Knicks · Thibs playing all the guys down 25 (page 2)

fishmike @ 4/19/2023 10:18 AM
SergioNYK wrote:Joking aside, why does he do this? Does Thibs think there is a real legit chance of coming back? Is it punishment for the players for getting blown out? I DON'T GET IT!!!!!!
martin @ 4/19/2023 10:19 AM
Lavert, 40 minutes
Donovan, 39 minutes
Mobley, 40 minutes
Garland, 36 minutes
Allen, 35 minutes

Cavs were up by fucking 20 the whole second half.

Everyone understands it's the playoffs?

Second half was like a practice session for Thibs and his players.

BigDaddyG @ 4/19/2023 10:20 AM
fishmike wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:Joking aside, why does he do this? Does Thibs think there is a real legit chance of coming back? Is it punishment for the players for getting blown out? I DON'T GET IT!!!!!!

One of the jobs of a head coach is to protect their players from themselves.
fishmike @ 4/19/2023 10:25 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
fishmike wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:Joking aside, why does he do this? Does Thibs think there is a real legit chance of coming back? Is it punishment for the players for getting blown out? I DON'T GET IT!!!!!!

One of the jobs of a head coach is to protect their players from themselves.
yeah maybe but its fine print and wildly low on the list if at all. They are playing basketball not playing with grenades. If Jules gets hurt he gets hurt. That happens when you play basketball.

Funny to hear YOU say "we gotta protect Jules" how did that feel coming out? Need some water?

GustavBahler @ 4/19/2023 10:27 AM
martin wrote:Lavert, 40 minutes
Donovan, 39 minutes
Mobley, 40 minutes
Garland, 36 minutes
Allen, 35 minutes

Cavs were up by fucking 20 the whole second half.

Everyone understands it's the playoffs?

Second half was like a practice session for Thibs and his players.

The Cavs werent treating the game like practice, they were still playing very physical ball. Which is why Randle should have been on the bench.

Nalod @ 4/19/2023 10:28 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Nalod wrote:When fans know more than actual pro coaches react to bad loss.
So y'all get upity when Reggie Miller starts ranting while our team is getting beaten AFTER of course Randle goes down.

Maybe ask yourself why he kept them in? If anyone was injured, they were out. Josh was out.
Seemed to me he wanted them to stay intense and finish with a good feeling? Quick found something, RJ went down hill, and Randle had that nice steal and dunk.
He is ok. It can happen at anytime of the game.
FInd something to carry over into game three?
Find more instances were tape can help teach?
Does Reggie Miller (who was on the ESPN broadcast) know more than Nalod? Of course. He also is color commentating a blow out. Ever notice the Master of controversy in a bad game, our own JVG, who gets outraged during boring game with outcome already in hand. This seeps into our heads while watching.
That Reggie was bringing up DRose injury was a cheap shot in my mind.

Also, can we recount who Clev had on the court? Not like they pulled Allen did they? DM was still out there?
What is more common or "Polite", the victor bring in their subs or the losing team?
Jarett Allen, DM, Mobley could have hurt Themselves as well.


Keep them in the game so they can find their rhythm against deep bench reserves? I'm sorry, but I can't agree with this. That is what practice is for. Our guys should've been taken out the minute Cleveland took their starters out.

Who was on the floor for the cavs when Randle got fouled?
I can tell you Allen was for sure. Who else?
Brunson was out by then. Quick at least go it going very late.
Grimes was back in looking for something to walk off with.

Im not defending it BTW, some are asking “why”?
I’m just trying to bring context to why they were out there and what Thibs was thinking.
And……….as said, he asked to be kept in.

BigDaddyG @ 4/19/2023 10:30 AM
fishmike wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
fishmike wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:Joking aside, why does he do this? Does Thibs think there is a real legit chance of coming back? Is it punishment for the players for getting blown out? I DON'T GET IT!!!!!!

One of the jobs of a head coach is to protect their players from themselves.
yeah maybe but its fine print and wildly low on the list if at all. They are playing basketball not playing with grenades. If Jules gets hurt he gets hurt. That happens when you play basketball.

Funny to hear YOU say "we gotta protect Jules" how did that feel coming out? Need some water?

I didn't mention Jules by name, I meant in general. Also, I'd say any team that has Jules on it is definitely playing with at least one grenade on a night to night basis.

martin @ 4/19/2023 10:34 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Nalod wrote:When fans know more than actual pro coaches react to bad loss.
So y'all get upity when Reggie Miller starts ranting while our team is getting beaten AFTER of course Randle goes down.

Maybe ask yourself why he kept them in? If anyone was injured, they were out. Josh was out.
Seemed to me he wanted them to stay intense and finish with a good feeling? Quick found something, RJ went down hill, and Randle had that nice steal and dunk.
He is ok. It can happen at anytime of the game.
FInd something to carry over into game three?
Find more instances were tape can help teach?
Does Reggie Miller (who was on the ESPN broadcast) know more than Nalod? Of course. He also is color commentating a blow out. Ever notice the Master of controversy in a bad game, our own JVG, who gets outraged during boring game with outcome already in hand. This seeps into our heads while watching.
That Reggie was bringing up DRose injury was a cheap shot in my mind.

Also, can we recount who Clev had on the court? Not like they pulled Allen did they? DM was still out there?
What is more common or "Polite", the victor bring in their subs or the losing team?
Jarett Allen, DM, Mobley could have hurt Themselves as well.


Keep them in the game so they can find their rhythm against deep bench reserves? I'm sorry, but I can't agree with this. That is what practice is for. Our guys should've been taken out the minute Cleveland took their starters out.

Literally, it's because you have never played pro sports or sports in general at a high enough level to have this perspective. Dude has been off his feet for 2-3 weeks and is still rounding into shape.

It takes a LONG time to get back the fine tuning a pro athlete is used to. And especially at full game speed, which normally does not occur during practice, you know, on your off day when you are supposed to actually get the rest you need.

VDesai @ 4/19/2023 11:28 AM
Ultimately the question is why does Jarrett Allen (or anyone else) - have very little recourse for giving a hard, flagrant and unnecessary foul in a game where his team is up 20. The only penalty is 1 shot and the ball? Give me a break. In soccer, to stop this from happening, he would have gotten a straight red and missed the next playoff game. Now that's a penalty that prevents players from doing this and straight up injuring guys.

The issue here is penalty doesn't prevent this from happening again. Its nonsense.

VDesai @ 4/19/2023 11:30 AM
For what its worth - I think Randle's response/mentality after this is the right mentality. His quotes in here show he is in the right frame of mind for the next game.

https://nypost.com/2023/04/19/julius-ran...

BigDaddyG @ 4/19/2023 12:25 PM
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Nalod wrote:When fans know more than actual pro coaches react to bad loss.
So y'all get upity when Reggie Miller starts ranting while our team is getting beaten AFTER of course Randle goes down.

Maybe ask yourself why he kept them in? If anyone was injured, they were out. Josh was out.
Seemed to me he wanted them to stay intense and finish with a good feeling? Quick found something, RJ went down hill, and Randle had that nice steal and dunk.
He is ok. It can happen at anytime of the game.
FInd something to carry over into game three?
Find more instances were tape can help teach?
Does Reggie Miller (who was on the ESPN broadcast) know more than Nalod? Of course. He also is color commentating a blow out. Ever notice the Master of controversy in a bad game, our own JVG, who gets outraged during boring game with outcome already in hand. This seeps into our heads while watching.
That Reggie was bringing up DRose injury was a cheap shot in my mind.

Also, can we recount who Clev had on the court? Not like they pulled Allen did they? DM was still out there?
What is more common or "Polite", the victor bring in their subs or the losing team?
Jarett Allen, DM, Mobley could have hurt Themselves as well.


Keep them in the game so they can find their rhythm against deep bench reserves? I'm sorry, but I can't agree with this. That is what practice is for. Our guys should've been taken out the minute Cleveland took their starters out.

Literally, it's because you have never played pro sports or sports in general at a high enough level to have this perspective. Dude has been off his feet for 2-3 weeks and is still rounding into shape.

It takes a LONG time to get back the fine tuning a pro athlete is used to. And especially at full game speed, which normally does not occur during practice, you know, on your off day when you are supposed to actually get the rest you need.


I have actually played(made a practice squad) for a team on the college level. Dude can get those reps in practice instead of playing against scrubs in a game that's over.
martin @ 4/19/2023 12:32 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Nalod wrote:When fans know more than actual pro coaches react to bad loss.
So y'all get upity when Reggie Miller starts ranting while our team is getting beaten AFTER of course Randle goes down.

Maybe ask yourself why he kept them in? If anyone was injured, they were out. Josh was out.
Seemed to me he wanted them to stay intense and finish with a good feeling? Quick found something, RJ went down hill, and Randle had that nice steal and dunk.
He is ok. It can happen at anytime of the game.
FInd something to carry over into game three?
Find more instances were tape can help teach?
Does Reggie Miller (who was on the ESPN broadcast) know more than Nalod? Of course. He also is color commentating a blow out. Ever notice the Master of controversy in a bad game, our own JVG, who gets outraged during boring game with outcome already in hand. This seeps into our heads while watching.
That Reggie was bringing up DRose injury was a cheap shot in my mind.

Also, can we recount who Clev had on the court? Not like they pulled Allen did they? DM was still out there?
What is more common or "Polite", the victor bring in their subs or the losing team?
Jarett Allen, DM, Mobley could have hurt Themselves as well.


Keep them in the game so they can find their rhythm against deep bench reserves? I'm sorry, but I can't agree with this. That is what practice is for. Our guys should've been taken out the minute Cleveland took their starters out.

Literally, it's because you have never played pro sports or sports in general at a high enough level to have this perspective. Dude has been off his feet for 2-3 weeks and is still rounding into shape.

It takes a LONG time to get back the fine tuning a pro athlete is used to. And especially at full game speed, which normally does not occur during practice, you know, on your off day when you are supposed to actually get the rest you need.


I have actually played(made a practice squad) for a team on the college level. Dude can get those reps in practice instead of playing against scrubs in a game that's over.

I don't mean to be controversial here (and my voice in previous is a bit off from where I intended) but there is a planet sized gap between what you did and what pro's do and need. Like a galaxy of difference.

I don't know what else to add here. If people think playing an extra 5 or even 10 minutes at the end of the game is a reason to get worried that a player is doing something wrong, they should be worried that that player is in a Kemba-like situation more than anything.

It's a little stupid to me.

Nalod @ 4/19/2023 1:20 PM
Nobody got hurt, right?
Reggie started with reminding all that Randle broke his leg his first game in his rookie year as a laker!
Oh the outrage we all so love!
Randle might feel a little different today when he woke up, but lets see if he plays and how he reacts.

Series is tied 1-1 and we heading home!
Oh, then there's that! LOL

BigDaddyG @ 4/19/2023 4:25 PM
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Nalod wrote:When fans know more than actual pro coaches react to bad loss.
So y'all get upity when Reggie Miller starts ranting while our team is getting beaten AFTER of course Randle goes down.

Maybe ask yourself why he kept them in? If anyone was injured, they were out. Josh was out.
Seemed to me he wanted them to stay intense and finish with a good feeling? Quick found something, RJ went down hill, and Randle had that nice steal and dunk.
He is ok. It can happen at anytime of the game.
FInd something to carry over into game three?
Find more instances were tape can help teach?
Does Reggie Miller (who was on the ESPN broadcast) know more than Nalod? Of course. He also is color commentating a blow out. Ever notice the Master of controversy in a bad game, our own JVG, who gets outraged during boring game with outcome already in hand. This seeps into our heads while watching.
That Reggie was bringing up DRose injury was a cheap shot in my mind.

Also, can we recount who Clev had on the court? Not like they pulled Allen did they? DM was still out there?
What is more common or "Polite", the victor bring in their subs or the losing team?
Jarett Allen, DM, Mobley could have hurt Themselves as well.


Keep them in the game so they can find their rhythm against deep bench reserves? I'm sorry, but I can't agree with this. That is what practice is for. Our guys should've been taken out the minute Cleveland took their starters out.

Literally, it's because you have never played pro sports or sports in general at a high enough level to have this perspective. Dude has been off his feet for 2-3 weeks and is still rounding into shape.

It takes a LONG time to get back the fine tuning a pro athlete is used to. And especially at full game speed, which normally does not occur during practice, you know, on your off day when you are supposed to actually get the rest you need.


I have actually played(made a practice squad) for a team on the college level. Dude can get those reps in practice instead of playing against scrubs in a game that's over.

I don't mean to be controversial here (and my voice in previous is a bit off from where I intended) but there is a planet sized gap between what you did and what pro's do and need. Like a galaxy of difference.

I don't know what else to add here. If people think playing an extra 5 or even 10 minutes at the end of the game is a reason to get worried that a player is doing something wrong, they should be worried that that player is in a Kemba-like situation more than anything.

It's a little stupid to me.

Oh, I know there is a world of difference. I've played against pros who made it the NFL an NBA and got destroyed. That said, I don't see how getting a few shots up against scrubs at the end of a game will make a difference. Make practice a bit tougher. I'm sure Obi, Sims and even Hart will come early or stay later for Jules to get his reps. Just because you stood in front of target and dodged a bullet doesn't mean it's a good idea to do it again. Take Jules out, tell him to rest up and prepare to run it back again tomorrow.

GustavBahler @ 4/19/2023 4:40 PM
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Nalod wrote:When fans know more than actual pro coaches react to bad loss.
So y'all get upity when Reggie Miller starts ranting while our team is getting beaten AFTER of course Randle goes down.

Maybe ask yourself why he kept them in? If anyone was injured, they were out. Josh was out.
Seemed to me he wanted them to stay intense and finish with a good feeling? Quick found something, RJ went down hill, and Randle had that nice steal and dunk.
He is ok. It can happen at anytime of the game.
FInd something to carry over into game three?
Find more instances were tape can help teach?
Does Reggie Miller (who was on the ESPN broadcast) know more than Nalod? Of course. He also is color commentating a blow out. Ever notice the Master of controversy in a bad game, our own JVG, who gets outraged during boring game with outcome already in hand. This seeps into our heads while watching.
That Reggie was bringing up DRose injury was a cheap shot in my mind.

Also, can we recount who Clev had on the court? Not like they pulled Allen did they? DM was still out there?
What is more common or "Polite", the victor bring in their subs or the losing team?
Jarett Allen, DM, Mobley could have hurt Themselves as well.


Keep them in the game so they can find their rhythm against deep bench reserves? I'm sorry, but I can't agree with this. That is what practice is for. Our guys should've been taken out the minute Cleveland took their starters out.

Literally, it's because you have never played pro sports or sports in general at a high enough level to have this perspective. Dude has been off his feet for 2-3 weeks and is still rounding into shape.

It takes a LONG time to get back the fine tuning a pro athlete is used to. And especially at full game speed, which normally does not occur during practice, you know, on your off day when you are supposed to actually get the rest you need.


I have actually played(made a practice squad) for a team on the college level. Dude can get those reps in practice instead of playing against scrubs in a game that's over.

I don't mean to be controversial here (and my voice in previous is a bit off from where I intended) but there is a planet sized gap between what you did and what pro's do and need. Like a galaxy of difference.

I don't know what else to add here. If people think playing an extra 5 or even 10 minutes at the end of the game is a reason to get worried that a player is doing something wrong, they should be worried that that player is in a Kemba-like situation more than anything.

It's a little stupid to me.

Some of the criticism has come from former pros covering the game. A lot of people were scratching their heads.

Its a seven game series, the Cavs arent interested in giving Jules a workout. They werent playing, which is why Thibs shouldnt have been coaching a practice game, during a playoff game

NYKMentality @ 4/19/2023 5:45 PM
Why did Cleveland's Coach play his Starters up 25+ Points?

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BigDaddyG @ 4/19/2023 6:31 PM
NYKMentality wrote:Why did Cleveland's Coach play his Starters up 25+ Points?

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Pardon my French, but f@#k about no mothereffin' Cleveland.

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