Knicks · Another RJ Barrett thread (page 3)

BigDaddyG @ 4/25/2023 12:58 PM
Makes sense. 🤔I'll buy it.
Nalod @ 4/25/2023 1:48 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:Makes sense. 🤔I'll buy it.

Wait, he's human also???
Pro athletes and Actors/actresses are self absorbed humans and if they are at the highest level they live in a world unlike most of us.
money is no issue. Time, consideration, maturity, compassion, and being in a relationship that I have read has been since 2018 would be something we can't comprehend.
She is an accomplished person also:

At 22 I can imagine he is both mature and immature as most are at that age, but think about what when you were in love at that age and what that was like? Raging hormones is one thing.
She is out of school and lets say starting a career. She is young and wants to have fun. He is too, but his job is a bit demanding!
ANd what is the next step for 22 year olds? Usually get established in a career right? They want to be together, but then there is being a shitty companion because of the demands.
Seems easy right? Never is.
Then there is the temptations that await at every turn.

BigDaddyG @ 4/25/2023 4:44 PM
Very accomplished. Explains why RJ was so left hand dominant the last few games of the season.
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LivingLegend @ 4/25/2023 6:28 PM
Can Hailey stick around until RJ stops going 0-6 from 3 and missing 5 free throws?

Some of the excuses thrown around for RJ and Julius are pretty funny.

I mean Julius out there trying to throw down big time dunks, throwing his body into people and blocking shots but people saying his ankle hurts.

If anything I could see his hip or tailbone being an issue after the J Allen foul and crash to floor but all I see is normal Julius playing hot/cold with little ability to self correct the bad on the fly. If he plays bad he generally runs for cover and doesn’t face the music — if he plays well he’s out front soaking in the love.

Nalod @ 4/25/2023 6:52 PM
LivingLegend wrote:Can Hailey stick around until RJ stops going 0-6 from 3 and missing 5 free throws?

Some of the excuses thrown around for RJ and Julius are pretty funny.

I mean Julius out there trying to throw down big time dunks, throwing his body into people and blocking shots but people saying his ankle hurts.

If anything I could see his hip or tailbone being an issue after the J Allen foul and crash to floor but all I see is normal Julius playing hot/cold with little ability to self correct the bad on the fly. If he plays bad he generally runs for cover and doesn’t face the music — if he plays well he’s out front soaking in the love.

Seems like its an afront to you? He plays bad you want him more humble? You paying him?
Jules is part of the family. He is not perfect. We fans are from from it too.
We got Three games to close Cavs out.

foosballnick @ 4/25/2023 7:54 PM
LivingLegend wrote:Can Hailey stick around until RJ stops going 0-6 from 3 and missing 5 free throws?

Some of the excuses thrown around for RJ and Julius are pretty funny.

I mean Julius out there trying to throw down big time dunks, throwing his body into people and blocking shots but people saying his ankle hurts.

If anything I could see his hip or tailbone being an issue after the J Allen foul and crash to floor but all I see is normal Julius playing hot/cold with little ability to self correct the bad on the fly. If he plays bad he generally runs for cover and doesn’t face the music — if he plays well he’s out front soaking in the love.

Here's to hoping that glass house you live in is shatterproof.

EwingsGlass @ 4/25/2023 9:03 PM
LivingLegend wrote:Can Hailey stick around until RJ stops going 0-6 from 3 and missing 5 free throws?

Some of the excuses thrown around for RJ and Julius are pretty funny.

I mean Julius out there trying to throw down big time dunks, throwing his body into people and blocking shots but people saying his ankle hurts.

If anything I could see his hip or tailbone being an issue after the J Allen foul and crash to floor but all I see is normal Julius playing hot/cold with little ability to self correct the bad on the fly. If he plays bad he generally runs for cover and doesn’t face the music — if he plays well he’s out front soaking in the love.

IF anything RJ looks tired out there. Man needs his sleep.

BigDaddyG @ 4/25/2023 9:11 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:Can Hailey stick around until RJ stops going 0-6 from 3 and missing 5 free throws?

Some of the excuses thrown around for RJ and Julius are pretty funny.

I mean Julius out there trying to throw down big time dunks, throwing his body into people and blocking shots but people saying his ankle hurts.

If anything I could see his hip or tailbone being an issue after the J Allen foul and crash to floor but all I see is normal Julius playing hot/cold with little ability to self correct the bad on the fly. If he plays bad he generally runs for cover and doesn’t face the music — if he plays well he’s out front soaking in the love.

IF anything RJ looks tired out there. Man needs his sleep.

Nice. Now we're blaming Hailey for everything.

BigDaddyG @ 4/25/2023 9:14 PM
Sometimes you need to throw away the pull out... Um, I mean pull up game and just take it strong to the hole. Man... These two days seem more like a week. I need Knicks fix, like, right now.

fishmike @ 4/26/2023 1:10 PM
RJ has been the same RJ. Why has he had some great games of late? Look at what the Cavs are doing. They are either pressing or trapping Brunson early getting the defense to move rather than be set. That's the biggest different. RJ is no longer barreling into 2 set bigs. He's attacking the basket while the defense is moving/addjusting and that's just enough for him to be effective.

He's a 1 trick pony and that 1 trick is great when he's attacking a defense still recovering from not allowing Brunson to get to his spot.

He's played better. I suspect the few TOs and mistakes is the better headspace mentioned above.

RJ doesnt have to be perfect. Just play well and do his thing. He's backing to doing that and looking like a good 3rd/4th option

Knixkik @ 4/26/2023 2:09 PM
These playoffs are really make or break for RJ. It still feels like the most obvious position the Knicks could upgrade if Anunoby or Paul George become available. But he could play well enough into no longer being traded, similar to IQ earlier in the year.
martin @ 4/26/2023 3:42 PM
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foosballnick @ 4/26/2023 4:19 PM
Knixkik wrote:These playoffs are really make or break for RJ. It still feels like the most obvious position the Knicks could upgrade if Anunoby or Paul George become available. But he could play well enough into no longer being traded, similar to IQ earlier in the year.

Not sure I get the continual love for Anunoby at the rumored asking price from the Raptors (3-4 FRPs). At that investment does he really make the team that much better? Should target an "A" stud and not a guy who is basically a "plus" 3 & D wing. Also - four years into their respective careers, RJ compared favorably to OG in most offensive categories. OG has a higher PER rating, but still below league average.

Paul George - yes. Other targets for me are Ingram and even Kawhi.

Lesser targets would be Cam Johnson or Franz Wagner.

blkexec @ 4/26/2023 4:19 PM
Thibs will have to do the same with Randle. Set him up high and run the same downhill plays he's running for RJ. That seems to get these lefties going.

Another Thibs adjustment I saw was Mitch receiving the ball up high. With Allen up high, ready to trade (I believe fish said this as well), and Randle standing at the 3pt line keeping Mobley honest (Obi does the same), you just cleared the runway for RJ to take off, with Mitch rolling to the rim for an alley-oop or put back. This is the Brunson affect, since they don't have a Deuce McBride to guard Brunson, they rather double him.

Cavs are doomed either way, pick your poison. Double Brunson or not, both strategies doesn't work. Leaves guys like RJ one on one. Leaves Mitch open for offensive rebounds. Leaves Hart open for long range offensive rebounds. And don't let 1st quarter Randle get into early rhythm, it's over.

BigDaddyG @ 4/26/2023 4:28 PM
blkexec wrote:Thibs will have to do the same with Randle. Set him up high and run the same downhill plays he's running for RJ. That seems to get these lefties going.

Another Thibs adjustment I saw was Mitch receiving the ball up high. With Allen up high, ready to trade (I believe fish said this as well), and Randle standing at the 3pt line keeping Mobley honest (Obi does the same), you just cleared the runway for RJ to take off, with Mitch rolling to the rim for an alley-oop or put back. This is the Brunson affect, since they don't have a Deuce McBride to guard Brunson, they rather double him.

Cavs are doomed either way, pick your poison. Double Brunson or not, both strategies doesn't work. Leaves guys like RJ one on one. Leaves Mitch open for offensive rebounds. Leaves Hart open for long range offensive rebounds. And don't let 1st quarter Randle get into early rhythm, it's over.

I think the Cavs will probably take their chances with RJ going off. The season numbers would back this up. The problem is RJ is more dynamic than a guy like Okoro (though Okoro shot better from 3 this season). But you're right, the Cavs are doomed either way. Really hurts them that Cheddar @$$man is playing like crap. I haven't seen much of Lopez this season, but has been that bad? I think, at the very least, he would help stop some of the bleeding on the offensive boards.

ramtour420 @ 4/26/2023 5:02 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
blkexec wrote:Thibs will have to do the same with Randle. Set him up high and run the same downhill plays he's running for RJ. That seems to get these lefties going.

Another Thibs adjustment I saw was Mitch receiving the ball up high. With Allen up high, ready to trade (I believe fish said this as well), and Randle standing at the 3pt line keeping Mobley honest (Obi does the same), you just cleared the runway for RJ to take off, with Mitch rolling to the rim for an alley-oop or put back. This is the Brunson affect, since they don't have a Deuce McBride to guard Brunson, they rather double him.

Cavs are doomed either way, pick your poison. Double Brunson or not, both strategies doesn't work. Leaves guys like RJ one on one. Leaves Mitch open for offensive rebounds. Leaves Hart open for long range offensive rebounds. And don't let 1st quarter Randle get into early rhythm, it's over.

I think the Cavs will probably take their chances with RJ going off. The season numbers would back this up. The problem is RJ is more dynamic than a guy like Okoro (though Okoro shot better from 3 this season). But you're right, the Cavs are doomed either way. Really hurts them that Cheddar @$$man is playing like crap. I haven't seen much of Lopez this season, but has been that bad? I think, at the very least, he would help stop some of the bleeding on the offensive boards.

He is like 40 y/o or something

NYKMentality @ 4/26/2023 5:59 PM
Feels so awesome to know that the same player I've raved about for 3 years in R.J. Barrett?

To watch him become the MVP of this Knicks vs. Cleveland PLAYOFFS SERIES?!?

Feels so good man.

martin @ 4/26/2023 10:29 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:Makes sense. 🤔I'll buy it.

BigDaddyG @ 4/26/2023 10:36 PM
NYKMentality wrote:Feels so awesome to know that the same player I've raved about for 3 years in R.J. Barrett?

To watch him become the MVP of this Knicks vs. Cleveland PLAYOFFS SERIES?!?

Feels so good man.

Ok, settle down. Your heading into Jalen Brunson slander territory.

HofstraBBall @ 4/27/2023 6:50 AM
Nalod wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
blkexec wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
martin wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:I want to see RJ play like this when Randle isnt having an off night. It could be just a coincidence. Or maybe its about them not fitting well together. They havent to this point.

RJ plays better as a top two option. He has been the last couple of games. What happens when he goes back to the number 3 option? Will he be as efficient? IDK. The rest of the playoffs should tell Dont want them both back if its going to be mostly like it is during the regular season.

How about all the time? That should be the average expectation of him IMHO

Thats what Im saying. We want to see him play this well all the time. But why isnt he ? Might be who he's playing with.

As I said after game 2, I dont believe this is the best we've seen from RJ, but it might be the best we see in NY.

The last two games demonstrated what RJ is capable of. Can he still do it when Randle is playing lights out? Thats what this playoff run should determine. I expect Randle to bounce back. Will RJ keep playing at this level?

Since this marriage started, how many games have RJ and Randle played solid together (b4 JB came). Randle always seems visibly frustrated when RJ has the ball. But what I’ve seen is players that play at RJs tempo are more involved. If RJ is surrounded by players that have a more half court game, they don’t seem as involved and RJ runs into a brick wall in the paint. Hard for RJ to see any passing lanes if everyone just standing around watching him drive. But on one play when iHart cut as soon as RJ drove, iHart was rewarded with a nice dump off pass. Same with Mitch who’s been RJs trash man. Cleans up every missed layup.

I hope Randle is back and healthy, but I never had high expectations for these two when they on the court together. Seems like both are stunting each other’s potential at times. Or maybe RJs potential is the one being stunted. Let’s hope Brunson and the ultimate glue guy josh hart will help this marriage.

Just like Miami big 3 and bosh had to take the 3rd wheel. RJ or Randle has to accept the 3rd wheel and perform well in that role for this 3 headed monster to work. Otherwise RJ will have bad days and so will Randle. Let’s hope their bad days doesn’t affect the team from winning like the last two games where Randle wasnt efficient yet team still won.

Randle's behavior after the game, walking out, even though we won. Doesnt reflect well on him. He knew he was playing poorly.

I'm guessing that Randle will play better. But RJ looks like a better fit, when he's playing like this. In the flow of the offense, as mentioned.

mark Jax noted Jules was cheering on from the bench in the 4th.
Thibs said post game he was in pain.
Maybe after this past season we can give him the benefit of the doubt?

Nah. Gustav is the 7 minute ab guy from Something about Mary. Has Randle turrets.
Think many don't get that Knicks need players with a dog mentality. Randle gives them that. Like JHart, IQ, I want guys that can ball but also inflict a physical presence and can intimidate with their physicality and attitude. Don't want ravishing Rudy's flying around the court. Reason why I loved Maze, Starks and Oak. (Players who some fans also focussed on what they could not do instead of the intangibles) Guys who were also physical and would bitch slap soft opponents.

Gustav loves Obi, who I believe is that soft player everyone would take advantage in a physical playoff series.

Also feel last week's punching bag, RJ, has that physicality. Think both RJ and Randle have shown an ability to be elite going down hill. Not looking to give that up and will take the inconsistency from the outside. Something that can be improved.

HofstraBBall @ 4/27/2023 6:55 AM
KnickDanger wrote:
Nalod wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Nalod wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
blkexec wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
martin wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:I want to see RJ play like this when Randle isnt having an off night. It could be just a coincidence. Or maybe its about them not fitting well together. They havent to this point.

RJ plays better as a top two option. He has been the last couple of games. What happens when he goes back to the number 3 option? Will he be as efficient? IDK. The rest of the playoffs should tell Dont want them both back if its going to be mostly like it is during the regular season.

How about all the time? That should be the average expectation of him IMHO

Thats what Im saying. We want to see him play this well all the time. But why isnt he ? Might be who he's playing with.

As I said after game 2, I dont believe this is the best we've seen from RJ, but it might be the best we see in NY.

The last two games demonstrated what RJ is capable of. Can he still do it when Randle is playing lights out? Thats what this playoff run should determine. I expect Randle to bounce back. Will RJ keep playing at this level?

Since this marriage started, how many games have RJ and Randle played solid together (b4 JB came). Randle always seems visibly frustrated when RJ has the ball. But what I’ve seen is players that play at RJs tempo are more involved. If RJ is surrounded by players that have a more half court game, they don’t seem as involved and RJ runs into a brick wall in the paint. Hard for RJ to see any passing lanes if everyone just standing around watching him drive. But on one play when iHart cut as soon as RJ drove, iHart was rewarded with a nice dump off pass. Same with Mitch who’s been RJs trash man. Cleans up every missed layup.

I hope Randle is back and healthy, but I never had high expectations for these two when they on the court together. Seems like both are stunting each other’s potential at times. Or maybe RJs potential is the one being stunted. Let’s hope Brunson and the ultimate glue guy josh hart will help this marriage.

Just like Miami big 3 and bosh had to take the 3rd wheel. RJ or Randle has to accept the 3rd wheel and perform well in that role for this 3 headed monster to work. Otherwise RJ will have bad days and so will Randle. Let’s hope their bad days doesn’t affect the team from winning like the last two games where Randle wasnt efficient yet team still won.

Randle's behavior after the game, walking out, even though we won. Doesnt reflect well on him. He knew he was playing poorly.

I'm guessing that Randle will play better. But RJ looks like a better fit, when he's playing like this. In the flow of the offense, as mentioned.

mark Jax noted Jules was cheering on from the bench in the 4th.
Thibs said post game he was in pain.
Maybe after this past season we can give him the benefit of the doubt?

Should have stayed to praise his teammates for getting a W. Randle felt good enough to ask for more PT at the end of game 3 up by 20. I've said repeatedly that Randle should have a better playoff run going forward.

Considering that he has been a non-factor in yet another playoff run. Thats the definition of giving a player the benefit of the doubt.

Maybe he was cool to let the others have their interview moment and was in pain? Getting treatment asap?
Knicks win means he has more time to heal and perhaps miss a game?


Randle is hurt. Anyone here ever had an ankle sprain? I have and it lingered and in some ways was never the same. But I didn't have to play in the NBA playoffs a few weeks later. One can choose to see this as "an excuse," but it is also a fact.

Now I know it triggers some when Randle is defended here, but I'd say it is also a fact that the Knicks are not where they are without him. Do I want him to excel in the playoffs? Hell yes. Do I approve of all his behavior? Hell no. But I'm also not going to mind read from his body language as he heads to the locker room. His teammates and coach seem real good with the guy. I'll take that over the opinions of myself and others.

There will be a slow motion breakdown on Twitter showing Randle leaving early. Gustav and Bigdaddy will post it several times.
But only after erasing any video of Obi's scuffle with RJ.

We won a series bitches!! Let's kick some more ass. Look forward to any hater posts if we keep winning! We have a great team. Reminds me of Ewing, Oak, Starks team. (Which many complained about at the time) Frustrating, tough nosed and could ball. Team that had lots of fight in them. We have some dogs on this team and need them ALL healthy. Despite the nitpicking and player favoritism by some. I am running with this entire squad. Have good pieces from 1 to 10.

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