While I’m at it what teams not wearing blue & orange could use a shot blocking defensive anchor with butter for fingers, zero offensive game and moves like he’s 45? Plus he’s likable
Harden and Kyrie sign as UFA's in San Antonio.
I wonder how willing the Spurs would be to acquire Evan Fournier. He only has one gauranteed year left and they could use his services both on and off the court, now that they've got Victor Wembenyama. They are both Frenchmen and I think Fournier has the right personality to be a good mentor and ease Victor's transition into American culture having lived here for more than a decade. On the court, I think he can play a very similar role to the one Doug McDermott excelled at as a guy still capable of hitting 40% from deep. Fournier also has the added wrinkle of being a capable playmaker, particularly in a secondary pick-and-roll, which the Spurs lack at the moment.
I know there is some acrimony between both organizations that began during the Steve Mills era but doubt it should have any major impact in negotiations. I think Fournier, $5M cash and some 2nd round picks should get the deal done.
LivingLegend wrote:While I’m at it what teams not wearing blue & orange could use a shot blocking defensive anchor with butter for fingers, zero offensive game and moves like he’s 45? Plus he’s likable
Cavs would swap Allen for him 
NardDogNation wrote:I wonder how willing the Spurs would be to acquire Evan Fournier. He only has one gauranteed year left and they could use his services both on and off the court, now that they've got Victor Wembenyama. They are both Frenchmen and I think Fournier has the right personality to be a good mentor and ease Victor's transition into American culture having lived here for more than a decade. On the court, I think he can play a very similar role to the one Doug McDermott excelled at as a guy still capable of hitting 40% from deep. Fournier also has the added wrinkle of being a capable playmaker, particularly in a secondary pick-and-roll, which the Spurs lack at the moment.I know there is some acrimony between both organizations that began during the Steve Mills era but doubt it should have any major impact in negotiations. I think Fournier, $5M cash and some 2nd round picks should get the deal done.
I don't think we really need to dump him. They have a ton of cap space and need for vets. Im thinking EF is cap fodder as part of a big deal but perhaps he gets rerouted? In fact they can send us a second round pick!
Current MVP gonna cost a ton.
I don't know how we do it and not deplete.
Can't even do the "throw in IQ" cuz they have Maxey waxy pancake stacksie all ready.
We can try: Mitch/obi/EF/RJ and a shit ton of picks?
Switch Randle for RJ? Can say they get an allstar and all NBA in return? If so, we keep Obi?
There would be more moves. Not my job man.
Philly go a calling to POrtland, get scoot or Miller, Sharpe, and more picks. Lillard and Embiid is really quite nice. Resign Grant you have a nice trio. Sharpe is gonna be good.
Philly clean house. Maybe get somting via sign and trade from Rockets. They can sign harden out right but maybe want to move an asset and keep some space.
martin wrote:
There it is!
Embiid can ask to NY, only leverage he’d have is waive his trade kicker if he has one.
Otherwise Morey and Philly ownership might have a say to where he goes.
He’d go to highest bidder and I’d think Utah, Por and OKC might have a package for Sixers too!
Nurse in. Harden unknown. Media today (see UK’s Feed on page one) about knicks hoping Embiid asks out. One year left on CBA until the money starts getting weird promoting parity.
Are knicks well positioned? its core of JB, Randle, RJ are young and of value contracts. Brunson is an allstar to be. Randle is as well. RJ well discussed, no need to go about on that one.
If Embiid is to be obtained there exists a three year window. His contract is three years plus a player option at 58mm.
Cough if you need to. Its a big one to digest.
Philly will want to rape us as they should. They will want everything and the issue is whats left to win NOW.
He is the reigning MVP, 29 years old and will be 30 this time next year.
What do we know? Big fucker with a great game and big personality. I like him.
He missed two years due to a bad back and surgery.
He has knee issues and wears down the end of seasons. Given the money, any team with him will have a concentration of talent with him and less to pay others. Or as we know it “depth”.
ANy MVP gets hurt, his team is screwed.
He seems to be biologically older than his 29. No conspiracy to suspect about his age. Greg oden was too. Bodies break down?
He has had motivational issues in his past. Reality is its not an easy profession and we pedestrians can bark about “love of the game”, or “worth ethic” but few men have it. He has risen to the top of the world talent wise? He wanted that MVP award and might have sacrificed the team to get the individual award. Not blaming or shaming him. He was lessor by playoff time.
Question is is this who we want to push the chips in on?
This a starphuch or the final piece that gets us in the room were it happens. Gets us to top of east and into the finals.
As always, it depends on who is left. And its about fit.
Im qualified to ask the questions but not to answer them.
Morey is a different kind of dude. He has not overseen a rebuild has he? This dude wheels and deals like few can. His history does not lend itself to “The process”. Hiring Nurse as well.
Odds are Philly resigns Harden. Thats the logical odds on. If not, then it gets interesting there. Not seeing Embiid has a not trade clause and he has little leverage given the length of his contract. Philly can send him anywhere if so. Thus there is no discount he can force his way here.
Leon was Embiids agent. Morey don’t care about that. Its about what they get in return.
LivingLegend wrote:While I’m at it what teams not wearing blue & orange could use a shot blocking defensive anchor with butter for fingers, zero offensive game and moves like he’s 45? Plus he’s likable
I don't think Mitchell has butter fingers at all. His first few years his hands were great. I think the issue is that they never ever throw it to him anymore even for lobs so he's caught by surprise.
Chandler wrote:LivingLegend wrote:While I’m at it what teams not wearing blue & orange could use a shot blocking defensive anchor with butter for fingers, zero offensive game and moves like he’s 45? Plus he’s likable
I don't think Mitchell has butter fingers at all. His first few years his hands were great. I think the issue is that they never ever throw it to him anymore even for lobs so he's caught by surprise.
Come on Chandler - you can’t seriously believe Mitch has good hands.
He literally fumbles 50% of the balls thrown to him - add in fact he can’t score outside 1” or do anything outside of hand the ball,off on the perimeter and you have a legit NON option on offense.
LivingLegend wrote:Chandler wrote:LivingLegend wrote:While I’m at it what teams not wearing blue & orange could use a shot blocking defensive anchor with butter for fingers, zero offensive game and moves like he’s 45? Plus he’s likable
I don't think Mitchell has butter fingers at all. His first few years his hands were great. I think the issue is that they never ever throw it to him anymore even for lobs so he's caught by surprise.
Come on Chandler - you can’t seriously believe Mitch has good hands.
He literally fumbles 50% of the balls thrown to him - add in fact he can’t score outside 1” or do anything outside of hand the ball,off on the perimeter and you have a legit NON option on offense.
For me, I think Mitch has OK hands for a center. His lack of awareness of anticipating *getting* the ball is very low and contributes to the hands thing IMO
I would think at this point the notion of emptying the cupboard for a “star” would have faded. So you trade everyone and everything except Brunson for Emblid or whomever - does a team of Brunson, Emblid or whomever plus I don’t know - McBride,I hart, and a bunch of 10 day contracts get us further? Just seems ridiculous to me. And tell me what assets we get to keep in such a trade without daydreaming.
KnickDanger wrote:I would think at this point the notion of emptying the cupboard for a “star” would have faded. So you trade everyone and everything except Brunson for Emblid or whomever - does a team of Brunson, Emblid or whomever plus I don’t know - McBride,I hart, and a bunch of 10 day contracts get us further? Just seems ridiculous to me. And tell me what assets we get to keep in such a trade without daydreaming.
Right. That's why I think the Knicks will most likely make trades around the edges for the next year or so unless something utterly wild happens and becomes available
Knicks just had a huge internal development year that turned out well (especially and obviously with the addition of Brunson). Wouldn't be surprised of more of the same.
martin wrote:KnickDanger wrote:I would think at this point the notion of emptying the cupboard for a “star” would have faded. So you trade everyone and everything except Brunson for Emblid or whomever - does a team of Brunson, Emblid or whomever plus I don’t know - McBride,I hart, and a bunch of 10 day contracts get us further? Just seems ridiculous to me. And tell me what assets we get to keep in such a trade without daydreaming.
Right. That's why I think the Knicks will most likely make trades around the edges for the next year or so unless something utterly wild happens and becomes available
Knicks just had a huge internal development year that turned out well (especially and obviously with the addition of Brunson). Wouldn't be surprised of more of the same.
No need to go back to the quick fix philosophy which destroyed us for decades.
LivingLegend wrote:Chandler wrote:LivingLegend wrote:While I’m at it what teams not wearing blue & orange could use a shot blocking defensive anchor with butter for fingers, zero offensive game and moves like he’s 45? Plus he’s likable
I don't think Mitchell has butter fingers at all. His first few years his hands were great. I think the issue is that they never ever throw it to him anymore even for lobs so he's caught by surprise.
Come on Chandler - you can’t seriously believe Mitch has good hands.
He literally fumbles 50% of the balls thrown to him - add in fact he can’t score outside 1” or do anything outside of hand the ball,off on the perimeter and you have a legit NON option on offense.
I seriously think he at least had great hands. He used to catch everything lobbed at him. He was snagging rebounds and getting balls off floor
this past year, I'll grant, was different. Either it is an anticipation thing, or maybe he needs some Lasik surgery.
