Knicks · Brunson is a star player (page 4)

HofstraBBall wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Hes been building up under the radar sincc he came into NBA and really revealed in last years playoffs. Hes going to stabilize and correct some woes we had last year. our differential will change and we will get many more Ws

Stars can take over a game, by themselves, at a consistent basis.
JB came in to the garden and looked meh. He had a couple of games where he looked like a star,without LD's help, in the playoffs. He would have to do that A LOT more to be considered a star.
Keep in mind, on a team like the Knicks he will be focused on more defensively then when he played alongside one of the best players on the planet

Was cautious when we signed him. Cautious with high expectations. Worried about his score first mentality and how it would fit with RJ and Randle.
Pleasantly surprised with his offensive ability and shooting accuracy early on. Think he is a bull and has heart. Still worried about him being too much shoot first. Worried about his size vs taller elite PG's. Think we are still MUCH better than we have been for a long time at that spot.
Hoping he is able to add more creation for others and can elevate his game against the better teams.

Yep. I like his interactions with Mitch in the early going, tho it could improve. I can see Grimes, Fournier, Rose and IQ forming better chemistry with JB as the season progresses. Randle and RJ? We'll see...

Brunson penetrates at will and gets to his spot in the low post. From there he does his herky- jerky spin cycle and gets his shot off. Or continues on the baseline to the other side. What I have not seen him do is kick it out from the low post to a shooter behind the 3 point line. That inside - out style is old school and is much harder to guard than if we are passing it around the 3 point line. Plus those plays may lead to hockey assists when the opposing team is forced to help the helper. Also, if he draws a great defender in( like Murray) then that's one less guy covering the perimeter. We should have plays like that tho in our playbook.

Did anyone else think the Atlanta game was the NBA's two worst PG hair dos?

Panos wrote:Did anyone else think the Atlanta game was the NBA's two worst PG hair dos?

Modok and Kramer from Seinfeld.

BigDaddyG wrote:

Panos wrote:Did anyone else think the Atlanta game was the NBA's two worst PG hair dos?

Modok and Kramer from Seinfeld.

Not the other Kramer?

ToddTT wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

Panos wrote:Did anyone else think the Atlanta game was the NBA's two worst PG hair dos?

Modok and Kramer from Seinfeld.

Not the other Kramer?

The one who lost to Kramer in that movie?

ramtour420 wrote:Brunson penetrates at will and gets to his spot in the low post. From there he does his herky- jerky spin cycle and gets his shot off. Or continues on the baseline to the other side. What I have not seen him do is kick it out from the low post to a shooter behind the 3 point line. That inside - out style is old school and is much harder to guard than if we are passing it around the 3 point line. Plus those plays may lead to hockey assists when the opposing team is forced to help the helper. Also, if he draws a great defender in( like Murray) then that's one less guy covering the perimeter. We should have plays like that tho in our playbook.

Well put. Brunson has to work harder to make his teamates better. That and the poor D is a driver of our losing streak IMO.

EwingsGlass wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:History has shown that you dont need a star PG to win a chip' . Brunson is better than some past starting championship PGs. Brunson might develop into a star PG, but right now he gives us a level of competency and consistency we havent seen in a long time. Gives the Knicks the ability to move to the next level.

Steve nash was mvp twice. While he isnt going to have 10-12 assists---and what will differentiate him from lowry etc.. is Brunson is an efficient player. Lets let in play out.

so Brunson is now Steve Nash? or Magic Johnson? or Stephen Curry? or a pre-injury Derrick Rose? or Oscar Robertson? or Bob Cousy? or even pre-Westbrick Russell Westbrook?

those are the dudes that won MVP in this league that were points. To be clear, that's seven names in league history. You think that Brunson deserves to be on that list after a good walk year and a great playoffs? What did you think of the Jerome James signing?

You’re comparing Brunson to a fat center Isiah stupidly signed because he had 2 good playoff games?

Thats what you got from that comment?
I’ll help you, he is insinuating there are over reactions from fans. I have read some very strong expectations about Brunson given the two preseason outings.
We know the drill. Teams will adjust and then we’ll blame Thibs for not being good enough but thinking someone else will be. The old “execution vs adjustment” thing.
Teams will figure out how to stop Jalen. Then its up to others to execute and drop shots.
We have played two week teams and we up to 50 wins by some yet?

You assume there is a way to stop Brunson...clearly the flaw in your reasoning.

see, apparently this the way I should have looked at the situation out of the gate. I still think he has a long way to go to be considered an NBA great... but to me, he's already equaled Amar'e Stoudemire's Knicks contributions. Brunson is already one of the top 25 players in Knicks history and before long he will climb quite high on that list

SupremeCommander wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:History has shown that you dont need a star PG to win a chip' . Brunson is better than some past starting championship PGs. Brunson might develop into a star PG, but right now he gives us a level of competency and consistency we havent seen in a long time. Gives the Knicks the ability to move to the next level.

Steve nash was mvp twice. While he isnt going to have 10-12 assists---and what will differentiate him from lowry etc.. is Brunson is an efficient player. Lets let in play out.

so Brunson is now Steve Nash? or Magic Johnson? or Stephen Curry? or a pre-injury Derrick Rose? or Oscar Robertson? or Bob Cousy? or even pre-Westbrick Russell Westbrook?

those are the dudes that won MVP in this league that were points. To be clear, that's seven names in league history. You think that Brunson deserves to be on that list after a good walk year and a great playoffs? What did you think of the Jerome James signing?

You’re comparing Brunson to a fat center Isiah stupidly signed because he had 2 good playoff games?

Thats what you got from that comment?
I’ll help you, he is insinuating there are over reactions from fans. I have read some very strong expectations about Brunson given the two preseason outings.
We know the drill. Teams will adjust and then we’ll blame Thibs for not being good enough but thinking someone else will be. The old “execution vs adjustment” thing.
Teams will figure out how to stop Jalen. Then its up to others to execute and drop shots.
We have played two week teams and we up to 50 wins by some yet?

You assume there is a way to stop Brunson...clearly the flaw in your reasoning.

see, apparently this the way I should have looked at the situation out of the gate. I still think he has a long way to go to be considered an NBA great... but to me, he's already equaled Amar'e Stoudemire's Knicks contributions. Brunson is already one of the top 25 players in Knicks history and before long he will climb quite high on that list

What about Jerome James?

Philc1 wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:History has shown that you dont need a star PG to win a chip' . Brunson is better than some past starting championship PGs. Brunson might develop into a star PG, but right now he gives us a level of competency and consistency we havent seen in a long time. Gives the Knicks the ability to move to the next level.

Steve nash was mvp twice. While he isnt going to have 10-12 assists---and what will differentiate him from lowry etc.. is Brunson is an efficient player. Lets let in play out.

so Brunson is now Steve Nash? or Magic Johnson? or Stephen Curry? or a pre-injury Derrick Rose? or Oscar Robertson? or Bob Cousy? or even pre-Westbrick Russell Westbrook?

those are the dudes that won MVP in this league that were points. To be clear, that's seven names in league history. You think that Brunson deserves to be on that list after a good walk year and a great playoffs? What did you think of the Jerome James signing?

You’re comparing Brunson to a fat center Isiah stupidly signed because he had 2 good playoff games?

Thats what you got from that comment?
I’ll help you, he is insinuating there are over reactions from fans. I have read some very strong expectations about Brunson given the two preseason outings.
We know the drill. Teams will adjust and then we’ll blame Thibs for not being good enough but thinking someone else will be. The old “execution vs adjustment” thing.
Teams will figure out how to stop Jalen. Then its up to others to execute and drop shots.
We have played two week teams and we up to 50 wins by some yet?

You assume there is a way to stop Brunson...clearly the flaw in your reasoning.

see, apparently this the way I should have looked at the situation out of the gate. I still think he has a long way to go to be considered an NBA great... but to me, he's already equaled Amar'e Stoudemire's Knicks contributions. Brunson is already one of the top 25 players in Knicks history and before long he will climb quite high on that list

What about Jerome James?

he is a Viking King that will take his seat in the halls of Valhalla

SupremeCommander wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:History has shown that you dont need a star PG to win a chip' . Brunson is better than some past starting championship PGs. Brunson might develop into a star PG, but right now he gives us a level of competency and consistency we havent seen in a long time. Gives the Knicks the ability to move to the next level.

Steve nash was mvp twice. While he isnt going to have 10-12 assists---and what will differentiate him from lowry etc.. is Brunson is an efficient player. Lets let in play out.

so Brunson is now Steve Nash? or Magic Johnson? or Stephen Curry? or a pre-injury Derrick Rose? or Oscar Robertson? or Bob Cousy? or even pre-Westbrick Russell Westbrook?

those are the dudes that won MVP in this league that were points. To be clear, that's seven names in league history. You think that Brunson deserves to be on that list after a good walk year and a great playoffs? What did you think of the Jerome James signing?

You’re comparing Brunson to a fat center Isiah stupidly signed because he had 2 good playoff games?

Thats what you got from that comment?
I’ll help you, he is insinuating there are over reactions from fans. I have read some very strong expectations about Brunson given the two preseason outings.
We know the drill. Teams will adjust and then we’ll blame Thibs for not being good enough but thinking someone else will be. The old “execution vs adjustment” thing.
Teams will figure out how to stop Jalen. Then its up to others to execute and drop shots.
We have played two week teams and we up to 50 wins by some yet?

You assume there is a way to stop Brunson...clearly the flaw in your reasoning.

see, apparently this the way I should have looked at the situation out of the gate. I still think he has a long way to go to be considered an NBA great... but to me, he's already equaled Amar'e Stoudemire's Knicks contributions. Brunson is already one of the top 25 players in Knicks history and before long he will climb quite high on that list

What about Jerome James?

he is a Viking King that will take his seat in the halls of Valhalla

TRUTH!!!!

SupremeCommander wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:History has shown that you dont need a star PG to win a chip' . Brunson is better than some past starting championship PGs. Brunson might develop into a star PG, but right now he gives us a level of competency and consistency we havent seen in a long time. Gives the Knicks the ability to move to the next level.

Steve nash was mvp twice. While he isnt going to have 10-12 assists---and what will differentiate him from lowry etc.. is Brunson is an efficient player. Lets let in play out.

so Brunson is now Steve Nash? or Magic Johnson? or Stephen Curry? or a pre-injury Derrick Rose? or Oscar Robertson? or Bob Cousy? or even pre-Westbrick Russell Westbrook?

those are the dudes that won MVP in this league that were points. To be clear, that's seven names in league history. You think that Brunson deserves to be on that list after a good walk year and a great playoffs? What did you think of the Jerome James signing?

You’re comparing Brunson to a fat center Isiah stupidly signed because he had 2 good playoff games?

Thats what you got from that comment?
I’ll help you, he is insinuating there are over reactions from fans. I have read some very strong expectations about Brunson given the two preseason outings.
We know the drill. Teams will adjust and then we’ll blame Thibs for not being good enough but thinking someone else will be. The old “execution vs adjustment” thing.
Teams will figure out how to stop Jalen. Then its up to others to execute and drop shots.
We have played two week teams and we up to 50 wins by some yet?

You assume there is a way to stop Brunson...clearly the flaw in your reasoning.

see, apparently this the way I should have looked at the situation out of the gate. I still think he has a long way to go to be considered an NBA great... but to me, he's already equaled Amar'e Stoudemire's Knicks contributions. Brunson is already one of the top 25 players in Knicks history and before long he will climb quite high on that list

Q:Is this independent on what happens to his Knicks career from this day forward. Meaning will it stand if he stinks for the next 3 seasons?

Or does it rely on similar(ish) production through contract?

SupremeCommander wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:History has shown that you dont need a star PG to win a chip' . Brunson is better than some past starting championship PGs. Brunson might develop into a star PG, but right now he gives us a level of competency and consistency we havent seen in a long time. Gives the Knicks the ability to move to the next level.

Steve nash was mvp twice. While he isnt going to have 10-12 assists---and what will differentiate him from lowry etc.. is Brunson is an efficient player. Lets let in play out.

so Brunson is now Steve Nash? or Magic Johnson? or Stephen Curry? or a pre-injury Derrick Rose? or Oscar Robertson? or Bob Cousy? or even pre-Westbrick Russell Westbrook?

those are the dudes that won MVP in this league that were points. To be clear, that's seven names in league history. You think that Brunson deserves to be on that list after a good walk year and a great playoffs? What did you think of the Jerome James signing?

You’re comparing Brunson to a fat center Isiah stupidly signed because he had 2 good playoff games?

Thats what you got from that comment?
I’ll help you, he is insinuating there are over reactions from fans. I have read some very strong expectations about Brunson given the two preseason outings.
We know the drill. Teams will adjust and then we’ll blame Thibs for not being good enough but thinking someone else will be. The old “execution vs adjustment” thing.
Teams will figure out how to stop Jalen. Then its up to others to execute and drop shots.
We have played two week teams and we up to 50 wins by some yet?

You assume there is a way to stop Brunson...clearly the flaw in your reasoning.

see, apparently this the way I should have looked at the situation out of the gate. I still think he has a long way to go to be considered an NBA great... but to me, he's already equaled Amar'e Stoudemire's Knicks contributions. Brunson is already one of the top 25 players in Knicks history and before long he will climb quite high on that list

What about Jerome James?

he is a Viking King that will take his seat in the halls of Valhalla

Isiah finally vindicated!

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