Knicks · [Game Thread 1/18/23] Knicks vs Wizards 7:30PM (page 5)
ramtour420 wrote:I want assists. It's a measure of the gelling process. I want a lot of assists. We don't have Carmelo in his prime. We should have assists.
Our biggest problem by far is we have no great 3 point shooters on our roster. This problem won’t be solved during the season, maybe next offseason we trade for Trae
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If comebacks are just how the NBA is now how come we don't do it? We still running those inefficient ISO's? We still overusing the starters so they tired at the end of the game? My fault lets ignore the bad since we did well vs the not good teams. We have one of the hardest remaining schedules left. That means we had one of the easiest so far this season.We should have been using the soft part of the schedule to fix issues not to ignore them. Who am I to talk anyway I just make things up. I'll just disappear again with my gold stars for getting things right.
We are learning how to win. We are learning how we lose. We are a young team. We have a good coaching staff. There is a learning process. Winning is fun but every team has games like last night. On to the next one. Why always such a Debbie downer? This is what .500 looks like. BTW it's 1-14 after last night.
Why everyone's a Debbie downer? The 1-13 trailer at halftime, the 11-13 home record, the players looked real tired and aghausted in the last 3 games, plus our Knicks schedule says 11 game losing streak" !!!
Hopefully, this will be Tom Thibs final season as a Knicks.
jskinny35 wrote:SergioNYK wrote:Another bad loss at home. I got a bad feeling the Garden is going to cost us a playoff spot and we'll be forced to play in the play-in. We just have no home court advantage (11-13). Can we just play our home games at the new UBS?This was a fatigue type loss imo. We looked mentally drained. Probably from the Toronto loss. We started off this game sleep walking and couldn't make it up. Brunson tried to bring us back and we got close cutting it down to 7 I believe early in the fourth but give the Wizards credit. They played like the team that needed this game a lot more. They are honestly not a bad team when they are fully healthy. Beal, Kuzma and KP are no bums. And Kispert, Wright and Avdija chipped in. We really need to upgrade the bench scoring. Right now IQ is the only one giving us any offensive production.
Not much else you can say about this one. Low energy overall and poor defensive effort. Especially guarding the three. This team has a game every ten games or so where it just refuses to hustle and contest the three. Randle struggled with his shot for the second straight game. Robinson getting hurt stinks but it's to be expected.
We need a trade!
IMO it's more about the iso-style we play as it's tough to sustain and shoot at the needed clip every night. That's a big part of why I have been wanting to move away from Randle as Thibs seems determined to ride him or die trying. Randle being only good to very good limits us if he (and RJ and Brunson) take too many of the shots as they need to be spread out more. You don't need 5 iso guys to get Grimes more shots and Mitch a few more lobs.
To be fair Randle is trying his best and doing mostly what he's been asked to do. Think it's more of an offensive coaching philosophy-type issue IMO. Yes we don't have enough good players but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that moving the ball more makes you less predictable and harder to defend.
Great teams can get away with 1-2 sticky players if their best player is exceptional at Iso-ball... middle of the road teams (us) can't afford both Randle and RJ (and to a lesser degree Brunson) holding the ball as much - especially when the other starters are one kick out/spot up shooter (Grimes so far) and a C that doesn't shoot if it's not a dunk. It's like pickup games - taking turns going 1 on 1 and your teams best player is not even the best player on the court to begin with. Instead of thinking we need to add another ball dominant very good scorer/player (eg Lavine)... or thinking we add Bullock or Caruso to this group (would help some)... it's time to move away from this offensive style and move either Randle or RJ and try to replace them with a better player at their respective position. Trading away too much for an OG would help but we'd still struggle if RJ and Randle are both starting and dominating the ball too much. Unless they wake up one day and really increase their efficiency and reduce their streaky nature. Very unlikely.
So True !!!
jskinny35 wrote:SergioNYK wrote:Another bad loss at home. I got a bad feeling the Garden is going to cost us a playoff spot and we'll be forced to play in the play-in. We just have no home court advantage (11-13). Can we just play our home games at the new UBS?This was a fatigue type loss imo. We looked mentally drained. Probably from the Toronto loss. We started off this game sleep walking and couldn't make it up. Brunson tried to bring us back and we got close cutting it down to 7 I believe early in the fourth but give the Wizards credit. They played like the team that needed this game a lot more. They are honestly not a bad team when they are fully healthy. Beal, Kuzma and KP are no bums. And Kispert, Wright and Avdija chipped in. We really need to upgrade the bench scoring. Right now IQ is the only one giving us any offensive production.
Not much else you can say about this one. Low energy overall and poor defensive effort. Especially guarding the three. This team has a game every ten games or so where it just refuses to hustle and contest the three. Randle struggled with his shot for the second straight game. Robinson getting hurt stinks but it's to be expected.
We need a trade!
IMO it's more about the iso-style we play as it's tough to sustain and shoot at the needed clip every night. That's a big part of why I have been wanting to move away from Randle as Thibs seems determined to ride him or die trying. Randle being only good to very good limits us if he (and RJ and Brunson) take too many of the shots as they need to be spread out more. You don't need 5 iso guys to get Grimes more shots and Mitch a few more lobs.
To be fair Randle is trying his best and doing mostly what he's been asked to do. Think it's more of an offensive coaching philosophy-type issue IMO. Yes we don't have enough good players but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that moving the ball more makes you less predictable and harder to defend.
Great teams can get away with 1-2 sticky players if their best player is exceptional at Iso-ball... middle of the road teams (us) can't afford both Randle and RJ (and to a lesser degree Brunson) holding the ball as much - especially when the other starters are one kick out/spot up shooter (Grimes so far) and a C that doesn't shoot if it's not a dunk. It's like pickup games - taking turns going 1 on 1 and your teams best player is not even the best player on the court to begin with. Instead of thinking we need to add another ball dominant very good scorer/player (eg Lavine)... or thinking we add Bullock or Caruso to this group (would help some)... it's time to move away from this offensive style and move either Randle or RJ and try to replace them with a better player at their respective position. Trading away too much for an OG would help but we'd still struggle if RJ and Randle are both starting and dominating the ball too much. Unless they wake up one day and really increase their efficiency and reduce their streaky nature. Very unlikely.
You can get by with 2, but 3 just kills the offense. Brunson is Iso heavy, but he also shoots at a high clip. You can win with Iso players like Brunson. Its time to address the elephant in the room. People don't want to admit it, but RJ is killing the team. The guy can't shoot. Letting him shoot 20 times a game is a recipe for losing. His offense costs the team 5-6 points a game. Randle isn't a great shooter either, but overall is a much better player than RJ. Our 4th best offensive player Quickley can't shoot either. I think a OG Anunoby for Barrett trade what make the team better. Sending RJ to Toronto wouldn't be a total slap in the face either.