i just want to extend positive vibes on RJ at the moment, along with all other Knicks
Will save criticisms until after season is over.
that said, i don't want Ingram. We need a guys who is tough and reliable. If i'm trading for a guy who only plays part of a season it will be for Zion
Alpha1971 wrote:fishmike wrote:Go hard after Ingram. He gets banged up a lot but he's the 3 you need. Offer a package around McBride/Obi/RJ and some minor draft compResign IQ
Resign JHart
Brunson/Grimes/Ingram/Jules/Mitch
bench: IQ/JHart/IHart
Those are my 8 guys.
But don't do it so sloppily who is your 9th man ? Don't leave it hanging, give us a name to replace Obi. Is it Isiah Robey or another vet ? Lol just kidding ... Or am I ?
play 8.... Thibs will LOVE that.
That being said we have a guy shooting over 40^% from 3 overseas in Rokus. We have Simms... Maybe it's Trevor 
fishmike wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:fishmike wrote:Go hard after Ingram. He gets banged up a lot but he's the 3 you need. Offer a package around McBride/Obi/RJ and some minor draft compResign IQ
Resign JHart
Brunson/Grimes/Ingram/Jules/Mitch
bench: IQ/JHart/IHart
Those are my 8 guys.
But don't do it so sloppily who is your 9th man ? Don't leave it hanging, give us a name to replace Obi. Is it Isiah Robey or another vet ? Lol just kidding ... Or am I ?
play 8.... Thibs will LOVE that. That being said we have a guy shooting over 40^% from 3 overseas in Rokus. We have Simms... Maybe it's Trevor
Rokas def can come over Plus we Evans contract and picks to trade for someone in that price range. Can we get something good for a first or two and Evans contract
fishmike wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:fishmike wrote:Go hard after Ingram. He gets banged up a lot but he's the 3 you need. Offer a package around McBride/Obi/RJ and some minor draft compResign IQ
Resign JHart
Brunson/Grimes/Ingram/Jules/Mitch
bench: IQ/JHart/IHart
Those are my 8 guys.
But don't do it so sloppily who is your 9th man ? Don't leave it hanging, give us a name to replace Obi. Is it Isiah Robey or another vet ? Lol just kidding ... Or am I ?
play 8.... Thibs will LOVE that. That being said we have a guy shooting over 40^% from 3 overseas in Rokus. We have Simms... Maybe it's Trevor
Playing 8 is fine when you have Hartenstein plus 2 elite guys off the bench playing 30 mins a night. That’s perfectly fine as long as there’s more depth. Bringing over Rokas plus having Deuce is good for filler minutes. Plus solid free agents should want to come here to fill out the roster with the good vibes.
Barrett is answering the call and stepping up when it matters. He’s the x-factor for playoffs for sure.
Knixkik wrote:Barrett is answering the call and stepping up when it matters. He’s the x-factor for playoffs for sure.
Still only 22 years old. Just sayin...
martin wrote:
Plus he wants to play and isn’t threatening or beating up teenagers.
I want to see RJ play like this when Randle isnt having an off night. It could be just a coincidence. Or maybe its about them not fitting well together. They havent to this point.
RJ plays better as a top two option. He has been the last couple of games. What happens when he goes back to the number 3 option? Will he be as efficient? IDK. The rest of the playoffs should tell Dont want them both back if its going to be mostly like it is during the regular season.
GustavBahler wrote:I want to see RJ play like this when Randle isnt having an off night. It could be just a coincidence. Or maybe its about them not fitting well together. They havent to this point.RJ plays better as a top two option. He has been the last couple of games. What happens when he goes back to the number 3 option? Will he be as efficient? IDK. The rest of the playoffs should tell Dont want them both back if its going to be mostly like it is during the regular season.
How about all the time? That should be the average expectation of him IMHO
martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:I want to see RJ play like this when Randle isnt having an off night. It could be just a coincidence. Or maybe its about them not fitting well together. They havent to this point.RJ plays better as a top two option. He has been the last couple of games. What happens when he goes back to the number 3 option? Will he be as efficient? IDK. The rest of the playoffs should tell Dont want them both back if its going to be mostly like it is during the regular season.
How about all the time? That should be the average expectation of him IMHO
Thats what Im saying. We want to see him play this well all the time. But why isnt he ? Might be who he's playing with.
As I said after game 2, I dont believe this is the best we've seen from RJ, but it might be the best we see in NY.
The last two games demonstrated what RJ is capable of. Can he still do it when Randle is playing lights out? Thats what this playoff run should determine. I expect Randle to bounce back. Will RJ keep playing at this level?
GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:I want to see RJ play like this when Randle isnt having an off night. It could be just a coincidence. Or maybe its about them not fitting well together. They havent to this point.RJ plays better as a top two option. He has been the last couple of games. What happens when he goes back to the number 3 option? Will he be as efficient? IDK. The rest of the playoffs should tell Dont want them both back if its going to be mostly like it is during the regular season.
How about all the time? That should be the average expectation of him IMHO
Thats what Im saying. We want to see him play this well all the time. But why isnt he ? Might be who he's playing with.
As I said after game 2, I dont believe this is the best we've seen from RJ, but it might be the best we see in NY.
The last two games demonstrated what RJ is capable of. Can he still do it when Randle is playing lights out? Thats what this playoff run should determine. I expect Randle to bounce back. Will RJ keep playing at this level?
Since this marriage started, how many games have RJ and Randle played solid together (b4 JB came). Randle always seems visibly frustrated when RJ has the ball. But what I’ve seen is players that play at RJs tempo are more involved. If RJ is surrounded by players that have a more half court game, they don’t seem as involved and RJ runs into a brick wall in the paint. Hard for RJ to see any passing lanes if everyone just standing around watching him drive. But on one play when iHart cut as soon as RJ drove, iHart was rewarded with a nice dump off pass. Same with Mitch who’s been RJs trash man. Cleans up every missed layup.
I hope Randle is back and healthy, but I never had high expectations for these two when they on the court together. Seems like both are stunting each other’s potential at times. Or maybe RJs potential is the one being stunted. Let’s hope Brunson and the ultimate glue guy josh hart will help this marriage.
Just like Miami big 3 and bosh had to take the 3rd wheel. RJ or Randle has to accept the 3rd wheel and perform well in that role for this 3 headed monster to work. Otherwise RJ will have bad days and so will Randle. Let’s hope their bad days doesn’t affect the team from winning like the last two games where Randle wasnt efficient yet team still won.
Randle, IQ or Grimes, and picks for Luka if Kyrie bolts.
Is StarJay and Luka a good fit? LOL………..
Spitballing for sure.
If pace is the place then Randle is holding us back.
Obi is gonna be ok here and we develop again at PF, SG and PG. Deuce is first guard off the bench.
Luka
Brunson
StarJay
Mitch
Obi
I don’t want to trade IQ or any of our yoot. But if you can get Luka………….
Nalod wrote:Randle, IQ or Grimes, and picks for Luka if Kyrie bolts.
Is StarJay and Luka a good fit? LOL………..
Spitballing for sure.
If pace is the place then Randle is holding us back.
Obi is gonna be ok here and we develop again at PF, SG and PG. Deuce is first guard off the bench. Luka
Brunson
StarJay
Mitch
Obi
I don’t want to trade IQ or any of our yoot. But if you can get Luka………….
Luka was quoted recently as saying that he was happy in Dallas. Have to take him at his word. Things could change if Kyrie stays, and it still looks like doo-doo out there.
I will be surprised if Kyrie isnt a Laker next season. Father time is starting to catch up with LeBron. Kyrie would give him a few more years of contention. If Kyrie doesnt ask for too much and hinders depth.
blkexec wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:I want to see RJ play like this when Randle isnt having an off night. It could be just a coincidence. Or maybe its about them not fitting well together. They havent to this point.RJ plays better as a top two option. He has been the last couple of games. What happens when he goes back to the number 3 option? Will he be as efficient? IDK. The rest of the playoffs should tell Dont want them both back if its going to be mostly like it is during the regular season.
How about all the time? That should be the average expectation of him IMHO
Thats what Im saying. We want to see him play this well all the time. But why isnt he ? Might be who he's playing with.
As I said after game 2, I dont believe this is the best we've seen from RJ, but it might be the best we see in NY.
The last two games demonstrated what RJ is capable of. Can he still do it when Randle is playing lights out? Thats what this playoff run should determine. I expect Randle to bounce back. Will RJ keep playing at this level?
Since this marriage started, how many games have RJ and Randle played solid together (b4 JB came). Randle always seems visibly frustrated when RJ has the ball. But what I’ve seen is players that play at RJs tempo are more involved. If RJ is surrounded by players that have a more half court game, they don’t seem as involved and RJ runs into a brick wall in the paint. Hard for RJ to see any passing lanes if everyone just standing around watching him drive. But on one play when iHart cut as soon as RJ drove, iHart was rewarded with a nice dump off pass. Same with Mitch who’s been RJs trash man. Cleans up every missed layup.
I hope Randle is back and healthy, but I never had high expectations for these two when they on the court together. Seems like both are stunting each other’s potential at times. Or maybe RJs potential is the one being stunted. Let’s hope Brunson and the ultimate glue guy josh hart will help this marriage.
Just like Miami big 3 and bosh had to take the 3rd wheel. RJ or Randle has to accept the 3rd wheel and perform well in that role for this 3 headed monster to work. Otherwise RJ will have bad days and so will Randle. Let’s hope their bad days doesn’t affect the team from winning like the last two games where Randle wasnt efficient yet team still won.
Randle's behavior after the game, walking out, even though we won. Doesnt reflect well on him. He knew he was playing poorly.
I'm guessing that Randle will play better. But RJ looks like a better fit, when he's playing like this. In the flow of the offense, as mentioned.
GustavBahler wrote:blkexec wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:I want to see RJ play like this when Randle isnt having an off night. It could be just a coincidence. Or maybe its about them not fitting well together. They havent to this point.RJ plays better as a top two option. He has been the last couple of games. What happens when he goes back to the number 3 option? Will he be as efficient? IDK. The rest of the playoffs should tell Dont want them both back if its going to be mostly like it is during the regular season.
How about all the time? That should be the average expectation of him IMHO
Thats what Im saying. We want to see him play this well all the time. But why isnt he ? Might be who he's playing with.
As I said after game 2, I dont believe this is the best we've seen from RJ, but it might be the best we see in NY.
The last two games demonstrated what RJ is capable of. Can he still do it when Randle is playing lights out? Thats what this playoff run should determine. I expect Randle to bounce back. Will RJ keep playing at this level?
Since this marriage started, how many games have RJ and Randle played solid together (b4 JB came). Randle always seems visibly frustrated when RJ has the ball. But what I’ve seen is players that play at RJs tempo are more involved. If RJ is surrounded by players that have a more half court game, they don’t seem as involved and RJ runs into a brick wall in the paint. Hard for RJ to see any passing lanes if everyone just standing around watching him drive. But on one play when iHart cut as soon as RJ drove, iHart was rewarded with a nice dump off pass. Same with Mitch who’s been RJs trash man. Cleans up every missed layup.
I hope Randle is back and healthy, but I never had high expectations for these two when they on the court together. Seems like both are stunting each other’s potential at times. Or maybe RJs potential is the one being stunted. Let’s hope Brunson and the ultimate glue guy josh hart will help this marriage.
Just like Miami big 3 and bosh had to take the 3rd wheel. RJ or Randle has to accept the 3rd wheel and perform well in that role for this 3 headed monster to work. Otherwise RJ will have bad days and so will Randle. Let’s hope their bad days doesn’t affect the team from winning like the last two games where Randle wasnt efficient yet team still won.
Randle's behavior after the game, walking out, even though we won. Doesnt reflect well on him. He knew he was playing poorly.
I'm guessing that Randle will play better. But RJ looks like a better fit, when he's playing like this. In the flow of the offense, as mentioned.
mark Jax noted Jules was cheering on from the bench in the 4th.
Thibs said post game he was in pain.
Maybe after this past season we can give him the benefit of the doubt?
Nalod wrote:GustavBahler wrote:blkexec wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:I want to see RJ play like this when Randle isnt having an off night. It could be just a coincidence. Or maybe its about them not fitting well together. They havent to this point.RJ plays better as a top two option. He has been the last couple of games. What happens when he goes back to the number 3 option? Will he be as efficient? IDK. The rest of the playoffs should tell Dont want them both back if its going to be mostly like it is during the regular season.
How about all the time? That should be the average expectation of him IMHO
Thats what Im saying. We want to see him play this well all the time. But why isnt he ? Might be who he's playing with.
As I said after game 2, I dont believe this is the best we've seen from RJ, but it might be the best we see in NY.
The last two games demonstrated what RJ is capable of. Can he still do it when Randle is playing lights out? Thats what this playoff run should determine. I expect Randle to bounce back. Will RJ keep playing at this level?
Since this marriage started, how many games have RJ and Randle played solid together (b4 JB came). Randle always seems visibly frustrated when RJ has the ball. But what I’ve seen is players that play at RJs tempo are more involved. If RJ is surrounded by players that have a more half court game, they don’t seem as involved and RJ runs into a brick wall in the paint. Hard for RJ to see any passing lanes if everyone just standing around watching him drive. But on one play when iHart cut as soon as RJ drove, iHart was rewarded with a nice dump off pass. Same with Mitch who’s been RJs trash man. Cleans up every missed layup.
I hope Randle is back and healthy, but I never had high expectations for these two when they on the court together. Seems like both are stunting each other’s potential at times. Or maybe RJs potential is the one being stunted. Let’s hope Brunson and the ultimate glue guy josh hart will help this marriage.
Just like Miami big 3 and bosh had to take the 3rd wheel. RJ or Randle has to accept the 3rd wheel and perform well in that role for this 3 headed monster to work. Otherwise RJ will have bad days and so will Randle. Let’s hope their bad days doesn’t affect the team from winning like the last two games where Randle wasnt efficient yet team still won.
Randle's behavior after the game, walking out, even though we won. Doesnt reflect well on him. He knew he was playing poorly.
I'm guessing that Randle will play better. But RJ looks like a better fit, when he's playing like this. In the flow of the offense, as mentioned.
mark Jax noted Jules was cheering on from the bench in the 4th.
Thibs said post game he was in pain.
Maybe after this past season we can give him the benefit of the doubt?
Your right. And also give Obi the benefit of more time behind Randall and RJ. Give Obi 20-30 mins a night. Give Randal 30 mins a night and Obi 18 and 12 more at the 3 when matchups allow it. Hartenstein and Mitch are a tandem at 5. Obi and Julius should follow that pattern.
Nalod wrote:GustavBahler wrote:blkexec wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:I want to see RJ play like this when Randle isnt having an off night. It could be just a coincidence. Or maybe its about them not fitting well together. They havent to this point.RJ plays better as a top two option. He has been the last couple of games. What happens when he goes back to the number 3 option? Will he be as efficient? IDK. The rest of the playoffs should tell Dont want them both back if its going to be mostly like it is during the regular season.
How about all the time? That should be the average expectation of him IMHO
Thats what Im saying. We want to see him play this well all the time. But why isnt he ? Might be who he's playing with.
As I said after game 2, I dont believe this is the best we've seen from RJ, but it might be the best we see in NY.
The last two games demonstrated what RJ is capable of. Can he still do it when Randle is playing lights out? Thats what this playoff run should determine. I expect Randle to bounce back. Will RJ keep playing at this level?
Since this marriage started, how many games have RJ and Randle played solid together (b4 JB came). Randle always seems visibly frustrated when RJ has the ball. But what I’ve seen is players that play at RJs tempo are more involved. If RJ is surrounded by players that have a more half court game, they don’t seem as involved and RJ runs into a brick wall in the paint. Hard for RJ to see any passing lanes if everyone just standing around watching him drive. But on one play when iHart cut as soon as RJ drove, iHart was rewarded with a nice dump off pass. Same with Mitch who’s been RJs trash man. Cleans up every missed layup.
I hope Randle is back and healthy, but I never had high expectations for these two when they on the court together. Seems like both are stunting each other’s potential at times. Or maybe RJs potential is the one being stunted. Let’s hope Brunson and the ultimate glue guy josh hart will help this marriage.
Just like Miami big 3 and bosh had to take the 3rd wheel. RJ or Randle has to accept the 3rd wheel and perform well in that role for this 3 headed monster to work. Otherwise RJ will have bad days and so will Randle. Let’s hope their bad days doesn’t affect the team from winning like the last two games where Randle wasnt efficient yet team still won.
Randle's behavior after the game, walking out, even though we won. Doesnt reflect well on him. He knew he was playing poorly.
I'm guessing that Randle will play better. But RJ looks like a better fit, when he's playing like this. In the flow of the offense, as mentioned.
mark Jax noted Jules was cheering on from the bench in the 4th.
Thibs said post game he was in pain.
Maybe after this past season we can give him the benefit of the doubt?
Should have stayed to praise his teammates for getting a W. Randle felt good enough to ask for more PT at the end of game 3 up by 20. I've said repeatedly that Randle should have a better playoff run going forward.
Considering that he has been a non-factor in yet another playoff run. Thats the definition of giving a player the benefit of the doubt.
GustavBahler wrote:Nalod wrote:GustavBahler wrote:blkexec wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:I want to see RJ play like this when Randle isnt having an off night. It could be just a coincidence. Or maybe its about them not fitting well together. They havent to this point.RJ plays better as a top two option. He has been the last couple of games. What happens when he goes back to the number 3 option? Will he be as efficient? IDK. The rest of the playoffs should tell Dont want them both back if its going to be mostly like it is during the regular season.
How about all the time? That should be the average expectation of him IMHO
Thats what Im saying. We want to see him play this well all the time. But why isnt he ? Might be who he's playing with.
As I said after game 2, I dont believe this is the best we've seen from RJ, but it might be the best we see in NY.
The last two games demonstrated what RJ is capable of. Can he still do it when Randle is playing lights out? Thats what this playoff run should determine. I expect Randle to bounce back. Will RJ keep playing at this level?
Since this marriage started, how many games have RJ and Randle played solid together (b4 JB came). Randle always seems visibly frustrated when RJ has the ball. But what I’ve seen is players that play at RJs tempo are more involved. If RJ is surrounded by players that have a more half court game, they don’t seem as involved and RJ runs into a brick wall in the paint. Hard for RJ to see any passing lanes if everyone just standing around watching him drive. But on one play when iHart cut as soon as RJ drove, iHart was rewarded with a nice dump off pass. Same with Mitch who’s been RJs trash man. Cleans up every missed layup.
I hope Randle is back and healthy, but I never had high expectations for these two when they on the court together. Seems like both are stunting each other’s potential at times. Or maybe RJs potential is the one being stunted. Let’s hope Brunson and the ultimate glue guy josh hart will help this marriage.
Just like Miami big 3 and bosh had to take the 3rd wheel. RJ or Randle has to accept the 3rd wheel and perform well in that role for this 3 headed monster to work. Otherwise RJ will have bad days and so will Randle. Let’s hope their bad days doesn’t affect the team from winning like the last two games where Randle wasnt efficient yet team still won.
Randle's behavior after the game, walking out, even though we won. Doesnt reflect well on him. He knew he was playing poorly.
I'm guessing that Randle will play better. But RJ looks like a better fit, when he's playing like this. In the flow of the offense, as mentioned.
mark Jax noted Jules was cheering on from the bench in the 4th.
Thibs said post game he was in pain.
Maybe after this past season we can give him the benefit of the doubt?
Should have stayed to praise his teammates for getting a W. Randle felt good enough to ask for more PT at the end of game 3 up by 20. I've said repeatedly that Randle should have a better playoff run going forward.
Considering that he has been a non-factor in yet another playoff run. Thats the definition of giving a player the benefit of the doubt.
Maybe he was cool to let the others have their interview moment and was in pain? Getting treatment asap?
Knicks win means he has more time to heal and perhaps miss a game?
Nalod wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Nalod wrote:GustavBahler wrote:blkexec wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:I want to see RJ play like this when Randle isnt having an off night. It could be just a coincidence. Or maybe its about them not fitting well together. They havent to this point.RJ plays better as a top two option. He has been the last couple of games. What happens when he goes back to the number 3 option? Will he be as efficient? IDK. The rest of the playoffs should tell Dont want them both back if its going to be mostly like it is during the regular season.
How about all the time? That should be the average expectation of him IMHO
Thats what Im saying. We want to see him play this well all the time. But why isnt he ? Might be who he's playing with.
As I said after game 2, I dont believe this is the best we've seen from RJ, but it might be the best we see in NY.
The last two games demonstrated what RJ is capable of. Can he still do it when Randle is playing lights out? Thats what this playoff run should determine. I expect Randle to bounce back. Will RJ keep playing at this level?
Since this marriage started, how many games have RJ and Randle played solid together (b4 JB came). Randle always seems visibly frustrated when RJ has the ball. But what I’ve seen is players that play at RJs tempo are more involved. If RJ is surrounded by players that have a more half court game, they don’t seem as involved and RJ runs into a brick wall in the paint. Hard for RJ to see any passing lanes if everyone just standing around watching him drive. But on one play when iHart cut as soon as RJ drove, iHart was rewarded with a nice dump off pass. Same with Mitch who’s been RJs trash man. Cleans up every missed layup.
I hope Randle is back and healthy, but I never had high expectations for these two when they on the court together. Seems like both are stunting each other’s potential at times. Or maybe RJs potential is the one being stunted. Let’s hope Brunson and the ultimate glue guy josh hart will help this marriage.
Just like Miami big 3 and bosh had to take the 3rd wheel. RJ or Randle has to accept the 3rd wheel and perform well in that role for this 3 headed monster to work. Otherwise RJ will have bad days and so will Randle. Let’s hope their bad days doesn’t affect the team from winning like the last two games where Randle wasnt efficient yet team still won.
Randle's behavior after the game, walking out, even though we won. Doesnt reflect well on him. He knew he was playing poorly.
I'm guessing that Randle will play better. But RJ looks like a better fit, when he's playing like this. In the flow of the offense, as mentioned.
mark Jax noted Jules was cheering on from the bench in the 4th.
Thibs said post game he was in pain.
Maybe after this past season we can give him the benefit of the doubt?
Should have stayed to praise his teammates for getting a W. Randle felt good enough to ask for more PT at the end of game 3 up by 20. I've said repeatedly that Randle should have a better playoff run going forward.
Considering that he has been a non-factor in yet another playoff run. Thats the definition of giving a player the benefit of the doubt.
Maybe he was cool to let the others have their interview moment and was in pain? Getting treatment asap?
Knicks win means he has more time to heal and perhaps miss a game?
Randle is hurt. Anyone here ever had an ankle sprain? I have and it lingered and in some ways was never the same. But I didn't have to play in the NBA playoffs a few weeks later. One can choose to see this as "an excuse," but it is also a fact.
Now I know it triggers some when Randle is defended here, but I'd say it is also a fact that the Knicks are not where they are without him. Do I want him to excel in the playoffs? Hell yes. Do I approve of all his behavior? Hell no. But I'm also not going to mind read from his body language as he heads to the locker room. His teammates and coach seem real good with the guy. I'll take that over the opinions of myself and others.
Makes sense. 🤔I'll buy it.
