Knicks · Knicks needs - sf with size and shooting and defense (page 1)

Caseloads @ 6/25/2023 7:26 AM
Cam reddish-type anyone?
Caseloads @ 6/25/2023 7:34 AM
Ideally someone who can swing between the 3 and 4 as we have enough 2/3 undersized swing players
Caseloads @ 6/25/2023 7:38 AM
A kris Murray would have been great

A Taylor Hendricks would have worked well, he was gone at 9

The second tier ended around 9/10 in the draft with picks 11 to about 25 even and then 26 to 45 even

gradyandrew @ 6/25/2023 7:49 AM
Caseloads wrote:Ideally someone who can swing between the 3 and 4 as we have enough 2/3 undersized swing players

Are you giving up on RJ already? Granted the advanced stats hate him but I still think he's got the potential to do it all. 20+ points per game vs Miami in the playoffs at age 22.

Philc1 @ 6/25/2023 8:12 AM
Yuta Watanabe
Caseloads @ 6/25/2023 8:21 AM
gradyandrew wrote:
Caseloads wrote:Ideally someone who can swing between the 3 and 4 as we have enough 2/3 undersized swing players

Are you giving up on RJ already? Granted the advanced stats hate him but I still think he's got the potential to do it all. 20+ points per game vs Miami in the playoffs at age 22.

Not giving up on RJ

He needs better coaching / decision making

Huge huge fan of RJ. Likely the best pick from his draft class - between Zion’s unavailability and Ja’s nonsense, RJ is solid. He needs to become more reliable, power to the goal more, less far away jacked up jumpers

Nalod @ 6/25/2023 10:27 AM
Philc1 wrote:Yuta Watanabe

You do Want to Be keep repeating this.

ToddTT @ 6/25/2023 10:29 AM
Nalod wrote:
Philc1 wrote:Yuta Watanabe

You do Want to Be keep repeating this.

Jar Jar has entered the conversation.

martin @ 6/25/2023 10:30 AM
ToddTT wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Philc1 wrote:Yuta Watanabe

You do Want to Be keep repeating this.

Jar Jar has entered the conversation.

It’s a good thing, raised the iq level a lot

Knixkik @ 6/25/2023 11:27 AM
Caseloads wrote:Cam reddish-type anyone?

Problem is reddish isn’t the prototype because he couldn’t shoot and was only engaged defensively sometimes. The guy is Paul George but obviously you have to take the risks with him.

Nalod @ 6/25/2023 12:55 PM
ToddTT wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Philc1 wrote:Yuta Watanabe

You do Want to Be keep repeating this.

Jar Jar has entered the conversation.


Yuta=You do
Wantabe= Want to be

ToddTT @ 6/25/2023 1:17 PM
Nalod wrote:
ToddTT wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Philc1 wrote:Yuta Watanabe

You do Want to Be keep repeating this.

Jar Jar has entered the conversation.


Yuta=You do
Wantabe= Want to be

Dammit! Where was this Rosetta Stone 20 something years ago?!?

Alpha1971 @ 6/25/2023 1:41 PM
Philc1 wrote:Yuta Watanabe

Bingo

Alpha1971 @ 6/25/2023 1:46 PM
https://theleadsm.com/yuta-watanabe-is-everything-the-kings-want/
Vmart @ 6/25/2023 4:12 PM
Let Obi play SF. If Denver can let Michael Porter Jr. play SF and he isn’t as athletic as Obi why not let him be our SF.
Caseloads @ 6/25/2023 4:25 PM
Vmart wrote:Let Obi play SF. If Denver can let Michael Porter Jr. play SF and he isn’t as athletic as Obi why not let him be our SF.

Exactly. He hangs out at the 3 pt line anyway

Alpha1971 @ 6/25/2023 5:10 PM
Vmart wrote:Let Obi play SF. If Denver can let Michael Porter Jr. play SF and he isn’t as athletic as Obi why not let him be our SF.

Maybe Rose can tell Thibs that

HofstraBBall @ 6/25/2023 5:48 PM
Alpha1971 wrote:
Vmart wrote:Let Obi play SF. If Denver can let Michael Porter Jr. play SF and he isn’t as athletic as Obi why not let him be our SF.

Maybe Rose can tell Thibs that

The issue is Obi's ability to move laterally on defense. Despite his athleticism, he is not a good defender. Thibs knows that already quite well.

jskinny35 @ 6/25/2023 11:15 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
Vmart wrote:Let Obi play SF. If Denver can let Michael Porter Jr. play SF and he isn’t as athletic as Obi why not let him be our SF.

Maybe Rose can tell Thibs that

The issue is Obi's ability to move laterally on defense. Despite his athleticism, he is not a good defender. Thibs knows that already quite well.

I get that his lateral mobility is an issue but still think he would perform better at the 3 spot since most PF's handle, face up, etc... Obi's lack of strength and rebounding would be less of an issue at the 3. Obi's strength to leak out after guarding on the perimeter is a better alternative vs leaking out when he's relied on to be a 2nd rebounding option... it could also offer us some easy baskets which we struggle with. Definitely not perfect but trying to maximize what he could offer us with play time - while still utilizing Randle and his strengths. RJ's defense at the 3 this year wasn't great btw...

Vmart @ 6/26/2023 1:02 PM
jskinny35 wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
Vmart wrote:Let Obi play SF. If Denver can let Michael Porter Jr. play SF and he isn’t as athletic as Obi why not let him be our SF.

Maybe Rose can tell Thibs that

The issue is Obi's ability to move laterally on defense. Despite his athleticism, he is not a good defender. Thibs knows that already quite well.

I get that his lateral mobility is an issue but still think he would perform better at the 3 spot since most PF's handle, face up, etc... Obi's lack of strength and rebounding would be less of an issue at the 3. Obi's strength to leak out after guarding on the perimeter is a better alternative vs leaking out when he's relied on to be a 2nd rebounding option... it could also offer us some easy baskets which we struggle with. Definitely not perfect but trying to maximize what he could offer us with play time - while still utilizing Randle and his strengths. RJ's defense at the 3 this year wasn't great btw...

I know this is a different era. But didn’t Riley take a center Charles Smith and play him at SF. I don’t buy the lateral movement argument because everyone I the NBA is suspect moving laterally.

martin @ 6/26/2023 1:20 PM
Vmart wrote:
jskinny35 wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
Vmart wrote:Let Obi play SF. If Denver can let Michael Porter Jr. play SF and he isn’t as athletic as Obi why not let him be our SF.

Maybe Rose can tell Thibs that

The issue is Obi's ability to move laterally on defense. Despite his athleticism, he is not a good defender. Thibs knows that already quite well.

I get that his lateral mobility is an issue but still think he would perform better at the 3 spot since most PF's handle, face up, etc... Obi's lack of strength and rebounding would be less of an issue at the 3. Obi's strength to leak out after guarding on the perimeter is a better alternative vs leaking out when he's relied on to be a 2nd rebounding option... it could also offer us some easy baskets which we struggle with. Definitely not perfect but trying to maximize what he could offer us with play time - while still utilizing Randle and his strengths. RJ's defense at the 3 this year wasn't great btw...

I know this is a different era. But didn’t Riley take a center Charles Smith and play him at SF. I don’t buy the lateral movement argument because everyone I the NBA is suspect moving laterally.

Lateral movement is a key aspect of a player in pretty much every sport. In fact, it is a gigantic separator type talent/skill.

Believe what you want to though.

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