after the game technical foul-like penalties. Reason being that it's super tough to catch some flops when the flopper knows what he's doing. they just exaggerate the response to actual contact.

during the game i can see the tech being called for the egregious flops to the ghost contact, but for the skilled flops they might need more itme to identify that

martin @ 5/25/2023 3:32 PM
Chandler wrote:^^ sounds good but i think they will need more like post game assessments and after the game technical foul-like penalties. Reason being that it's super tough to catch some flops when the flopper knows what he's doing. they just exaggerate the response to actual contact.

during the game i can see the tech being called for the egregious flops to the ghost contact, but for the skilled flops they might need more itme to identify that

Yes to this. And the techs can and will add up over season to the tune of missed games. Hopefully.

SergioNYK @ 5/26/2023 9:20 AM
I don't have any faith in this experiment. Some flops are so obvious and the zebras still call them. Especially when a guy is posting up and the defender acts like he just got hit by a train. It's ridiculous and I'm glad none of our players do it. The other ones that make no sense are big dudes fighting through screens and flop when they are being picked by a guy who is 30 pounds lighter. So dumb!
Nalod @ 5/26/2023 9:25 AM
SergioNYK wrote:I don't have any faith in this experiment. Some flops are so obvious and the zebras still call them. Especially when a guy is posting up and the defender acts like he just got hit by a train. It's ridiculous and I'm glad none of our players do it. The other ones that make no sense are big dudes fighting through screens and flop when they are being picked by a guy who is 30 pounds lighter. So dumb!


Josh Hart is a very good flopper. He gets hit he is like a wrestler in reaction. Quick is pretty good at drawing fouls but neither are obnoxious. There is an art form to it. If its overt, its a bad look. Jules is pretty bad at it. He gets hit, he complains. JB is so active I think refs have a hard time calling him.

Yes, Lebron is quite the flopper!!!

LivingLegend @ 5/26/2023 12:07 PM
Flop should count as a personal foul and 2 shots - that would curb the issue but more pressing issue is offensive flopping which I hope this new rule would include.

Also - please the rid of the rip thru fouls - those are garbage and completely reward offensive player for indicating unwarranted contact.

martin @ 5/26/2023 1:26 PM
LivingLegend wrote:Flop should count as a personal foul and 2 shots - that would curb the issue but more pressing issue is offensive flopping which I hope this new rule would include.

Also - please the rid of the rip thru fouls - those are garbage and completely reward offensive player for indicating unwarranted contact.

Yes please

Clean @ 5/26/2023 9:03 PM

I got a laugh out of this but I have a feeling its true.

Philc1 @ 5/27/2023 7:12 AM
martin wrote:LOVE IT

Thank God Kristaps is no longer a Knick

Philc1 @ 5/27/2023 7:13 AM
LivingLegend wrote:Flop should count as a personal foul and 2 shots - that would curb the issue but more pressing issue is offensive flopping which I hope this new rule would include.

Also - please the rid of the rip thru fouls - those are garbage and completely reward offensive player for indicating unwarranted contact.

Just what we need another entirely subjective call that crooked refs can use in their toolkit to decide outcomes of games for bookies

Nalod @ 5/27/2023 2:24 PM
Philc1 wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:Flop should count as a personal foul and 2 shots - that would curb the issue but more pressing issue is offensive flopping which I hope this new rule would include.

Also - please the rid of the rip thru fouls - those are garbage and completely reward offensive player for indicating unwarranted contact.

Just what we need another entirely subjective call that crooked refs can use in their toolkit to decide outcomes of games for bookies

and another excuse for lazy ass fans who don't think Refs are held accountable for their calls, are reviewed and scored based on accuracy.

Incentive.

The aggregate value of the NBA franchises is about 90Billion dollars. They generate about 10billion a year in revenue.
That market cap puts it about the size of Citigroup, or say about 90th or less in the S&P 500 if it was a stand alone company.
I know math is lost on you as you seem to not have demonstrated how to digest it other than parrot others statements when it suites your argument.

So you're not lost, the bigger the company the lower the number. For example Apple is the largest. It would be number one. The 500th would be the smallest. So 90th puts it win the top quintile. Thats top 5th. Or, some say top 20%. Sorry if others are rolling their eyes at this basic depiction.

But one conspiracy type dude thinks the NBA does not monitor its Refs and how it would affect gambling, or the quality your mistaken.
Tim Donaghy was discovered, and went to jail.
Were there others? Lets assume so. Would the NBA broadcast if another ref were to go rogue? Doubt it. So fans, even lazy ones would not know. Lets just assume its in their best interests to make sure the integrity of its product is maintained even if just for the greater good of greed. When unexplainable things happen its the short bus of us that tilt to "If I can't explain it, it must be conspiratorial". Thats actually a big word I doubt you'd use.
The sport, the revenue, all would blow up if the league were to not keep its product as pure as possible.
If there are credible reporting that lends itself to "crooked Refs" pleas pass it on.
Prove me wrong. My ego can handle it.

martin @ 5/29/2023 11:07 AM
😬

Chandler @ 5/29/2023 1:18 PM
no ill will on Lonzo. But 82 games is tough

i think a lot of the string bean types have difficulty with the volume and intensity of NBA games

hopefully if he does retire he will at least have reasonably good normal mobility to enjoy life after basketball

Clean @ 5/29/2023 3:45 PM
Chandler wrote:no ill will on Lonzo. But 82 games is tough

i think a lot of the string bean types have difficulty with the volume and intensity of NBA games

hopefully if he does retire he will at least have reasonably good normal mobility to enjoy life after basketball

I think it was his cheap sneakers.

Philc1 @ 5/30/2023 7:43 AM
Clean wrote:
Chandler wrote:no ill will on Lonzo. But 82 games is tough

i think a lot of the string bean types have difficulty with the volume and intensity of NBA games

hopefully if he does retire he will at least have reasonably good normal mobility to enjoy life after basketball

I think it was his cheap sneakers.

Bullet dodged.

Nalod @ 5/30/2023 8:56 AM
Bad dad part 5: The shoes. The Dad Ball pushed the shoe and tried to change the landscape. It will be a movie one day.
The Karma of what Lavar tried to do with BBB the very thing that grounds Lonzo? The money came, but the kid is injured. Its a classic tragic story. The dad went to far and tried to monetize his son. Lonzo put in the work. Got to the NBA and earned that contract thru blood, sweat and tears. Not to say Lavar was evil. He just went to far. Stage dad syndrome.

That Lamelo is as good as he his given his path seems unlikely. His play lived up to the hype thus far.

Dodged a bullet? I don’t recall any rumors, just some chatter among fans thinking he’d be a good player here. He signed pretty darn quick with the Bulls. Didn’t they get a bit dinged for tampering?

Starbury kicks were god awful. I ordered a pair. Why? Curious at that price. The style was subjective so I won’t comment but the support level and cushion was awful. I can only imagine wearing them with an insert. I used them to powerwash my deck and driveway. The man made uppers kept my feet dry. Did Starburys contribute to Marbles fast demise in the aftermath of its release?

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