Knicks · The 2023 off season Rumor Mill. (page 9)

Nalod @ 6/16/2023 5:19 PM
Would anyone here trade the 7 for RJ, and if so, who do you draft or obtain in his place?
Knixkik @ 6/16/2023 11:17 PM
Nalod wrote:Would anyone here trade the 7 for RJ, and if so, who do you draft or obtain in his place?

There’s no going backwards in a rebuild right now. Knicks have moved into win mode and moving RJ for anything less than a sure thing isn’t the move at this point.

Nalod @ 6/17/2023 12:30 AM
Knixkik wrote:
Nalod wrote:Would anyone here trade the 7 for RJ, and if so, who do you draft or obtain in his place?

There’s no going backwards in a rebuild right now. Knicks have moved into win mode and moving RJ for anything less than a sure thing isn’t the move at this point.

Was reacting that Indy trading the 7 for OG Anonuby. Isn't he worth more?

Alpha1971 @ 6/19/2023 8:02 AM
Nalod wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
Nalod wrote:Would anyone here trade the 7 for RJ, and if so, who do you draft or obtain in his place?

There’s no going backwards in a rebuild right now. Knicks have moved into win mode and moving RJ for anything less than a sure thing isn’t the move at this point.

Was reacting that Indy trading the 7 for OG Anonuby. Isn't he worth more?

They have to match salary no ? So Indy would be sending players too, if so which

Nalod @ 6/19/2023 10:39 AM
Alpha1971 wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
Nalod wrote:Would anyone here trade the 7 for RJ, and if so, who do you draft or obtain in his place?

There’s no going backwards in a rebuild right now. Knicks have moved into win mode and moving RJ for anything less than a sure thing isn’t the move at this point.

Was reacting that Indy trading the 7 for OG Anonuby. Isn't he worth more?

They have to match salary no ? So Indy would be sending players too, if so which

I have no idea. As you might imagine Im good with RJ going forward.
My guess is for this team to really move forward one of RJ, Randle, or Mitch won't be back next year.
But if the right deal is not there it won't just be to "Shake things up". This FO is extremely patient and has a lot of flex.

Also they don't have to sign IQ as he is restricted. Granted, he might surge costing more but cap flex is also valuable unto itself.
IQ is very valuable without a contract right now. We can extend him until first game. Then he is RFA. I like him, but you send him with EF, maybe Drose and you have a lot of salary moving with a very good young player. For whom? I don't know.

ccch @ 6/19/2023 12:23 PM
Id move RJ and JR and start getting some real BB players who can shoot. I see they made 1 move in the front office...maybe that's a start for making somebody accountable for the miserable roster we've had over the last decade.
martin @ 6/19/2023 12:58 PM
EwingsGlass @ 6/19/2023 1:03 PM
ccch wrote:Id move RJ and JR and start getting some real BB players who can shoot. I see they made 1 move in the front office...maybe that's a start for making somebody accountable for the miserable roster we've had over the last decade.

Possible you missed the last season and the post-season and are stuck in 2021?

KnickDanger @ 6/19/2023 1:34 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
ccch wrote:Id move RJ and JR and start getting some real BB players who can shoot. I see they made 1 move in the front office...maybe that's a start for making somebody accountable for the miserable roster we've had over the last decade.

Possible you missed the last season and the post-season and are stuck in 2021?


It has nothing to do with reason. It's about the inner narrative - aka the voices in the head.
gradyandrew @ 6/20/2023 12:46 AM
KnickDanger wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
ccch wrote:Id move RJ and JR and start getting some real BB players who can shoot. I see they made 1 move in the front office...maybe that's a start for making somebody accountable for the miserable roster we've had over the last decade.

Possible you missed the last season and the post-season and are stuck in 2021?


It has nothing to do with reason. It's about the inner narrative - aka the voices in the head.

Rings bro. It's been miserable for 50 years.

Jimbo5 @ 6/20/2023 4:50 AM
I saw the podcast of paul George with Randle, im curious what this current starting 5 for the knicks can do with a couple more years playing together. Randle's poor playoff performance can be explained by his two ankle sprains. We saw RJ finally getting into a groove in the playoffs. What can this knicks team become if they have last year's regular season Randle, playoff Barrett with Jalen? I think if you insert playoff RJ in last year's team thats could probably give the team 10more wins for the season.

I would not mind for the FO to make a semi-big trade that can still keep the big 3 maybe trade Obi so he can finally play and maybe Deuce plus 2 1st rounders for OG Anunoby? If thats even possible.

Mitch, Randle, OG, RJ, Jalen

Alpha1971 @ 6/20/2023 8:37 AM
Jimbo5 wrote:I saw the podcast of paul George with Randle, im curious what this current starting 5 for the knicks can do with a couple more years playing together. Randle's poor playoff performance can be explained by his two ankle sprains. We saw RJ finally getting into a groove in the playoffs. What can this knicks team become if they have last year's regular season Randle, playoff Barrett with Jalen? I think if you insert playoff RJ in last year's team thats could probably give the team 10more wins for the season.

I would not mind for the FO to make a semi-big trade that can still keep the big 3 maybe trade Obi so he can finally play and maybe Deuce plus 2 1st rounders for OG Anunoby? If thats even possible.

Mitch, Randle, OG, RJ, Jalen

If RJ and Hart get their 3 pt shooting to league average, and Grimes gets 15-20 shots, that means he gets some of RJs and Randal's, the team moves up a level. Just those three very possible improvements makes the Knicks way more versatile and capable offensively. Then you pick up a capable bench piece with the MLE or two and we have depth. Plus RJ that can shoot league average from 3 is more valuable in a trade scenario.

Nalod @ 6/20/2023 8:53 AM
Reading CP3 to knicks an option? As free agent or we trade EF/Drose for one year of him?
As back up?
We trading IQ then? I dig rumors but there are effects to such moves.
Not likely as his family rooted in LA.

IF Lavine is so appealing, why are Bulls trying to trade him? Does that contract become an albatross for us too? Of course it does.
With New CBA, super max contract players who are not super max players should be cheap.

KAT: Rumor floating he and his girlfriend are shopping for a place in Manhatten. Could be. Knick thing. A Net thing, or good for her to have a place for her career? Some guys own places in LA, some in NYC, some in Miami and don’t play there. KAT has lots of family in the area, it logical beyond the “CAA, Leon, Home, etc” thing. We forget KAT and THibs did not work once upon a time. They older and wiser now.

Nalod not object to these players but not a full retail prices. You add these guys to WIN NOW but not. Subtract from on court talent. If These teams want to dump them for their reasons, thats one thing. Minny and new ownership paid big for Rudy and have budding star in Edwards. They’d want talant in return. Lavine? Tell me why they want to trade Lavine?

Caseloads @ 6/20/2023 8:58 AM
Nalod wrote:Reading CP3 to knicks an option? As free agent or we trade EF/Drose for one year of him?
As back up?
We trading IQ then? I dig rumors but there are effects to such moves.
Not likely as his family rooted in LA.

IF Lavine is so appealing, why are Bulls trying to trade him? Does that contract become an albatross for us too? Of course it does.
With New CBA, super max contract players who are not super max players should be cheap.

KAT: Rumor floating he and his girlfriend are shopping for a place in Manhatten. Could be. Knick thing. A Net thing, or good for her to have a place for her career? Some guys own places in LA, some in NYC, some in Miami and don’t play there. KAT has lots of family in the area, it logical beyond the “CAA, Leon, Home, etc” thing. We forget KAT and THibs did not work once upon a time. They older and wiser now.

Nalod not object to these players but not a full retail prices. You add these guys to WIN NOW but not. Subtract from on court talent. If These teams want to dump them for their reasons, thats one thing. Minny and new ownership paid big for Rudy and have budding star in Edwards. They’d want talant in return. Lavine? Tell me why they want to trade Lavine?

I also thought d rose and ef for cp3

KnickDanger @ 6/20/2023 9:12 AM
gradyandrew wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
ccch wrote:Id move RJ and JR and start getting some real BB players who can shoot. I see they made 1 move in the front office...maybe that's a start for making somebody accountable for the miserable roster we've had over the last decade.

Possible you missed the last season and the post-season and are stuck in 2021?


It has nothing to do with reason. It's about the inner narrative - aka the voices in the head.

Rings bro. It's been miserable for 50 years.

If I am reading you correctly - are you really miserable with the build up of talent in the Rose era and wins into the second round of the playoffs this year? That’s the right of a fan I suppose. I’m hoping for more, but I think it is possible to enjoy the process.

martin @ 6/20/2023 11:06 AM
Caseloads wrote:
Nalod wrote:Reading CP3 to knicks an option? As free agent or we trade EF/Drose for one year of him?
As back up?
We trading IQ then? I dig rumors but there are effects to such moves.
Not likely as his family rooted in LA.

IF Lavine is so appealing, why are Bulls trying to trade him? Does that contract become an albatross for us too? Of course it does.
With New CBA, super max contract players who are not super max players should be cheap.

KAT: Rumor floating he and his girlfriend are shopping for a place in Manhatten. Could be. Knick thing. A Net thing, or good for her to have a place for her career? Some guys own places in LA, some in NYC, some in Miami and don’t play there. KAT has lots of family in the area, it logical beyond the “CAA, Leon, Home, etc” thing. We forget KAT and THibs did not work once upon a time. They older and wiser now.

Nalod not object to these players but not a full retail prices. You add these guys to WIN NOW but not. Subtract from on court talent. If These teams want to dump them for their reasons, thats one thing. Minny and new ownership paid big for Rudy and have budding star in Edwards. They’d want talant in return. Lavine? Tell me why they want to trade Lavine?

I also thought d rose and ef for cp3

Even in a vacuum, no one does this type of trade, cause then you have, you know, dead'ish weight contracts of DRose and Fournier on your cap

martin @ 6/20/2023 11:19 AM
martin @ 6/20/2023 11:30 AM
martin @ 6/20/2023 11:30 AM
Ha

Nalod @ 6/20/2023 11:59 AM
martin wrote:
Caseloads wrote:
Nalod wrote:Reading CP3 to knicks an option? As free agent or we trade EF/Drose for one year of him?
As back up?
We trading IQ then? I dig rumors but there are effects to such moves.
Not likely as his family rooted in LA.

IF Lavine is so appealing, why are Bulls trying to trade him? Does that contract become an albatross for us too? Of course it does.
With New CBA, super max contract players who are not super max players should be cheap.

KAT: Rumor floating he and his girlfriend are shopping for a place in Manhatten. Could be. Knick thing. A Net thing, or good for her to have a place for her career? Some guys own places in LA, some in NYC, some in Miami and don’t play there. KAT has lots of family in the area, it logical beyond the “CAA, Leon, Home, etc” thing. We forget KAT and THibs did not work once upon a time. They older and wiser now.

Nalod not object to these players but not a full retail prices. You add these guys to WIN NOW but not. Subtract from on court talent. If These teams want to dump them for their reasons, thats one thing. Minny and new ownership paid big for Rudy and have budding star in Edwards. They’d want talant in return. Lavine? Tell me why they want to trade Lavine?

I also thought d rose and ef for cp3

Even in a vacuum, no one does this type of trade, cause then you have, you know, dead'ish weight contracts of DRose and Fournier on your cap

can Knicks trade Drose NOW and then new team deny his team team option if its a June 30th thing? Then its one year of EF which at least he is a decent player to put out there?

EwingsGlass @ 6/20/2023 12:02 PM
gradyandrew wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
ccch wrote:Id move RJ and JR and start getting some real BB players who can shoot. I see they made 1 move in the front office...maybe that's a start for making somebody accountable for the miserable roster we've had over the last decade.

Possible you missed the last season and the post-season and are stuck in 2021?


It has nothing to do with reason. It's about the inner narrative - aka the voices in the head.

Rings bro. It's been miserable for 50 years.

I quite enjoyed the 90s.

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